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Lunaries
Crew

PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 12:13 am


Just tonight, because of circumstances, I was thrusted into the teaching role for the first time. It was nerve wracking to say the least, and though I'm usually not a shy person, I find myself a little stressed.

My sensei did beforehand, share with me some parting wisdom on how to teach:

easy to hard
Go from easier simple techniques to harder ones
simple to complex
Break down each technique to steps, to simpler forms that students, especially beginners, could recognize
known to unknown
Go from what the student already knows, and build upon that. For beginners, use examples that they already know and do instinctively and show them how to apply to techniques.

I think these are pretty self explanatory but sometimes it's hard to put them into words. I'd like for anyone to share any wisdom on instructing martial arts as well as any good stories.
PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 4:19 am


I'm a megare rank within the Bujinkan and it'll be a LONG time before I am able to teach a class.

However there are a few things that the instructors do at our dojo, such as telling funny stories and having a laugh, for why do a Martial Art if you don't enjoy it? It's like Barbers and dentists talking to you to put you at ease whilst they're working.

I'll try and find some other stuff as well.

Taijutsuguy


Thunder Foot
Crew

PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 8:36 am


Hmm... Interesting topic.


Well, I would say... from my experience, one of the most important things to remember in teaching is relation to actual situations, or past experiences.

I remember when I was first learning Muay Thai (and even still to this day), when my Kru would explain this and that technique or combination... I would listen once, and didn't listen after that. I was somewhat assuming that I knew everything about a given technique after only being told once. Call it arrogance or whatever have you, but when my Kru would try to tell me about variations of techniques and other applications... I wasn't really listening. It wasn't until he started telling me about his past experiences that my ears actually opened up. I wasn't able to see the greater plans that my Kru had instore for me, until I heard those experiences.

People can relate to past experiences, or real time situations. Especially beginning students, because they are eager to apply their knowledge, or atleast have a feeling of doing so. By relating techniques to past experiences (if you have them), you can connect with that student. From that point on, they will want to perfect that said technique past their comfort level, which is what every instructor wants in a student.

PLus it also helps to build a students confidence in their ability as well.
PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 9:05 am


Be concious of how you present yourself, its far to easy to clutch your hands behind your back or some other sign of stress. As Taijutsuguy said, relax and enjoy yourself. I always found the idea of having to teach and that first bit where your stood up there in front of everybody was worse than actually teaching.
Have a laugh but dont be afraid to be a b*****d.
Another common fault of new teachers, once they get used to it, is to let the power get their heads and think they know everything, keep thinkin to yourself "I am teaching them, but I still have much to learn". It can be quite a difficult line to walk, you have to have the confidence and self assurance to do it but not lose sight of the fact that you still have a long way to go..
One tip I learnt, especially when teaching kids. Is that in MA there are some things are going to be fun and interesting to learn, and other things are hard, painful and boring to learn. If you just teach them hard, painful boring stuff they get despondent and bored, if you just teach fun interesting stuff they aren't learning everything they need to learn. So its best to mix it up. On the other hand you might not give a ******** what they think do your own thing xd

DarklingGlory
Crew


iLLvybe

PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 2:06 pm


i remember my instructors being energetic. If you're tired and your demonstrating your moves tired, then the students are going to mimic that. It's like dancing. When you learn a dance in a studio, your trying to mimic the movement being taught to you by the choreographer. Also, I don't think it's really necessary to be able to articulate your words as you teach, but it is a plus and makes things easier. Only reason i say this is because i recall my instructor being able to teach a student who couldn't speak any english at all. He simply demonstrated the techniques, "full out" i guess you could call it, and the student immitated it as best he could and practiced repetitively until he got it.
PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 3:12 pm


My Instructor... well he rolls with us occasionally (Not so much due to his bad back however) and he just uses basics and our favorite moves against us and shows us how their properly done during rolling. AKA he beats the s**t out of us.

Mirko_Filipovic


Eric Wolfborn

PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 1:04 pm


Teach others so they can teach. It's important to teach in a way that reminds students that, not only are they learning to fight, but they're picking up the torch, so to speak. They're the next generation of warriors and masters, and they should act accordingly.
PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 5:04 pm


Eric Wolfborn
Teach others so they can teach. It's important to teach in a way that reminds students that, not only are they learning to fight, but they're picking up the torch, so to speak. They're the next generation of warriors and masters, and they should act accordingly.


..... Wow, have you ever taught? EVER?!

Mirko_Filipovic


Wolf Nightshade

PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 2:38 pm


I have to teach some I hate it but I am an assistant instructor now so its part of my training my teacher tells me to slowdown during the drills so the others can keep up but I get nervous.
PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 9:37 pm


in retrospect talk to the student, as they are human, and demonstrate everything. telling the whys and hows, for what you are demonstrating, and tell about life stories that apply to it. thats for technique. if teaching form, maintain the disipline, and be willing not only to demonstrate how it looks, but how it applies to a situation of being attacked, also dont be nervous about walking up to students and correcting thier stances or anything out of place. your confidence shows be happy and energetic as this will carry you be observant and give compliments when and where deserved.

Master_Nichiren


Wolf Nightshade

PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 9:30 am


I always think that I am not as good as I should be with my art my martial arts my welding I don't feel that I am good at anything. On the up side it may make me work harder at it and I hope become more than I think I should be.

I realy don't like teaching at this time but some day I hope to.
PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 6:24 pm


(months and months later)

Well, one thing, is to not forget to do the things you teach. Today I broke my instructors thumb because he didn't have his hands in a fist when he blocked a kick.

Ihabia


DarklingGlory
Crew

PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2006 1:55 am


I once trained under a Master that never demonstrated any techniques as they had knackered knees...
Whats people take on that? Some person reaches a high rank in a martial art and then suffers health problems which result in them no longer being physically able to perform much of what is required of such a high rank...
Should they continue to teach? Is knowledge enough? I know from experience its easy to tell when somebody else is doing something well/wrong but not so easy to tell if you are...
PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2006 3:15 am


In my sport zhoo zhitzoo it's easy to tell when it's not working. How? Rolling/randori/live training. If an instructor got to that point he could probably just explain to us what we're doing wrong or tell us how we could possibly make it better.

But then again, through rolling we're naturally gonna progress.

Tatsuya_Kawajiri
Crew


DarklingGlory
Crew

PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2006 1:31 am


They were an excellent teacher and they had a couple of excellent demo models (4th and 2nd degree) but we never got to see that Master performing.. which was a real shame.
But then I've trained under at least two Masters that had incredible technique but were s**t at teaching...

Good words there, I've always thought sparring was the best learning method even if I've never done fullcontact in any class situation. But back to the should they still teach if they are physically ******** thing.. expaining what you are doing wrong can only go so far..the most fun I've ever had in MA and the best learning experiences I've ever had were sparring high degree blackbelts.. There's nothing quite like being thoroughly out classed to teach you a thing or three, be that actual fighting methods or humility. So if you can no longer spar doesn't like truncate a large part of what makes you a master?
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