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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 7:44 pm
Before anyone reads this thread I would like you to read this little red paragraph. I already see conflict arising from this thread. I do feel however, it is a pertinent, and high-content discussion involving wicca. It is by no means meant to offend any single one of you, in any way, shape or form.
I don't think anyone can argue that many wiccans dress, and present themselves in a certain pin-pointable way. Often times they have long dark hair, darker close with sureal fantasy accesories. I often see tacky (in my opinion) Praise the goddess, or so mote it be quotes on Tee's, bumper stickers, and necklaces.
I'm not asking you if you dress like THIS. I'm asking if you dress a certain way, ANY WAY, because you are a wiccan.
Personally I'm a cheery person, and LOVE fashion so I tend to stick with mainstream fashion, colorfull clothing. Wicca has little effect in the way I dress and thats how I think it should be.
Wicca, to me, is deeper then what we wear.
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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 8:54 pm
Errr....no.
Wicca doesn't have anything to do with what I wear, and vice versa. The way that I dress usually reflects my inner interests and personality, I guess. I like flowy, sort of "hippyish" things with earthy colors, but I'm into other things as well. I also like purple and darker colors, as well as skirts and dresses. Sometimes I wear shirts with fairies on them. Usually I dress fairly ordinary or laid back. I like pretty jewelry and hats, but nothing tacky. I don't dye my hair or cut it and it goes down to my butt. It's blond. People tell me I look like a hippy/fairy/stoner/something else xD I hope that doesn't sound cliche or fall into the category you're talking about, or that I'm somehow contributing towards this problem.
Still, my style doesn't have anything to do with Wicca. I wear a pentacle on some occasions, and I also have a ring with a moon and two triquetras. But it's not for fashion. That's as far as that goes.
When it comes down to it, I wear what I feel like. Wicca isn't a fashion statement :/ I don't see how this is a high-content discussion. I just think that the way people dress can sometimes reflect their interests and attitude towards life. Usually it's just what's comfortable for them.
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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 9:30 pm
There are only 2 things that come to mind that I started doing when I became more earth-concience/leading to becoming Wiccan. And more comfortable with myself too- I grew up smile .
I stopped wearing make-up. Occasionally I'll brush on some lipstick or even mascara if its something special, but for the most part I go natural. Its better for me & my skin, the enviroment and my wallet too!
My wardrobe has also gotten to be more comfortable, and neutral colors. Sure I have a few red & black things, a dress or 2 etc. But most of my clothes are jeans, and loose nice tops. I'm more about comfort than style now.
Oh and I do wear a medium sized silver pentacle necklace. But thats all that would identify me. I don't believe in hiding my beliefs, but at the same time I dont shout them either.
I dont know if this is a result of maturing, marriage or becoming Wiccan. Its probably a mix of all 3. I think the people you are seeing/refering to may be gothic, or people who are more into harry potter type magic than Wicca itself.
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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 9:37 pm
yeah, I think it's good to use clothes with natural fabric (that aren't from foreign child labor :/ ), and to donate ones you don't wear anymore. I try to wear makeup with natural ingredients. Burts Bees is good as well as mineral stuff. whee
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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 9:47 pm
Being Wiccan effects my choice of dress very little. I might be drawn to certain images though on tee-shirts, like the celtic tree of life. Or I might buy a shirt that is from a "green" company if its available. Otherwise it doesn't really effect anything.
I know what you're talking about though. A lot of younger goth kids seem attracted to the craft because it seems counter-cultural, which has caused many people to associate Wiccans with either the hippy or goth stereotype. Which is unfortunate. While I see some of these stereotypes exist for a reason, its still dangerous to lump a group of people under one.
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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 9:48 pm
Is the Burts Bees stuff really good? I was tempted to buy it once. I may have to next time there is a sale now! lol
Oh and yes, that is another thing I do now- even if its just a sack or 2, I donate anything that can be used by someone else rather than throwing it out. And I reuse alot of things myself too.
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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 10:05 pm
Well, I haven't used a lot of their makeup to be honest. I like some of their skin products (lotions, soaps, etc) if you're into that kind of thing. Their lip balm is always good, they have some colored lip things too. Beyond that I don't know.
Lucky me, I live down the road from a mission, so there's always a good opportunity to donate things (not just clothes)
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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 10:19 pm
When I was 13, I dressed how I wanted to. It was something of a mix of goth/rocker/hippie, believe it or not. I wore tyedye dresses with black leggings and combat boots. I wore a lot of jewelry, mainly because I liked it. It was when I was 13 that I decided I wanted to follow the path of Wicca.
I'm 30 now. I have some 'airy-fairy-hippie' clothes, but not all that many. They get drug out on occasion when I'm feeling frisky and carefree. Mainly, I dress for comfort. I buy 'organic' cotton clothes when I can (they're softer), I don't own a million pairs of shoes (pleather anyone? it'll rot in a landfill for billions of years...), and I don't think I need to wear clothes from the Renaissance Festival to tool around in every-day wear. I don't wear make-up, but it's out of comfort and convience - every now and then when I dress up, I do, referring to it as my 'War Paint'. I wear my wedding band and a celtic knotwork star pendant (which looks like a pentacle, because it has five points, but each point is a tri-knot and the knots surround a moonstone), and sometimes I pick and choose my everyday wear colors for magickal workings.
Some of the most down-to-earth BTWs and American Wiccans I've seen don't even wear jewelry to 'mark' themselves. I'm an observant creature, and I'll notice someone's jewelry/tattoos/etc. off the bat and try to strike up conversation about it to figure out what kind of person they are and if they are a spiritual creature.
*shrug*
Having a 'pagan' lifestyle shouldn't affect your wardrobe dramatically. Adding a color or amulet for power should be about the only change, and that's if you want added power to whatever you're doing.
rolleyes Wicca's a lifestyle. Not a fashion statement. twisted
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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:14 pm
Agreed with pretty much all above. The only thing remotely wiccan about my dress is that I always wear a triskele and a pentacle stud in each ear -- mostly because they're attractive, they're comfortable, and I'm too lazy to change them, rather than insisting on wearing them 'coz they're wiccan.
My family always goes through their wardrobes at the start of summer & winter and donates any clothes that don't fit anymore to the salvation army, and I usually just wear jeans and a t-shirt. smile
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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 6:55 am
I wear mainly jeans and t-shirts. I have a beautiful pendant made out of semi-precious stones that I wear a lot. I also sometimes wear my lovely Ouroboros pentacle.
When I'm in the mood, I tend to dress quite gothy.
I also like to customize my clothes with song lyrics, latin phrases or lacings. I like having clothes that nobody has.
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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 8:59 am
I feel the urge to really not dress gothy just to prove we're not all a fashion statement. I know that's almost as bad, but it's what I'm like.
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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 10:53 am
i think that the 'goth' look doesn't come about nessecarily for wiccans as a need to dress in that manner, but there are a lot that do not understand the depth of some of the concepts that they are studying, and it becomes an unconscious manifestation.
those that study 'magick-users' or 'shamanistic type' faiths realize that those who follow those kinds of paths are usually peripherial in general society - they're kind of outcasts. i think that the clothes are another self-alienation tool that a lot of people do not come to realize.
don't kid yourself, folks. we don't think the same as 'normal' people. our grasp of the abstract is more advanced. if you don't believe me, talk to anyone who seems religious. you'll find that about 9 out of 10 of them are regurgitating what they learned. and only 1 of 10 actually is a very deeply spiritual person.
maybe the numbers aren't that bad, but you get the idea.
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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 11:23 am
It doesn't really affect me. I dress however i want to, and I lready have dark hair, lol.
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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 1:10 pm
When I was a teenager (and also not quite aware of my beliefs - I knew there was something off with me being a Christian, I didn't feel right as one) I used to dress because of others. i would *always* wear jeans and a tshirt, usually black, and was trying to melt away inside the walls to not be seen or noticed... I was always bullied because I was "the ever-nice girl who never talks back no matter what we do to her" so... Let's just say teenagers are a**holes to me and teenagerhood was Hell.
Then I grew up.
Eventually, I allowed myself the right to believe what felt right to me, and also allowed myself to start not giving a damn what others thought of me. Then i started wearing clothes that I actually like.
I've always likes long dresses or skirts (but Goddess forbid, I never dared wear one when I was younger!). So now, I practically always wear ankle-length skirts with random tops, I don't wear tshirts anymore. But I will wear corsets sometimes.
And it has nothing to do, for me, with me being a wicca or otherwise. I always drew, even when I was a kid, princesses or druidesses or characters in general with long gowns. Now I wear them. (Ok, not as fancy as princesses, but still).
The only thing I wear that can identify myself as a wiccan, that I didn't wear before, until I "came out of the broom closet", is my pentacle with a triplemoon.
Like someone pointed out, I think people who dress all goth-like and it is obvious in their attitude that they are just somehow playing a role, are the ones who claim themselves witches or wiccan just to show off "look, I am different, I am cooler than you, I am mysterious and so misunderstood" rather than the real wiccans.
I am not saying that real wiccans or witches can't enjoy the gothic fashion, of course some do, it all depends with one's personality.
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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 6:44 pm
I think the stereotype of witches dressing in a gothic fashion is something that is really just that - a stereotype that has no place in the actual world of Wicca. Now I know that black is great for retaining energy if you want that. But for me, fashion is something that should be seperate from Wicca. The only thing I wear that announces that I'm a Wiccan is my pentacle ring. Other then that I generally wear very cute, bright colored clothes. I love dresses and skirts which might be considered a bit old fashioned, but that's just my preference. If I were to ever let my religion influence my dress, it would be with a t-shirt that says "Born Again Wiccan."
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