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 Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 10:10 am
Okay, first : I live in France, not the US. This guy at my school is really REALLY Catholic, and had the attitude that 1) all gays go to hell, 2) all soldiers who fight for a non-Christian nation (like France (less than half of all Frenchmen are Christian) go to hell. Being a gay army cadet, I was pissed. I tried ignoring him, but after school the other day he opened his mouth a little too wide. Now he has a busted lip and a possibly broken nose. So, my question is: is it unchristian (I'm Unitarian) to start a fight when HIGHLY provoked, as I did?
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Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:04 am
According to the bible your not suppose to strike even when they hit you first, so yes. Personally I don't blame you though. But let me give some advice, next time he opens his mouth, remember who YOU are and be proud of it. Words can be powerful, and personally I didn't like either comment, then again I don't approve of any *Blank* will send you to hell rants. I know both subjects are very VERY touchy and I have a friend in Irag now. I don't take too kindly to people bashing my military here. The government can go to hell, but I think everyone needs to show respect to their troops.
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Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:06 am
Valley of the Kings Okay, first : I live in France, not the US. This guy at my school is really REALLY Catholic, and had the attitude that 1) all gays go to hell, 2) all soldiers who fight for a non-Christian nation (like France (less than half of all Frenchmen are Christian) go to hell. Being a gay army cadet, I was pissed. I tried ignoring him, but after school the other day he opened his mouth a little too wide. Now he has a busted lip and a possibly broken nose. So, my question is: is it unchristian (I'm Unitarian) to start a fight when HIGHLY provoked, as I did? i see no issue with it. "if someone smiteth you on the left cheek SMASH him on his right" although you may want to point out that it's anyone who fights for an unchristian cause as (aside from the Vatican) there are no truly christian nations anymore. Tu est Freancais? ton anglais est completement parfait.
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Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:09 am
CW Hart According to the bible your not suppose to strike even when they hit you first, so yes. Personally I don't blame you though. But let me give some advice, next time he opens his mouth, remember who YOU are and be proud of it. Words can be powerful, and personally I didn't like either comment, then again I don't approve of any *Blank* will send you to hell rants. I know both subjects are very VERY touchy and I have a friend in Irag now. I don't take too kindly to people bashing my military here. The government can go to hell, but I think everyone needs to show respect to their troops. i think they should get thier asses back to afghanistan to help the Canadians get out, seeing as how it's america that dragged us in in the first place. I think that they shouldn't have gone into Iraq in the first place but i'm planning on shaving my head and joining up so i guess i can't talk too much s**t about them.
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Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:13 am
Well for starters Laz my friend, the President is the one dictating their actions. Not the troops themselves. Though I don't agree with the government's decisions on where to place our troops, I do still have respect for the military itself.
Also I'm usually not one to bring this up, but isn't it crazy that a Deist and a Satanist got here with our responses before any Christians?
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Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:17 am
CW Hart Well for starters Laz my friend, the President is the one dictating their actions. Not the troops themselves. Though I don't agree with the government's decisions on where to place our troops, I do still have respect for the military itself. Also I'm usually not one to bring this up, but isn't it crazy that a Deist and a Satanist got here with our responses before any Christians? yeah it is amusing to me. there was a thread in another christian guild i'm on in which myself, a Wiccan and one i'm whose religious affiliation i have yet to figure otu got there before any christians.
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Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:22 am
well to me Homosexuality is wrong and the bible states that, but i think what u did was justified because he provoked you for being hateful, the bible says to love everyone i don't hate anyone i just don't agree with some peoples beliefs
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Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:26 am
Lazarus The Resurected Tu est Freancais? ton anglais est completement parfait. I was born in Canada and lived in America for 6 years, so I have been speaking English almost my whole life, and I've been taking French since middle school, and live thier now. Therefore I am good at both languages, but better with English. The thing is, neither is my home language. My home language is Athabascan.
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Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 3:29 pm
Valley of the Kings Lazarus The Resurected Tu est Freancais? ton anglais est completement parfait. I was born in Canada and lived in America for 6 years, so I have been speaking English almost my whole life, and I've been taking French since middle school, and live thier now. Therefore I am good at both languages, but better with English. The thing is, neither is my home language. My home language is Athabascan. ok. so technically your canadian. just as good to me. Athabascan? as in the waterway in alberta?
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Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 4:15 pm
Lazarus The Resurected Valley of the Kings Lazarus The Resurected Tu est Freancais? ton anglais est completement parfait. I was born in Canada and lived in America for 6 years, so I have been speaking English almost my whole life, and I've been taking French since middle school, and live thier now. Therefore I am good at both languages, but better with English. The thing is, neither is my home language. My home language is Athabascan. ok. so technically your canadian. just as good to me. Athabascan? as in the waterway in alberta? Yes. I am a Canadian living in France. And Athabascan as in peoples native to Alaska/Western Canada (I am First Nation [Canadian Native Americans])
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Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 5:28 pm
Valley of the Kings Okay, first : I live in France, not the US. This guy at my school is really REALLY Catholic, and had the attitude that 1) all gays go to hell, 2) all soldiers who fight for a non-Christian nation (like France (less than half of all Frenchmen are Christian) go to hell. Being a gay army cadet, I was pissed. I tried ignoring him, but after school the other day he opened his mouth a little too wide. Now he has a busted lip and a possibly broken nose. So, my question is: is it unchristian (I'm Unitarian) to start a fight when HIGHLY provoked, as I did? Personally I feel what you did was right. I would have broke his jaw. So the bible says not to fight, or kill. Even though a book says its wrong it wouldn't stop me from doing either....if I had to. Violence can be used, for good. By the way I'm not Christian. I have no religion.
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Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 8:35 pm
Valley of the Kings Lazarus The Resurected Valley of the Kings Lazarus The Resurected Tu est Freancais? ton anglais est completement parfait. I was born in Canada and lived in America for 6 years, so I have been speaking English almost my whole life, and I've been taking French since middle school, and live thier now. Therefore I am good at both languages, but better with English. The thing is, neither is my home language. My home language is Athabascan. ok. so technically your canadian. just as good to me. Athabascan? as in the waterway in alberta? Yes. I am a Canadian living in France. And Athabascan as in peoples native to Alaska/Western Canada (I am First Nation [Canadian Native Americans]) i figurted there was a tribe who's name was given to the watterway, living in Nova scotia i don't know much about aborignial comunities out west.
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Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 3:38 pm
The greatest single cause of atheism
in the world today is Christians,
who acknowledge Jesus with their lips and walk out the door,
and deny Him by their lifestyle.
You asked the simple question of is it unchristian. The simple answer is yes.
Christians are supposed to love people, not hit them.
And I'm sure you know of the various places in the Bible that state that God is against homosexuality..so I don't see why you'd be so pissed that someone said that.
"all soldiers who fight for a non-Christian nation (like France (less than half of all Frenchmen are Christian) go to hell"
In my opinion you shouldn't fight for anyone but God. If you feel called to join the army, then do so. Otherwise you're wasting time there. What with all the corruption in governments, I'd never join it.
That is what an unbelieving world simply finds unbelievable.
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