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 Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 5:59 pm
Telling them Dias Muertos is wrong. Not evil, but she's afraid of it. Can someone explain this to me because I had a big arguement and they keep on telling me I don't understand because I'm not filled with the holy spirit. This person is NOT racist, I know that for a fact, but I tried explaining that it has some superstition behind it, but all in all it's a celebration of a person ancestors and deceased love ones. Now someone explain to me how that is somthing to be scared of. Personally I love spending this holiday with some people back when I went to Highschool. Free food mostly but I also respected the fact that they had such close family ties.
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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 7:36 pm
personaly i enjoy the idea but being canadian have never celebrated. however wrong is pretty easy from a christian standpoint as you were all called to not mark for the dead it could quite possibly be an extention of that. alot of humans find the dead scary and alot of what the "holy spirit" says seems to be pretty much right allong whatever bias the human beign has. ie:the westboro baptists, the crusades,the mission of joan of arc, the burning of joan of arc, the witch hunts, the spanish inquisition, the jesuits, etc.
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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 8:06 pm
Dude alot of Catholics celebrate the holiday as well. I guess I should have been alittle more specific, but alot of people from Mexico, not all but a good majority, are catholic. My friend is protastant and feels weary about it because of the superstition behind it.
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Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 5:32 am
CW Hart Dude alot of Catholics celebrate the holiday as well. I guess I should have been alittle more specific, but alot of people from Mexico, not all but a good majority, are catholic. My friend is protastant and feels weary about it because of the superstition behind it. ok there is a bit i'm not getting mostly has to do with the superstition maybe you could explain for me.
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Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 7:03 pm
Well most of the time if not all the time you go to a graveyard or graveyards where the loved one is buried to have your meals. It is believed by some that the spirits of the deceased come back from the other side to share the meal with the family.
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Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 7:15 pm
Gaia's Resident Christian Metal Head Eh. I say your friend is just overly paranoid. As Lazarus said, a lot of people have hidden behind the "holy spirit" and used it as a crappy excuse to perform inexcusable acts. People are people, and they need an excuse to do things they want to do. So they claim that the "holy spirit" is leading them to hate and despise a certain people, a certain celebration, any certain something that for some reason offends their own sensibilities. But the Holy Spirit is not something that is going to go about telling people to hate, to malign a certain something that is of no real consequence to anyone aside from the maligner, etc.
People have lost sight of what the Holy Spirit really is, and are abusing the idea to support their own outlandish ideals.
Dia de Los Muertos is nothing more than a celebration to remember family now passed at its core, and I find it ought to be treated as such. These people aren't sitting down trying to raise the dead with dark and Satanic incantations, they're just trying to sit down and remember what it's like to share a meal with particular loved ones. If there's anything wrong with that, is it really worth being right? Because Christcore is just so much better.
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Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 8:43 pm
I agree with you for the most part, but like I said this person is not a racist and this person does not use the holy spirit as an excuse to hate the holiday. This person is also very dear to me, just to let you know, and I know them very well. I know this is not hatred but a general uncomfortablness. They never gave a reason to why they dislike it, just that it gives them an odd feeling and that they would rather stay away from it.
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Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 9:20 am
Dia de los Muertos is one of those traditions that was rooted in the culture when missionaries were converting the locals at the time. Just like how Easter and Christmas holidays were similarly adapted from pagan celebrations. It has no biblical basis, but you can make a celebration with Christ as the center focus and I would think God would be happy with it. The problem is with any ritual/celebration it is easy to lose the focus on Christ and then the practice becomes meaningless, just tradition. With Dia de los Muertos I can't say if this has become the case because I haven't really participated enough in it to really evaluate it. Even if I have, it would be just in the area that I'm at. People can be focused on Christ in one area, but ignored in another so that kind of evaluation would be moot in a universal sense. As for the celebration its self, even if Christ is not the center, but the celebration does not lead people in to sin and way from God, I don't see anything wrong with it.
On to the subject of your friend, I would say that their feelings may be a combination of personal feelings with possible guidance of the Holy Spirit. If she sees that it is not a Christ centered celebration where she lives, then it could very well be the Holy Spirit telling her its wrong, but there is always a possibility that it is just her feelings and she is just attributing them to the Holy Spirit. I would tell her this and let her pray about it and have her discover this for herself.
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Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 6:08 pm
hasn't this holiday been family-centerd rather than christy centered since it's inception?
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Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 9:52 am
That is what we have to evaluate as Christians. If it is not Christ-centered then we must decide if we should keep that practice in view of the situation.
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Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 2:17 pm
I gotta say that family centered celebrations are great! Why would God have a problem with it? I dunno about this Die in de los Margarita holiday but it can't be bad if it is focused on family. Can it?
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Posted: Sat May 03, 2008 9:19 pm
Caterham_Paladin I gotta say that family centered celebrations are great! Why would God have a problem with it? I dunno about this Die in de los Margarita holiday but it can't be bad if it is focused on family. Can it? that depends on how you feel about hanging with the dead. personaly i love graveyards
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