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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 2:03 pm
so one night after church, my family went over to my aunts house and the topic of abortion came up. my aunt, i guess, is a pro choice person, she seems like it at least...and her and my dad asked me if i was in that situation, would i have an abortion or go through with it.
of course, my answer was i would go through with it, 1) because the baby (and yes i STRONGLY believe that even tho the baby is just growing in the 9 months, it STILL IS a human child) should not have to suffer, 2) God has a plan for EVERYONE on earth, i think everyone should have that opportunity to live their lives the way that God has planned (my religion, my beliefs, not tryin to force it on others XD) and 3) there are families out there who cant have children (my cousin cant because of cancer) and those babies could go to families who would love them.
i told this to my dad and aunt, they kinda had that "deer in the headlights" look on them, like they couldnt believe that i would do that. then my dad asked that even if it wasnt my fault that IF i ever get in that place, i would STILL do it. again, i told him yes and repeated the reasons, he kinda got a lil angry look on his face for some reason.
heres my question: Do parents sometimes try and have an influence on the teen girls decision in abortions? like they want the girl to get one because they are afraid of what image that would give of the family? thats something that ive thought about, but never really have asked anyone, so could someone maybe give an answer or opinion about this? thank you guys!
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 5:29 pm
Of course. Parents trying to influence their children into getting abortions is a pretty bad problem, really, and unfortunately Pro-Choicers tend to support it as the child not understanding and needing the push; Amusingly (Or sadly) they do not feel the same about it the other way around; If the parents try to keep their child from having an abortion, it's restriction of their freedom of choice. rolleyes
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 8:11 pm
Definitely. There are even parents who manage to get their daughters to abort without ever knowing their daughters get pregnant by telling them that if they get pregnant, they'll be hurt or thrown out. And there are parents who, on the other side, insist that their children go through with the pregnancy, and those that insist that adoption be used instead of abortion or keeping the baby.
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 8:16 pm
Speaking of that, I actually read an article where it sounded like the mother was going to make her daughter put the baby up for adoption. I thought that was a little... Anti-choice of her. I mean, definitely better than abortion! But still, to not give her any choice, to make it like a punishment for getting pregnant at that age.
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 10:29 pm
I.Am Speaking of that, I actually read an article where it sounded like the mother was going to make her daughter put the baby up for adoption. I thought that was a little... Anti-choice of her. I mean, definitely better than abortion! But still, to not give her any choice, to make it like a punishment for getting pregnant at that age. I can kind of understand it though. I mean...was the situation that the grandmother of the child (the one insisting on adoption) would end up doing most of the childrearing? That happens a lot, and I can understand not wanting to take on that role. I also don't think it's fair to expect your parents to help you out if you get pregnant and you're young. If your parents are willing and offer, then that's one thing, but to get pregnant and think, "Well it's okay, my parents can totally help me out," isn't fair, I think.
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 10:33 pm
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Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 12:27 am
Yeah, teen boys, too.
I mean, my stepdad was discussing abortion with me one time, and he got very heated because he's vehemently pro-choice (and pro-death penalty, but that's another story). He tried to convince me that the fetus didn't matter, etc-- but my views are firm.
That's the way you should be as a lifer, firm, but not pushy. You get more flies with honey than you do with vinegar. I don't like to be pushy about my views, at all really, because it doesn't get you anywhere in an argument other than pushed away.
The kids who get into these situations have a choice to make, and the parents, unfortunately, think that it's best for them to take things into their own hands, sometimes, and do what's best for them. I think the kids who are forced into abortions are the ones who suffer more, rather than the ones who are made to have the child. Emotionally, I'm sure they would.
And if people want to try and change their kids views on things, then they don't realize that kids CAN have different views and choices seperate from their parents, and that that's a good and normal thing. And those kinds of people are like, so totally off base.
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Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 12:25 pm
Actually, sadly, you catch more flies with vinegar than with honey. sad
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Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 12:38 pm
yeah i do believe that parents pay a big part in the decesion for or against their child having an abortion. It goes back to what their parents taught on the subject of the human life and i believe we're lacking in teaching our children the importance of life and when it starts... and how precious it is...
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Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 2:55 pm
McPhee Yeah, teen boys, too.
I mean, my stepdad was discussing abortion with me one time, and he got very heated because he's vehemently pro-choice (and pro-death penalty, but that's another story). He tried to convince me that the fetus didn't matter, etc-- but my views are firm.
That's the way you should be as a lifer, firm, but not pushy. You get more flies with honey than you do with vinegar. I don't like to be pushy about my views, at all really, because it doesn't get you anywhere in an argument other than pushed away.
The kids who get into these situations have a choice to make, and the parents, unfortunately, think that it's best for them to take things into their own hands, sometimes, and do what's best for them. I think the kids who are forced into abortions are the ones who suffer more, rather than the ones who are made to have the child. Emotionally, I'm sure they would.
And if people want to try and change their kids views on things, then they don't realize that kids CAN have different views and choices seperate from their parents, and that that's a good and normal thing. And those kinds of people are like, so totally off base. i so agree. we are not robots that you can program any way you choose, thats what computers are for XD. sometimes tho, it seems like adults cant grasp that concept, like i hear some parents say "well back in my time this is how it was done.." and stuff like that..well guess what, we arent in your time parents out there, this is our time, we have a choice and we can change how the world is now if we stick to our beliefs and morals. that is why, as pro life supporters, we CANT let others choose or have an influence on the way we think, if we want to make the situation better we have to stand strong and not let anything knock us down.
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Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 11:49 am
aoi_tenshi08 heres my question: Do parents sometimes try and have an influence on the teen girls decision in abortions? like they want the girl to get one because they are afraid of what image that would give of the family? thats something that ive thought about, but never really have asked anyone, so could someone maybe give an answer or opinion about this? thank you guys! I'm sure some do, some may push the teen into getting abortion and some would try to stop them,ect... (depends on the parent). I never gotten into that situation or had a long serious discussion about it with my parents or family members though. I heard some cases where the parents kidnap the daughther and try to force her to get an abortion. lymelady- I agree. I understand why the mother wanted to make her daughter put the kid up for adoption. If the girl decided to keep it, most likely the mother would end up having to take care of it cause the girl is probably still in school (if she didn't drop out) and most likely don't have a job, it wouldn't be fair to make her mom raise it and unless she offers to help.
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Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 11:36 pm
I.Am Actually, sadly, you catch more flies with vinegar than with honey. sad  This is completely off topic but I was just about to reply with that same comic 'til I scrolled down. confused I love xkcd. mrgreen
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Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 8:52 pm
Y'alls are nuts. I must be a total spaz for not reading webcomics.
I just think that being nice is better than being a total byotch.<3
Usually helps the situation. 3nodding
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Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 8:04 pm
Your parents influence pretty much everything in your life 0-16, sad but true.
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Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 4:54 am
Yes, parents try to impression the girls to take their points of view. I am completely with you on the fact that even if I were raped I would keep the baby. Abortion is wrong on any means.
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