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So my friends and I pitched in and got the core books for 4th edition. I browsed through the books during the preveiws of the new Hulk movie (Kick a** movie, BTW) and in the dark car ride home. Then I got to study what I could for a few hours before they wanted to try to make characters.

My god, I swear to you, character creation has never gone so smoothly for my group. And they knew nothing about the system besides what I told them! Then we got playing it. The combat was soooo smooth, so fast, I was able to do 5 encounters that night with them still doing role playing.

They removed multiple attacks in a round, which pissed off some of my players, but they were quickly quelled when I told them how much HP they have and about the interesting EXP system. They kicked he EXP back down to a flat amount. No CRs or anything. You're just given a number to devide amongst your PCs that don't die.

I'm still working through the kinks of figuring out some of the other rules, but the book is so easy to get through, we have little problem with that.

Anyways, this is mostly just my take on the game. Those without the book and having questions, talk back to me ^_^

God, if they did a Thor movie, that would be beautiful. I love the little jokes here and there they did, like the purple pants. You should have been in the theater when hehad said "Hulk smash!" Everyone was stood up and cheered! XD Can anyone else agree that there wasn't a first Hulk movie?

Yeah, when I first looked at the preveiws and such, I was perplexed. I hardly understood anything. What did they do to HD? Do we get multiple attacks? What the hell is Passive Insight? What did they do to the spell system? So on and so forth. It all makes since after the browsing.
*Hugs his books*
So...so much simplier...

It's just something that our circle of friends does. To us, there was no first Hulk movie. It flopped like a fish on water for all of us. I'm glad it never did make it to video/DVD

It may have flopped like a fish, but the special effects for the final battle were pretty damn awesome...

They thought that there was too fine a line between fighter and barbarian, so they kept fighter and got rid of barbarian.

As far as races go, they also got rid of half-orc and gnome, but added Eladrin and Tiefling. I'm sorry, but an Eladrin is basically an elf but has teleport at will (Eladrin Rogue? Broken?), and a Teifling is an evil aligned character. They snuffed gnome and put em in the monster manual and didn't even give a section for gnomes as player characters. That kinda pissed me off. No, I'm not comparing, I'm just noticing that they tried to do one thing, but ended up doing something else...and failed.


And yes, I do have to say that even for me, its D&D for Dummies. I'll give it the positive that its perfect for younger brand new players, but thats about it. The older brand new players and the older players will most likely stick with 3.5.

Honestly, 4.0 reminds me of pokemon or yugioh. gonk

-_- Yeah, the races are a little rediculous. Gnomes ARE still a playable race and all, but the fact that you have to look in the way back of the Monster Manual is kinda a downer.

They don't have 6 different elves though. That's just in 3.5. Eladrin are an elder race of elves or something. Been in existance long before the elves have.

Teiflings are awesome though, so I have no complaints for them. And the teleport isn't THAT horrid. They get to use it, what, once per encounter? Most of the other races get something that's almost as good as that, if not better in their own way.

I was referring to the 4th Edition one. They pretty much reduced it to the Eladrin, the ancient, otherworldly elves, and the Elves themselves. The 4th edition elf represents the wild elf. They have the Drow in there still of coarse, but they don't give off any pre-generated stat blocks. They're in the way back with Gnomes and Minotaurs.

Man, it's weird.

Some of friends here love 4th edition.

Others just b***h and moan about it up and down. Yet they still play.