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 Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 3:10 pm
Today, 01/05/2008 is the Holocaust day. We are doing a ceremony in the memorial of the six million Jews, including one and a half million children, who were murdered, tortured to death by the Nazis and their second hands, ymach shmam (free translation:let their name be demolished).
Don't forget it, good people of the JGG. IT HAPPENED. Curse you, Holocaust deniers!!!
Thanks for reading biggrin .
P.S.
3 of my grandparents are Holocaust survivors. I'm 3rd generation in Israel, HELL YEAH! WE BEAT THE HELL OUT OF YOU, GERMANS, WE ARE ALIVE AND KICKING!!!! scream
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Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 3:32 pm
Today at my school, our chapel was over Yom Ha'shoah.
all 4 of my grandparents are survivors (although I barely get to see two of them since they live in Israel and I in America) but the two who live near me seem to have a way to make reference to the Holocaust in lots of discussions. I can just never seem to get that topic off my mind.
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Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 5:08 am
I'm right there with you, Tsshark, except for one detail: We didn't beat the Germans. We beat the Nazis. There are, and were at that time, many good Germans who did not realize what their government and fellow citizens were doing. There were many good Germans who felt they had no choice but to participate, since the alternative was to lose their own families as punishment. There were many good Germans who helped our people, and the other victims of the Sho'ah, as much as they felt able to do -- at great personal risk and cost.
Call the monsters Germans; it was, after all, their nationality. But do not call all Germans monsters. The Nazis called us names, all of us, without exceptions. We dare not become like them, and assume that all Germans are to be painted with the same brush.
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Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 8:44 am
Divash I'm right there with you, Tsshark, except for one detail: We didn't beat the Germans. We beat the Nazis. There are, and were at that time, many good Germans who did not realize what their government and fellow citizens were doing. There were many good Germans who felt they had no choice but to participate, since the alternative was to lose their own families as punishment. There were many good Germans who helped our people, and the other victims of the Sho'ah, as much as they felt able to do -- at great personal risk and cost. Call the monsters Germans; it was, after all, their nationality. But do not call all Germans monsters. The Nazis called us names, all of us, without exceptions. We dare not become like them, and assume that all Germans are to be painted with the same brush. Agreed there, Divash, I definitely didn't mean to those who helped us, and yea, I know that some of them were good to us. What I meant was, that most of those damn Nazis were Germans. And as Indy (Indiana Jones) says: "Nazis. I hate Nazis" lolz. I hate them too.
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Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 6:40 pm
I have this strong feeling that in a past life I died in the Holocaust.
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Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 10:35 pm
CrazieDoily I have this strong feeling that in a past life I died in the Holocaust. Aha... Good for you... stare
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Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 4:56 am
I am currently on a study abroad program in Israel, and was on the group responsible for planning programs during our day off before Yom Hashoah. One of our visions was to cover topics that are rarely covered, or not covered that often, with an emphasis on activism. We started off with a program on common arguments made by Holocaust deniers and their refutations. Then, we had a museum on other genocides (Darfur, Rwanda, Cambodia, and Bosnia), had a survivor speak, and then finished with a program on righteous gentiles.
The night before, we went to see a play in Jerusalem about four inmates at Auschwitz who are ordered to perform as entartainment for the Nazis.
During the morning, there were about ten of us working in the Olive fields (including some Israelis) when the siren went off. I couldn't help but look around and see everyone doing nothing except standing at attention. I also didn't hear any cars on the usually busy highway nearby for a couple minutes.
I also recently spoke to a couple of my relatives who live in Baka, Jerusalem. One of them made Aliyah in 1937, and the other has lived there her entire life. Apparently, there was an active Nazi chapter in the German Colony of Jerusalem until the British put a stop to it.
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Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 5:44 am
In the town where I used to live, there were a lot of remembrances and study programs for Sho'ah Day, but the one that affected me the most was the reading. The Jewish campus organization (of which there were maybe a dozen members) would erect a podium in the middle of the courtyard of the Student Union, light two yahrtzeit candles, and read the names of those who died. Every person got to take a half-hour shift at reading names for all 24 hours of the day.
" died of on in ." Over and over and over.
Every name that was recorded by the Nazis in their camp. Millions of Jews, millions of Gypsies, millions of Catholics, trade unionists, communists, Hungarians, non-whites, gays and lesbians, the handicapped. The list went on and on and on. The year I read, I read for three shifts in a row, because very few readers came to read during the 3am to 4am shifts. Then I came back towards the end of the day, after classes. We started in the middle of the names beginning with C (they're listed alphabetically), and we didn't finish with the C's that year at all. That's how many there were.
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