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I got level 30 and the second thing i got was ninja... but i dont know what to sub.... Iv'e been subbing theif, but is that good, or is there one thats better?

I think NIN is a great job. It's a great tank, especially if you're a thief. It's a great sub job, one of the best for rangers and thieves, as it allows them to be pullers without coming back to the party half dead, or worse (I've died on long pulls XD Flee isn't always up to save you.) Warriors also are excellent with ninja subbed. ^^

The game did not intend NIN to be a tank, but... that is the current lifestyle of a ninja in the game to date. It's a bit tricky when you only have utsusemi:ichi to work with, the first blink spell ninjas get, but once you get the second one (level 37) you can tank well. So...you're really expected to sub warrior. When I first started playing I wanted to be THIEF/NIN and NIN/THIEF...but then quickly saw it just wouldn't work out the way ninjas are currently seen in the game-- as tanks. If you're planning to use it as a sub though...especially for a thief, you can probably get away with having thief subbed until level 20 or so. Fair warning though-- people will invite you to be their tank, not a melee.

People will say it is a diffucult class to play because it takes a lot of money, and a lot of effort. By effort, I mean all the ridiculous things you will have to do in order to get Norg fame to get your spells (unless you cop out and buy them all). By expensive...ninja magic requires tools, and so you are constantly buying them. These tools require goldsmithing, woodworking and other craft skill to make, and so can have a hefty price tag. Shihei, the tool used to cast your blink spell, is currently 6500 G/stack on my server. This is because of holiday inflation...it's usually 4500G...but still. You should always have 2-3 stacks of that tool too. Aside from tool costs... NIN gear is evasion gear, and evasion gear is PRICEY. You can get buy with some of it, until higher levels, but again if you work hard it is not impossible.

If you don't have a headache yet... play NIN the early levels and see how you like the class. You don't have to start the class as an uber tank/uber rich person. You could easily level it to 10, which is when you get dual-wield, to see how you like playing other jobs with it subbed. As you level your 30+ job more, you will probably party with more and more ninjas...^^ You will get to see how they are played, what they can do.. and decide if you'd like to take the job that far.

And Tiggy... eek You should play ninja for yourself and see what all the hype is about. They don't really get much bragging rights on my server, aside from some people preferring them to Paladins (this happens only because there's a lot of LAZY paladins on my server who don't spend the time/money to play their job. Whereas, ninja is forced to spend the time and money to play their job...at least that's how I see it.) If there's any class I have a negative view towards it's Dark Knight, and only because there are so many cocky DRK players...so nothing about the job specifically. Again, I suggest you try playing the job before you pass judgement on it. It's a great sub, if not a main class to play. surprised

well on bismark it is THE job to sub for warrior it seems, other wise you get bad mouthed. they go like well look at all the wars at later lvls your hurting your pt chances by "not" subbing nin, anyother sub sucks. I always get the speech that nin is the best its uber blah blah blah an that i should sub it yadda yadda. i tell em NO! i like mnk, it suits me i like the traits an abilities it gives me, im not gonna pour myself into the so called mold that they think a war -should- be. I rather enjoy my job as is an not be talked down an/or into subbing nin cause everyone says so. Dont mean to make that sound so harsh or rude...its just ive heard the speech so many times...it just gets on my nerves.... sweatdrop gonk

other jobs such as drg an drk get talked down form DD's on bismarck too...

I might try nin but im not going to make it my war's sub. sad

...No, just no.

look, your third strike...

so, Mr. Mold.

why is it a tanking job? because it gets Utsusemi?
if you read the Desc of the job, it mentions nothing about tanking, Ninja was designed to be a debuffer, and a mild DD with Shurikens, and their Dual Weild Trait, and maybe a Ranger, Theif Sub later on.

people like -you- molded into a Tanking job, by latching onto it's Blink abilities, which make a ninja ::Gasp:: harder to hit...i mean, that's what any ninja does right? they become harder to hit, right?

You all are either low level, inexperienced players - or just plain newbs.

nin is a tank.

ALWAYS sub war for nin - unless you are mentally slow

No, thf or rng or any other sub for that matter is acceptable

sa/ta with a nin is pathetic, NINJAS DONT DEAL DAMAGE AND SA/TA WONT HELP

Okay...With the WAR/NIN and NIN/WAR part, that's up to the player. You can be a tank or you can be a DD. That's up to how your equipment is for the most part. If you want to go DD, say so in your search comment. If you want to tank, then also say so in your search comment. It's up to you whether you want to use NIN as a sub or main to tank or not.

Now for the sub, work with THF if you can. If your ranged is okay, then you can do the pulling with the aid of the Stealth job trait and THF for the Evasion bonus to dodge some hits when you pull. You could even sub RNG to help with your ranged even more. When I was lvling my THF in Kazham, there was a NIN/RNG in the party who did a great job with his combo and debuffed the mobs he pulled.

If you have WAR as your sub, then you can do what I stated above with the search comment whether you want to waste a bit more gil on more Shihei to keep your Utsusemi up or not and just worry about the dmg you wish to do.

That's about all I can say now. Hope this helps.

thank you two for a more friendly advice given smile

Briann lil harsh but good points..

As for mr dark knight...ya...so let me get this straight. if we dont have all our AF peices an have a slight different opinon about a job we all are noobs? wow harsh lable you put on us.