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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 12:11 pm
Well, I've been playing the trumpet for 3 years and i've had a silver trumpet for 2 1/3 years.. but i want to know about valve oil for it.
I've used regular valve oil for my silver trumpet but when i met up with other silver trumpet players they all use a different kind than me so i was wondering if there are certain valve oils that should be used for a silver trumpet?
I just ran out of vavle oil and i need to buy some so i want to buy whats best for my trumpet. domokun
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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 1:51 pm
Well when I was in high school (just a few years back.) We all just used whatever valve oil somebody else had. Nobody was really picky about it...
But I don't really know, maybe we should have been. (or should I say the others, because I didn't care about mine. XD)
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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 3:45 pm
The "silver" part of a trumpet refers to (usually) only your finish. I see where people think a silver trumpet is higher quality and what-not, but this streams off how most people buy more expensive trumpet with silver finish as it improves sound quality...somehow neutral . What you should be more concerned with if the valves themselves. While valve types (just looking at piston valves here) themselves differ, they usually don't require different types of oil. However, there are petroleum and synthetic (non-petroleum based) oils. I mostly use petroleum based and don't know much about the latter.
Pretty much every trumpet player uses different oil. There is no "amazing-best oil ever made" out there. You should be alright with either Al Cass, Zaja, or any thing along that line. Just don't use Blue Juice. In my experience it just plain gunks up a trumpet. Just generic clear oil could be used, but I've found it less that satisfactory. Try different types and find out which you (and your trumpet cool ) prefer. (Btw, when switching valve oil, you may want to wipe the old oil off your valves and casings. )
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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 5:41 pm
[Aelfwyn] The "silver" part of a trumpet refers to (usually) only your finish. I see where people think a silver trumpet is higher quality and what-not, but this streams off how most people buy more expensive trumpet with silver finish as it improves sound quality...somehow neutral . What you should be more concerned with if the valves themselves. While valve types (just looking at piston valves here) themselves differ, they usually don't require different types of oil. However, there are petroleum and synthetic (non-petroleum based) oils. I mostly use petroleum based and don't know much about the latter.
Pretty much every trumpet player uses different oil. There is no "amazing-best oil ever made" out there. You should be alright with either Al Cass, Zaja, or any thing along that line. Just don't use Blue Juice. In my experience it just plain gunks up a trumpet. Just generic clear oil could be used, but I've found it less that satisfactory. Try different types and find out which you (and your trumpet cool ) prefer. (Btw, when switching valve oil, you may want to wipe the old oil off your valves and casings. )
thanks for the help^^ I was wondering a bit about the blue juice since alot of people used it.. thanks for the info. Well yeah it's usually just finish.. but silver trumpets need alot more maintenance(sp?). it doesn't improve sound quality at all its just for looks really. mrgreen
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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 7:15 pm
Actually, my experience leads me to believe that it depends on the way the valves are made themselves. Each trumpet brand has a different style in which they are made. This means that each trumpet actually has a type of oil that works best for it. Take the Monique I have, it surprisingly works really well with Blue Juice without gunking (It's one of the few trumpet brands that work with Blue Juice and it has been months since my last oil change). From what I understand, Yamaha and Blue Juice can't mix because the valves will stick after a few times of playing and gunking. I suggest you speak to those who have the same/similar trumpet to your own to get a better understanding of which oil to use.
Also, I agree with Aelfwyn. Wipe out the old oil before putting the new oil. However, there is a process in which you can mix oils in certain ratios to create a unique oil just for you. My director mixed Al Cass, Yamaha oil, and another oil and created an oil that lasted nearly 14 months before re-applying the oil again for a Yamaha. If you feel like experimenting and taking the time to do it, feel free to try it. Otherwise, speak to others.
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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 8:58 pm
Al Cass fast is just about the best oil you'll ever use I only have to oil about once every 2 weeks or so; its amazing
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Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 4:08 pm
[Aelfwyn] The "silver" part of a trumpet refers to (usually) only your finish. I see where people think a silver trumpet is higher quality and what-not, but this streams off how most people buy more expensive trumpet with silver finish as it improves sound quality...somehow neutral . What you should be more concerned with if the valves themselves. While valve types (just looking at piston valves here) themselves differ, they usually don't require different types of oil. However, there are petroleum and synthetic (non-petroleum based) oils. I mostly use petroleum based and don't know much about the latter.
Pretty much every trumpet player uses different oil. There is no "amazing-best oil ever made" out there. You should be alright with either Al Cass, Zaja, or any thing along that line. Just don't use Blue Juice. In my experience it just plain gunks up a trumpet. Just generic clear oil could be used, but I've found it less that satisfactory. Try different types and find out which you (and your trumpet cool ) prefer. (Btw, when switching valve oil, you may want to wipe the old oil off your valves and casings. )
Im sorry but I'd have to disagree with you here....if gets a new trumpet and the FIRST oil they apply is a clear one then they should NEVER apply a colored one such as Blue Juice....however if one were to apply Blue Juice it is one of the best oils out there, except for maybe FAST....(thats the brand name it has a little rocket on it...) plus you could also use it on your slides, it works better then slide grease and keeps them moving longer and faster...that is what I'd recomend
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 9:07 am
dororo-sensei [Aelfwyn] The "silver" part of a trumpet refers to (usually) only your finish. I see where people think a silver trumpet is higher quality and what-not, but this streams off how most people buy more expensive trumpet with silver finish as it improves sound quality...somehow neutral . What you should be more concerned with if the valves themselves. While valve types (just looking at piston valves here) themselves differ, they usually don't require different types of oil. However, there are petroleum and synthetic (non-petroleum based) oils. I mostly use petroleum based and don't know much about the latter.
Pretty much every trumpet player uses different oil. There is no "amazing-best oil ever made" out there. You should be alright with either Al Cass, Zaja, or any thing along that line. Just don't use Blue Juice. In my experience it just plain gunks up a trumpet. Just generic clear oil could be used, but I've found it less that satisfactory. Try different types and find out which you (and your trumpet cool ) prefer. (Btw, when switching valve oil, you may want to wipe the old oil off your valves and casings. )
Im sorry but I'd have to disagree with you here....if gets a new trumpet and the FIRST oil they apply is a clear one then they should NEVER apply a colored one such as Blue Juice....however if one were to apply Blue Juice it is one of the best oils out there, except for maybe FAST....(thats the brand name it has a little rocket on it...) plus you could also use it on your slides, it works better then slide grease and keeps them moving longer and faster...that is what I'd recomend Eh; blue juice can freeze up your valves if theres any residue from past oil left and it gunks it up pretty bad but yeah Al Cass Fast is by far the best brand of Valve/Slide oil out there
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