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 Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 8:32 pm
I've rescently heard an interesting debate where one of the speakers argued that the problem isnt that people are excluded from marriage but the legal institution of marriage itself. In a way I think this is a valid point. I mean legal marriage is in many ways just an institution for the government to give benifits to people who are willing to conform to the outdated regulation of marriage. I mean, there are some important things included, like next of kin or shared custody but really already people can sign health proxy forms. Most of what would be needed to be changed is the system of adoption in america.
I'm not talking about the religious institution... religion has every right to do what it wants but legally speaking whats the point of propping up an outdated system?
What does everyone else think?
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Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 4:02 pm
Hmm, devil's advocate, food for thought indeed. I don't really think the idea of formal, legal marriage is outdated or a problem, but yes, adoption definitely needs to be tweaked and a few other things. In order to be recognized to get the marital benefits, you'd have to cosign something, at least, I'm sure, and if that were to be possible, would there be any need for marriage save for ceremonial purposes? Not sure if that would be good or bad. Marriage is more binding, more resolute, and we don't want children to have even less stable family lives than they do already. I wonder what not having marriages would do to society...hmmm....Though I'm sure if there were something so simple as cosigning something (well, you know, the general idea) like for an adoption, I'm sure someone would try and mebbe succeed in denying that to same sex couples. Thanks for the thoughts, I shall think them. 3nodding
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Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 1:59 pm
The government regulates it. that is the problem unto itself. The government can't regulate love, so therefore they should have NOTHING to do with marriage. We should pull that institution away from them.
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Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 10:56 pm
Its hard to say. Marriage is both a legal matter and a religious matter.
Legal in the scene of custody of children, property, tax information, all that kind of stuff.
Religious in the scene that most "marriage ceremonious" are performed in front of a God of some religion.
What the problem is that there is no separation between the two. That's why some states like Oregon (yay <3) are having laws like the Civil Union. Its not a marriage but it gives you all the legal benefits.
What should happen ( IN MY OPINION ONLY) is that ALL marriage needs to be striped down to a legal matter THEN a religious ceremony can be done separately if so wished by the family.
So the state can marry two together. And anything done out of that is just that, a ceremony, not what actually binds the people.
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