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Solus Canis Lupus

PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 9:03 pm


http://ps3.qj.net/Rumor-PS2-backwards-compatibility-for-40GB-PS3-in-October/pg/49/aid/120806

A rumor, but I've been speculating this for a while...I'm still placing my bets that there will be a software emulator before the end of the year.
PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 6:56 am


i just want homes to hurry up and get here!

Ezeikial
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Sailorcancer2004
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 7:36 am


When this comes out will the 20, 60, and 80 GB PS3s become all software emulated as well?
PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:28 am


Sailorcancer2004
When this comes out will the 20, 60, and 80 GB PS3s become all software emulated as well?

Maybe the 80, but I doubt the 20 or 60 will. I know the 60 uses the EEC...but I forgot whether the 20 does or not. Anyway, I think the models that use the EEC will continue to do so because that's pretty much 100%(well...maybe a problems with very very few games) BC. The 80GB already uses half software emulation(because it has a PS2 GPU, just no EEC), but that emulation might be improved upon with this update.

That is if this just isn't some rumor and doesn't really happen...but I really think Sony is working on a software emulator. They know not having BC is a problem.

Solus Canis Lupus


Sailorcancer2004
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 1:04 pm


Canis Lupus the LoneWolf
Sailorcancer2004
When this comes out will the 20, 60, and 80 GB PS3s become all software emulated as well?

Maybe the 80, but I doubt the 20 or 60 will. I know the 60 uses the EEC...but I forgot whether the 20 does or not. Anyway, I think the models that use the EEC will continue to do so because that's pretty much 100%(well...maybe a problems with very very few games) BC. The 80GB already uses half software emulation(because it has a PS2 GPU, just no EEC), but that emulation might be improved upon with this update.

That is if this just isn't some rumor and doesn't really happen...but I really think Sony is working on a software emulator. They know not having BC is a problem.


How does the PS3 upscale then? I mean isn't it through RSX? I"m not all that knowledab.e in how upscaling works.

And while the 20 and 60 GB models do have 100% down for emulation there are bugs present in them that emulation would fix.
PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 1:40 pm


Sailorcancer2004
Canis Lupus the LoneWolf
Sailorcancer2004
When this comes out will the 20, 60, and 80 GB PS3s become all software emulated as well?

Maybe the 80, but I doubt the 20 or 60 will. I know the 60 uses the EEC...but I forgot whether the 20 does or not. Anyway, I think the models that use the EEC will continue to do so because that's pretty much 100%(well...maybe a problems with very very few games) BC. The 80GB already uses half software emulation(because it has a PS2 GPU, just no EEC), but that emulation might be improved upon with this update.

That is if this just isn't some rumor and doesn't really happen...but I really think Sony is working on a software emulator. They know not having BC is a problem.


How does the PS3 upscale then? I mean isn't it through RSX? I"m not all that knowledab.e in how upscaling works.

And while the 20 and 60 GB models do have 100% down for emulation there are bugs present in them that emulation would fix.

Well, for very few games. The EEC and PS2 GPU is pretty much full proof since they're hardware. It's not a PS2, and because of the differences there will be small bugs in very few games. But yes, some software could tell the hardware how to emulate those games a little better.

And I'm not sure about it myself, but I think the graphics go through a PS2 GPU first and then the RSX upscales the output...I think.

Solus Canis Lupus


Drinky McIrish
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 10:02 pm


I somewhat doubt this, I honestly think that if it were possible some would have already hacked the 40GB to allow it to play PS2 games.
PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 10:24 pm


Canis Lupus the LoneWolf
Sailorcancer2004
Canis Lupus the LoneWolf
Sailorcancer2004
When this comes out will the 20, 60, and 80 GB PS3s become all software emulated as well?

Maybe the 80, but I doubt the 20 or 60 will. I know the 60 uses the EEC...but I forgot whether the 20 does or not. Anyway, I think the models that use the EEC will continue to do so because that's pretty much 100%(well...maybe a problems with very very few games) BC. The 80GB already uses half software emulation(because it has a PS2 GPU, just no EEC), but that emulation might be improved upon with this update.

That is if this just isn't some rumor and doesn't really happen...but I really think Sony is working on a software emulator. They know not having BC is a problem.


How does the PS3 upscale then? I mean isn't it through RSX? I"m not all that knowledab.e in how upscaling works.

And while the 20 and 60 GB models do have 100% down for emulation there are bugs present in them that emulation would fix.

Well, for very few games. The EEC and PS2 GPU is pretty much full proof since they're hardware. It's not a PS2, and because of the differences there will be small bugs in very few games. But yes, some software could tell the hardware how to emulate those games a little better.

And I'm not sure about it myself, but I think the graphics go through a PS2 GPU first and then the RSX upscales the output...I think.


I just thought... the game I have problems with are PS games. Something the PS2 emulator won't fix.

Sailorcancer2004
Captain


Solus Canis Lupus

PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 10:04 am


Drinky McIrish
I somewhat doubt this, I honestly think that if it were possible some would have already hacked the 40GB to allow it to play PS2 games.

The thing is they haven't had any luck actually hacking the PS3 yet. It's a different story from the PSP. The SDK hasn't been leaked, so they don't have what they need to run homebrew on the system even with the few exploits they've found. And something tells me Sony would be able to program an emulator of their own hardware a lot better than hackers would be able to. They have the man power, and know the insides and out of the system.

It's a rumor I know, but I'm still willing to bet on it. Maybe not exactly October, but before 2009.

@Sailorcancer
Yeah...there's always those few games that have issues.

EDIT: And something that supports my claim about Sony being able to make a better emulator than the homebrew community could is the PSP.

Homebrew was available for the PSP for a long while but the only PS1 emulator they were able to develop was one that could only play a few games (and not very far, severe graphical issues made them pretty much unplayable), and the fps rate was horrible to go along with the graphical issues.

But it wasn't long before Sony released an emulator that was perfect. It had no problems with any PS1 games. Hackers unlocked the emulator with a custom firmware to where you could just back up your PS1 games and put them on the memory stick to play. No problems whatsoever. It's not 100% compatible, but it's in the high 90s.

The homebrew community didn't make the emulator, Sony did (but only intended it to be used for the games bought of PSN...but of course the hackers couldn't resist unlocking it). They know their hardware and software a lot better than any hacker does, so they have the upper hand when it comes to programming emulators. Plus, there is a lot more man power too.
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