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Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 9:36 pm
 I don't like the right leg in this drawing (or the feet, but I'm going to re-draw them). It's supposed to be held out a bit and bent at the knee, but I guess that's not conveyed very well. I also don't think the perspective on the bottom half matches the top, but I might be too lazy to re-draw all of it right now since I don't have a lot of time to work on these things anymore. Basically everyone I've asked about this says the top half is nice, but the bottom half is confusing or wrong somehow. I agree with them, but they're not artists and they have no idea how to fix it, and I drew it so I have no idea how to fix it. But you guys might! I want to finish it and give it a background, so I need to make it look less awkward, haha. I don't have any references for something like this, so any advice is appreciated!
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 12:00 am
Ouch. This is gonna take some work. First off, I recommend you find some tutorials and study 3-point perspective. Which is trickier to pull off than 2-point perspective, though understanding 2-point perspective is the groundwork for 3-point and forced-perspective work.
Before I get going, you realize you're gonna have to at least make some serious changes? I might recommend starting with drawing a box or 'cage' in the perspective that you want, and then filling it in with the subject, so their feet stand flat on the bottom of the box lining conforming to those perspective lines and the shoulders or head lining up with the top of the box.
As an aside, once you have the box in perspective, you can segment it easily. The center of any square, even on in perspective can be found by drawing diagonals, from one corner to the other to form an 'X', the center of which is where the midpoint of the square lies. This will help you segment the upper body and the lower body accurately, and can further segment to place the knees and chest if you're using something akin to an 8-head model approach.
If you're short on time, overwhelmed, lazy, freaked out, whatever, get a piece of paper and start tracing the basic form of your current drawing making alterations to the perspective of the anatomy till something looks better. For example, try placing her right foot where her right knee currently is and redraw the leg in the new position. Or take the shoulders, make them the top of a box, draw the box in relatively accurate perspective and then place the feet.
Right now the legs on the shorts are the exact same length. With one knee up and the other straight, a difference in the length of the shorts would be seen. And her hips should probably be thinner to conform to perspective and her legs as a whole, much smaller. Her right forearm should recede much further, too. At present the right humerus (upper arm) is a bit short for how it's depicted. The left humerus should also be much longer than the ulna & radius (lower arm) of said arm.
In terms of staging, you're lacking an easily read silhouette with her left leg up like that, combined with the striped stocking and conformity of line-weight, it doesn't read well at all and confuses the eye so much that it takes too long to figure out. So the drawing becomes a drawing about her left knee, not what she's shushing about. Changing the thickness of the lines used in the depiction will also help structure the perspective, overlapping and distancing that appear in the anatomy.
Those are the main talking points I thought I should hit. sweatdrop
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Dr. Valentine Vice Captain
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:29 am
the legs are too long, basically.
if the feet are that small, the lower legs especially would be shorter.
smite's right though, this would work a lot better if it were properly blocked out.
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 4:45 pm
That is extremely helpful. Thanks! I can see this does need a lot of work. Don't know if I'll come back to it or if I'll just start something new, but I'll keep what you said in mind when I try this again. I'd never thought to just use boxes before, but that's like the most amazing thing ever now that I think about it, haha.
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Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 2:06 am
The perspective on her left leg wouldn't be changed that much from the right leg unless her left foot were propped up on something.
THat's not nearly as helpful as what everyone else has said, but it stuck out.
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