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Yvaine
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 12:49 pm


This is a subject I hear a lot more about as time passes. To be honest, some of that is probably just me being more aware, as I'm going to start homeschooling my son this coming school year. I'll keep posting as we go (and time allows - I do hear it's time consuming), letting you all know how we're doing, but more to the point I'd like to hear from other homeschoolers! Is anybody else homeschooling? What have you found really helpful, and what do you wish you had known when you started?

I'll also sort through my links and post some that I found really helpful when I was looking to get started.
PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 3:15 pm


I've never had the desire to home school, and personally I feel that I don't have the tempremant for it either.
I think it's a great that there are people out there that are willing to and can do it though.
I wish you the best of luck with it!
Hopefully there are others here who have done the same and are willing to share tips with you. <3

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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2008 4:23 pm


I definitely can't do homeschool! I probably do have the temperment (and the organizational skills), but my husband works nights so we're really glad to have all the kids leave the house and go to school!! Summers are a bit hard, I'm constantly having to remind them that Dad's sleeping so BE QUIET!!!!!!!
PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2008 5:48 pm


i never wanted to home school. i don't think i'm smart enough and i worry about the lack of socializing.

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Yvaine
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 9:23 pm


I just faxed in my son's book order for the coming school year, and despite the fact that my sisters swear I'm not organized enough to homeschool - I've just finished working up weekly spreadsheets with color-coded class schedules! eek Perhaps I shouldn't mention that to my oldest sister, who's also going to homeschool *four* of her five kids this coming year (it was quite a surprise to me) and hasn't actually signed them up for a course of study yet. *I should probably mention that working up your own spreadsheets isn't mandatory; I subscribed to a parochial umbrella school, which provided a basic syllabus and a list of necessary materials. I'm just really excited, and I find it's easier to stay on schedule if I have a daily schedule sitting in front of me. And the colors are pretty.

I'm rather excited, as I get to be the art teacher (along with everything else), which is a pet subject of mine, and I know what my son likes (superheroes, cutting things out, and drawing on the computer with my graphics tablet). His preschool had him cutting things out, but also coloring them with crayons (which he hates), so half the time he just didn't bother. I'm going to be offering alternative exercises anytime a class assignment involves coloring a picture - or at least he'll have access to colored pencils, which he strongly prefers.

Also exciting is the opportunity to get my son started in learning a foreign language. I found a series of CD-and-booklet sets aimed at his age group (kindergarten) in a large number of languages, but thought I'd start with one of the romance languages, as later in the curriculum he'll be learning Latin (that's Grade 5). I enjoyed French myself, but my husband thought Spanish would be more useful. My son's take? "Nice try, bucko. I want to learn French AND Spanish!" ...Bucko?! So...he's got an extra language class. I'm hoping to learn some Spanish myself while we're at it, since the material I'm using basically involves learning a language through silly songs.

I think the most fun I've had in the planning stages, though, has been setting up the field trips. Most home-school curricula set a four-day class schedule (3-6 hours per day, depending on grade level) and then require some sort of learning activity on the fifth day to satisfy attendance requirements. Translation: weekly field trips! I had so much fun matching up activities with the time of year and the other subjects we'll be studying. Some are actually projects or festivals that will take place at home, like the Chinese New Year celebration. Mostly, though, we'll be visiting monuments, parks, the zoo, the aquarium...my masterstroke was planning a field trip to tour the Capitol Building during election week (yes, I know crowds are going to be awful, I used to work in DC).

The only thing we have left to do now is the infamous "socialization" portion, which we've happily partnered with the Phys. Ed. requirement. We know a kung fu school in our area that actually offers a dedicated home-school P.E. class weekly. So not only will our little guy be getting a good workout in (aside from the daily wiggle-breaks), he'll also be meeting other area kids who do school the same way he does (ameliorates that whole "I'm so weird because I'm not in a regular school" thing)! I expect this will actually work out better for him than regular school, because he's terribly shy and the group will be smaller and they'll all already have two things in common - home-schooling and kung fu. Also, he's met the sifu's two sons already, and had fun playing with them, and I'm pretty sure they're homeschooled as well.

I *might* research home-school groups and join one, but...my least-favorite aspect of my own socialization was in-group/out-group shenanigans, so my tolerance for groups is minimal at best. My ideal scenario would be to connect with the other kung fu moms, and maybe branch out from there.

Oh yeah, and now guitar lessons. My MIL just gave our son her old learning guitar, and he was so excited he marched inside like an honor guard for the battered old case while announcing that he wanted somebody to "teach him it". I know of a music store nearby, so I'll check with them for a recommendation, preferably tomorrow.
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Some of my friends have been a bit puzzled about why I've apparently gone insane. Why on earth am I staying home and spending practically all day every day being both a parent and a teacher? Well, we're doing homeschool for a few reasons.

First and foremost, my son is really bright. I've had more well-meaning adults pull me aside to make sure I know my son is abnormally bright for his age...This is not bragging, it was actually a bit scary at first realizing he'll need something more accelerated than most schools offer. Well, at least on some fronts. He seems more interested in language and reading than in mathematics, but that may change. Both my husband and I have our own lousy memories of being too advanced for the classes available in our respective schools. In my case, it actually involved the principal instructing my teachers to single me out for punishment, and to make up reasons if necessary (one of them felt badly and fessed up to my mother). In my husband's case, they had a go at curing raging boredom with Ritalin - which had no effect at all, except for the standard long-term side effects of the meds. Pity-party aside, what home-schooling means intellectually is that my son can learn everything at his own pace. If he's very advanced in one subject and speeds through the curriculum, we can get the next grade started while he works on-level in less-favored subjects. And if he hates math as much as his father did, he can speed ahead in English, stay on track in Science, and repeat material in Math.

Second, my husband is a shift worker. This means two things: a) we really don't earn enough to send our kids to a great school; b) our family's schedule does not in fact match up with the standard weekday/weekend formula. So after wistfully looking long and lovingly at Montessori schools, I realized that in fact I could do much the same thing at home, for a fraction of the cost (since I don't require a salary to teach), and with school being at home, we can set most of our weekly field trips to coincide with Daddy's days off (hurray for time with Daddy!).

Third, government educational policy scares me. I understand there are great magnet schools and that disciplinary practice and general student behavior varies regionally, but news stories are not encouraging. I also understand that the job of news shows is to sell themselves, but that doesn't change the fact that what they are reporting does happen in some schools (some in my area), and there is no guarantee that it won't be the one my children attend.

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So, that was long, but I needed to squee, and then I thought I had better address some of the reasons I've chosen the home-school route. Please note that I really do have nice memories of my own school experience, and believe every educational option has its merits. I've simply chosen what I feel is the best option for my children. And, of course, I'm sharing here so that anyone who's curious can get some helpful information and also let me be their guinea pig/canary before trying it themselves. (I watched two guinea pigs myself before deciding to try it.)
PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 10:46 pm


Ariana Silverfire
i never wanted to home school. i don't think i'm smart enough and i worry about the lack of socializing.

*nods* Yep, those are two of the most popular worries. The good news is, if you managed to get through high school then you're educated enough, and most homeschool students are socialized to be able to interact with people of all ages (including their own) instead of identifying only with people their own age. If you're at all interested, I strongly recommend reading The Successful Homeschool Family Handbook by Dr. Raymond & Dorothy Moore. They do a great job of covering pretty much any issue you might be worried about, not to mention a fantastic section on dealing with the stresses of homeschool (that whole no-time-away-from-kids thing...).

In fact, that reminds me I did promise to list my favorite resources. So I'll give you a short book list and some websites I found particularly helpful:

Books
1. The Successful Homeschool Family Handbook - That's the one I mentioned above. It starts out a bit dry, and I thought I'd made a bad purchase, but by the end of the first chapter it had become my all-time favorite.

2. Absolute Beginner's Guide to Homeschooling by Brad Miser - Reads a bit like those "[Subject] for Dummies" books. Has some nifty hints and tips for keeping things fun, and a nicely comprehensive list of other resources in the back.

3. Carschooling by Diane Flynn Keith - Not just for homeschoolers, actually, as you can do any of the activities during spare time in the car, but quite helpful if you're a busy family. No worries about fitting in the requisite amount of time for each subject; you can cover it while jetting around to soccer, ballet, music lessons, the gym, the grocery store, to visit grandma, etc. Also helpful for long car trips. I seriously geeked out about some of the stuff, and can't wait to try it!

Websites
1. Homeschool.com - It is what it says. It's pretty much the first website that pops up for anybody doing a basic search on the topic, and boasts a very supportive community and loads of basic information. My warning is that it can be pretty overwhelming if you're just dabbling with the idea, and can induce hyperventilation about "units", "portfolios" and "programs". Don't worry. As they're fond of pointing out, homeschooling is all about flexibility, so if your first stab at course planning isn't working out so well you can switch to something else anytime. This is also where I found a great link to homeschool discussions on Epinions, which put a real face on homeschoolers for me.

2. The Home School Legal Defense Association - This is a group dedicated to protecting the rights of home schooling families. They provide excellent links to state-by-state regulations, so you can look up the requirements for running a home school in your state. (For myself, once I saw how very basic the requirements were in my state, I breathed a sigh of relief and then started looking up curricula.) If you decide to join, they will provide legal counsel and representation in the event someone tries to legally challenge your right to home school your children. (Usually some well-meaning busybody who's sure you're secretly abusing your child, not teaching him.) Since I'm never too sure where my in-laws stand, I opted for a five-year membership just in case.

3. National Home Education Research Institute - If you're really a stickler for research results and expert opinions, this site is a godsend. For the most part, its current bent seems to be disproving the idea that home school means a lack of proper socialization. It also has plenty of research on the intellectual effectiveness of home schooling.

4. National Home Education Network - This is sort of a hybrid of Homeschool.com and NHERI; it's a good place to network with other home schooling families, and is also a bit activist about educating the public about home schooling. I'm more comfortable here, as it seems a bit less Type-A in its approach.

5. Seton Home Study School - This is one of the more avidly religious programs I looked at. It's the first one I checked out simply because one of my guinea pigs uses it and loves it. It was a bit too avid for me. It's also a Catholic program, so if that's not your faith, it's probably not of interest to you.

6. Connections Academy - This is the other end of the religious spectrum, which is basically a public school program that children can follow online while at home.

7. K-12 - This is the program I've heard raves about from just about any secular home schooling parent I chat with, though admittedly their kids are usually older. I have to admit the graphics are really exciting! I mostly worried it would involve too much glowing-screen time for my taste.

8. Kolbe Academy - Yes, at first glance this one looks rabidly religious too. It's parochial, yes, but doesn't feature "[Subject] for Catholics" as the title for every textbook, and in fact states repeatedly that its curriculum is simply their suggestion, and that if a parent wants to change the material presented, they are more than happy to accept the revised coursework as valid. Since the requirements for my state either involve thrice-yearly meetings with the superintendent of schools to evaluate my child's portfolio (yikes!) or else a curriculum supplied by a parochial school...Kolbe was my choice. I also really appreciated the classic leanings of the curriculum, focusing on not just fact memorization but also on honing discussion and debate skills and fostering an appetite for learning.

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Yes, I gave you three book titles and eight websites. Websites are easy and fast. Also, to be fair, four of the websites are just examples of some of the curricula available.

Yvaine
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 7:23 pm


I LIVE!!!!!

yup, I've been out of gaia because I started homeschooling my twins over the summer. Max has speech/communication problems and working with him on a one-on-one basis has made a HUGE difference in 2 months. It's really adorable when his brother helps him.

What system are you going with? The worst and scariest thing about homeschooling is the enormous number of homeschool styles out there. We're going with Waldorf/Enki since they are the closest to the Montessori they've been attending. And our personal views as Universalists and artists makes it ideal. We're also fortunate to have a good friend that owns an educational supply store for the homeschoolers in this county!

The thing that made homeschooling so easy for us was the joy we feel when we look in our boys' eyes as the gears click and they understand what we are teaching them. It's a serious head rush! And I also read in my homeschool search that if you are a parent, you are already homeschooling your child, it's just a question what you teach them and when. After all, my boys were counting the bars on their cribs instead of taking their naps when they were 1 1/2 in spanish and then english! (We're a bi-lingual/multi-cultural household) Kids are always learning when they play, why not make that play educational?
PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 2:23 pm


Squee! Another homeschooler!

I chose to go with Kolbe Academy, which is in Napa, CA. They're a traditional Catholic school run by Jesuits. My husband and I both really enjoyed our later parochial schools, and I do feel that a strong grounding in a religion of any kind is important for young children. I also think Jesuits have the right idea, as they incorporate other cultures into their curricula and also focus on clear expression and exchange of ideas. What really got me with Kolbe, however, was the fact that every single page of their curriculum stated that these were simply guidelines and that, if I felt my child would benefit from a different direction/angle/topic, I should feel free to alter it to my tastes. That made it the only Catholic curriculum I found that didn't beat you over the head with Jesus. I mean, I'm all for Jesus, but...there is such a thing as too much.

The main problem my son has is that he really doesn't like/is afraid of people. He does best when under the wing of people he trusts, and unfortunately anytime he catches a whiff of a teacher being patronizing, that teacher is no longer on his list of people he trusts. He was improving quite a bit before we had a home invasion last summer.

Yeah, we moved. And got him counseling. And got a burglar alarm. And a gun. Which we keep locked up, of course, but available for emergencies nevertheless. And he and his sister are doing pretty well so far. He's just working to readjust his ideas of who is trustworthy - and I really can't justify dropping him off at school and trusting teachers to work with him as well as I can.

Yvaine
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 5:18 pm


I wasn't quite sure how to answer the poll, since I used to homeschool, but I am not doing it now. It's a great experience if you want to and can do it, but right now we've got a lot going on, and the public school our kids go to is pretty good.

Does home-pre-schooling count? I've got a three-year-old too, and we learn all sorts of things together. wink
PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 4:26 am


I did "Joy School" pre-school for 2 years with 2 of my children and 1 year with one - and had my boys at the local high school pre-school because a neighbor talked about how much one-on-one time there was for them there and how much they learned! Also my youngest got to attend with Jen as one of the teachers!

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 6:26 pm


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I was home schooled when I was younger and it was the best experience of my life.

I'll home school my children one day :3

Public/Private schools are too scary now days.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 10:49 pm


HOORAY!!! The first week of home school is over! We all survived!

That said, we had a wee problem with attitude, but it usually subsides when I mention to my son that he can always transfer to the local public school, which starts about an hour earlier than our home school does. Oh yes, small boy loves his sleep. Apparently he also loves Math. He decided it was going too slowly and it wasn't fun, so he got very truculent about all his school work until we found out what was bugging him. Now, one week in, he's two days ahead in Math and will probably be a week ahead by the end of next week, since it's a little harder material but still stuff he already knows. I was worried at first, but then realized it might be nice to have some wiggle room later in case there's a concept he has trouble with.

I have learned quite a bit in this first week. For one thing, we're learning French and Spanish, and the songs are pretty much indelibly printed inside my brain. I catch myself humming them at the oddest times. But hey, I'm learning another language too, so go me! Also, I've learned something really fascinating about my son's learning style. Apparently, being rushed completely locks his brain up. If he feels pressured to grasp a concept, he goes blank and can't even remember the things he's already learned, let alone whatever it is he's working on. But, like clockwork, once I explain to him that he's got plenty of time to work on the concept, and that he can take as long as he needs, and that I won't make him move on until he's comfortable...five seconds later he's got the answer and the concept nailed. It is fascinating to watch. Does anybody else have a child with a similar learning pattern? It carries similarities to how my husband deals with certain kinds of pressure, but I always thought he just had leftover issues from a rough childhood. Hmm, maybe not.

The fun part came when, on Day 2, we found out my mother might have scabies and might have passed them on to me. Stripping all the beds, taking flea-dip type baths, cleaning surfaces and then powdering them, washing a LOT of laundry, then cleaning up the powder a few days later - oh yeah, we're just home schooling, no pressure here! It was unreal! I survived, did not burst into tears, and remained weirdly optimistic throughout. I think maybe *I'm* less stressed about school with home schooling. Maybe that dislike of pressure to perform comes from both parents...

Oh yeah, and we're pretty sure I'm actually clean. Also, I have caught my not-yet-two-year-old daughter babbling the foreign language songs to herself. Life is good!

Yvaine
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Yvaine
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 11:01 pm


l_N a r a_l
Public/Private schools are too scary now days.

Yep. The part about a body cavity search of a pre-teen honors student for *gasp* TYLENOL was kind of my breaking point. I mean, wtf? And don't get me started on the sex-n-drugs...among ELEVEN-year-olds... No thank you to that kind of socialization! We get our socializing done in kung fu class, thanks.

Not to mention, and I feel this is important, home schoolers don't really get any homework, per se. They just get their work done on their own schedule, and the rest of the time is their own - and I've seen the amount of time my friends have to spend hanging over their kids and helping them with their homework! It's like they're home schooling anyway, but they're also sending them to school...And wasn't there all that furor over children with back problems from having to cart all those books home every night?
PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 7:05 pm


Quick update:

We've finished our first month! Hurray! We're all alive and have learned things!

My son's a bit advanced in math...he's about six weeks ahead of the curriculum, because he'd rather do a few more pages even after I tell him he's done. He slowed up once we got to learning how to write the numbers. I think we may need a review day for writing the number 5. He gets confused about where the curly bit comes in... It's really nice to have him ahead, because this way I'm not freaking out about having to review.

Of all the other classes, I think his favorite is a tie between Health (we're using my old Anatomy & Physiology textbook to learn body systems - I think he enjoys the higher-level vocabulary) and Social Studies (I sit with him on the sofa and we read Greek myths).

And of course, since she's very observant and bright, my daughter is picking things up too. She can name about twenty different animals and she can identify at least five colors. And bless her, she *tries* to sing the Alphabet Song: "ubble-oo, ex, tee-n-vee, ubble-oo, ex..."

And our stuffed panda toy has now officially been christened Monsieur Le Petit Panda. He wanders around asking people how they're doing in French, in a style eerily reminiscent of Maurice Chevalier. I can't help but wonder what inspiration will strike during Spanish...

Yvaine
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 11:20 am


I think homeschooling is a good option for some people, but I think there needs to be an actual valid reason to homeschool. I, personally, would be afraid of the lack of socialization with peers that my children would have. They wouldn't learn how to communicate with people they don't know.

However, when I say I think there should be a serious, valid reason for choosing to homeschool is this. My ex-fiance and his brother were both homeschooled because they were "picked on." Half or two thirds of the children in a school are picked on by someone or another. Even if your children are picked on, its a social situation they need to learn to deal with and make mature decisions. Now, violence is something different. But these two were just being picked on, so their mother began homeschooling them. Even today, they are so overly dependent on their mother, that it has impaired their ability to be independent. Both of them are lazy, don't want to work, and live with their parents. They don't help out around the house, cook supper, or even clean their bedrooms. They have to be told to take a bath. They literally do act like children and there is no reason for that when they are in their mid-twenties. And I think homeschooling had a lot to do with the way they are, because their mother is too overprotective. They just want to sit at home and be children playing video games and watching tv because that's what they've been doing for the last ten years, even when they were in school.

Granted, I'm not blaming homeschooling for their problems, but their mother's overprotectiveness and not letting them experience any kind of social behavior. I don't want my daughter to end up like that. I want her to be friends with everyone and take being picked on with a grain of salt. But I think we all want that for our children.
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