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Sun Charm
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 4:10 pm


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I recently saw "An Inconvenient Truth" and I have stronger beliefs of global warming. There are more and more TV shows coming out about global warming like 6 degrees can change the world and The day after tomorrow and even books like The Final warning. The ice caps are melting rapidly and by 2010, almost all will be gone. What do you think about global warming?


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 8:42 pm


I agree with the evidence that points towards humans contributing to global warming. As such, I believe we need to find sustainable fuels that have low greenhouse gas output (alternatively, we could possibly find some way of capturning the gasses then trapping them). Fossil fuels aren't going to run out any time soon, but at the moment their rising prices are providing a good reason to start looking for an alternative. The alternatives that I support are biofuels made from lignocellulosic feedstocks (agricultural wastes, wood, plant residues etc.), environmental power generation (wind farms, hydrothermal, hydroelectric etc.) and nuclear (though there are security and safety issues with this option that need to be adressed).
I think we really need to take a serious stance when it comes to global warming, since it will severely decrease the biodiversity on Earth, and will have rather dire impacts in world weather patterns. And even if we can't stop it alltogether, it doesn't mean we shouldn't try to delay its onset either.
Does anyone know of any reputable sources that have information on natural global warming cycles? I would really like to do some more reading in this area.

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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2008 9:15 am


Global warming is a serious issue that nobody completely understands given the enormous scope of the earth-system and huge time spans involved. It is also countered by other major earth-changes. Global dimming, in a way is the opposite of global warming, being that industrial pollution blocks sunlight and cools parts of the earth. I saw a television special describing how pollution from North America and Europe blows over the oceans, decreasing solar evaporation and reducing the monsoon rains in Africa and Asia, therefore contributing to drout and human starvation. Another interesting point of the issue is the CO2 itself. I have heard before that scientist believed that increased CO2 might simple be seized by faster plant growth, since CO2 is a relatively small component of atmosphere by percentage. But then the Discovery channel had a special on dinosaurs where a paleontologist explained how core samples from Jurassic period sediments revealed CO2 concentrations far higher than we see today. This scientist tested a hypothesis where he grew plants of the same type in identical soil, but one group in an atmosphere of artificially high CO2. The result was that the plants exposed to higher CO2 concentrations did indeed grow faster and larger, but at the expense of being "less nutritious" meaning it contained more cellulose plant fiber and less protein and other organic substances animals need from food. This supported his theory that high CO2 concentrations (in this case probably from volcanic erruptions) caused plants to grow larger and less nutritious and required animals to in turn become larger to consume enough of them. In short, it was elevated atmospheric CO2 that ushered in the age of dinosaurs! The Earth is resiliant to change, but can respond in unpredictable ways.
PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 10:57 am


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Gas here is up to $5 and up to $9 in turkey (That's what I heard at least.) Oil companies are making record profit and something NEEDS to b done about it. I have seen hybrid cars and hydrogen powered cars on TV already as an effort to lower greenhouse emissions.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 8:36 pm


Global warming is a definite issue that needs to be addressed by governments and companies.

However, how much of global warming is man-made remains to be determined, but of course it's still bad the envirioment, and us....Anyone been to Los Angelas lately? Smog is horrid....and that was when I went there 3 years ago.....
Natural cooling and warming trends have always happened in the Earth's history, and it normally corresponds with things such as the Milankovich theory. This theory states that the overall temperature of the Earth is dependent upon Earth's non-constant eliptical orbit, the time at which the earth's seasons are during the distance from the sun, and tilt of the Earth which is also non-constant, Earth wobbles between I think 24 and 22 degrees every couple of hundred thousand years. We are in the 23.56 tilt degree right now I do believe...I'm pretty sure at least.

But of course there are many different contributions to the climate of course, Volcanic gases cooling the Earth, Changes in ocean currents, ect.

In fact that is one of my largest concerns about Global warming, the melting of Arctic Ice changes Salinity densities which therefore changes the overall densities of ocean water disrupting up welling and down welling cycles that would essentially affect many deep ocean currents. The Gulf stream for example my change course, or just dissipate altogether. Altering the climate of western Europe, as many know the gulf stream brings warm water from the gulf of mexico to Europe, and this warm water helps this warming effect....without that warm water, England and other countries will be as cold and snowy as places like Canada and parts of Russia. This could affect food supplies, worsening food shortages and increasing prices.

And that's just one possibility.

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Gas here is up to $5 and up to $9 in turkey (That's what I heard at least.) Oil companies are making record profit and something NEEDS to b done about it. I have seen hybrid cars and hydrogen powered cars on TV already as an effort to lower greenhouse emissions.


That royaly sucks, Gas here is just under $4, yeah, the Oil Companies and their Greed is really getting on my nerves. I'm just gonna get an electric unicycle and be done with it, max of 40mph, but I donn't plan on leaving the areas I live in very often so....Which on a side note, if you guys haven't seen that thing, it looks kind of like a segway on steroids(different maker though)and it works like a Segway as well, lean forward to accel. and lean back to slow down, then lean to the left to make a left turn. It's cool.
PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 12:03 pm


To one side, global warming is a threat to human existance because human beings just can't battle againt a full force of nature.

To another, well others are in a pure sense of denial.

For sure, global warming is another gateway for Earth's another chapter of history. Unless the effect of global warming has directly impacted a country causing a sacrifice of millions of lives, no one, especially those who are kept in the dark or in ignorance, will notice them because it just doesn't "affect" them, well not directly to them anyway.

No one will take notice of the topic seriously unless some people die. That is just how it is anyway. Sad. stare

SageSheena


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 9:45 am


SageSheena
No one will take notice of the topic seriously unless some people die. That is just how it is anyway. Sad. stare


Global warming is not something that happens overnight, and due to the large number of people who die at any given time for any given reason, it is unlikely 'some people dying' will draw anyones attention. Besides global warming doesn't kill. Environmental changes due to global warming may.
PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 8:00 am


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Global Warming is a fact. People who say it's not real... are... aggravating. At my school, there are two people who don't beleive in it, thinking it's just a warming period. Me and my friends have laid out all logical evidence to support Global Warming, yet they still refused to beleive... thick headed... obtuse people!

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Sun Charm
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 4:34 pm


We just had the worst lightning storm of the decade and I strongly belive it has to do with global warming. The lightning and tornado got way too personal for me not to do anything about global warming. (Lightning hit our house and shattered the windows from the pressure jump. It caught the house nearby on fire too.)
PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 6:26 pm


well extreme weather does happen, but we can't always blame global warming for it.

Once there is a change in ocean currents, then the overall climates of place will change dramatically and it will be more readily connected to warming.

That suckes though, lightning once struck my deck and we had huge windows, so the light made us all blind for about the next 15 or 20 seconds...something like that....I was little so I don't remember how long it lasted.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 7:40 am


mazuac
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Global Warming is a fact. People who say it's not real... are... aggravating. At my school, there are two people who don't beleive in it, thinking it's just a warming period. Me and my friends have laid out all logical evidence to support Global Warming, yet they still refused to beleive... thick headed... obtuse people!

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I don't believe in Man-made glo-bull warming either....go ahead burn me as a witch..."oh noez!!!!!1" Logical Evidence...So evidence that shows warming is logical and if it doesn't its crap....Oh my! Whatever happened to people who actually used the Scientific Method. I would rather be thick and obtuse than be thick and be square. Us skeptics do not deny global warming....It is happening...we just don't think that man is causing it because the sun and natural fluctuations are much more powerful. Also the medieval warm period was warmer than now and resulted in fewer diseases, longer growing seasons, and overall a healthier world.....I could go on but everyone in the world that clings blindly to what has basically become a fake religion will ignore me....."How stupid they'll feel when the world yet to come is no different"-Directorio99, My friend and a certified Climatologist.
PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 7:43 am


Sun Charm
We just had the worst lightning storm of the decade and I strongly belive it has to do with global warming. The lightning and tornado got way too personal for me not to do anything about global warming. (Lightning hit our house and shattered the windows from the pressure jump. It caught the house nearby on fire too.)


The decade isn't over though.....You know what really makes me mad....Is that all environmentalist, Al Gore, Hansen, and the IPCC will say that there green technologies worked if the earth keeps cooling down.......I hope I see the day when Al Gore is exposed as a fraud.....That'll be the day. cool

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tiki_boyX2
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 2:54 pm


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go ahead burn me as a witch..."oh noez!!!!!1"

I most certainly hope you didn't base this off his faith. There will be none of that in here.

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Us skeptics do not deny global warming


Wait a sec. doesn't your other thread on this subject testify that the earth is cooling?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 8:49 pm


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Us skeptics do not deny global warming....It is happening...we just don't think that man is causing it because the sun and natural fluctuations are much more powerful.


It is true that the sun plays a part in this. Natural causes, such as volcanoes, play a small part; But, since the Industrial Revolution, CO2 and other greenhouse gases have increased because of human interaction. We just need to own up and face that fact that we've caused a problem in the world, and we need to fix it!

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