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I personally believe that adoption is better the abortion for the most part (depends on the situation). This subform is for both pro-lifers and pro-choicers so you would probably get mixed answers.

I also think that rape is no excuse for abortion since it's not fetus fault and that it might do them more harm mentally (they may need years of counseling, that is probably the only way they can get over it and heal mentally ).

Two big concerns for patients that had abortions are complications and health issues for both physically and mentally (the patient may be fine but they still run the risk).

Because I don't believe in bringing a child into the world when I won't be taking care of it...
Dunno. Just a moral qualm I have, I guess. Don't really care what other women want to do with their pregnancies, though.



I think it's worse to force a woman to endure an unwanted pregnancy. It seems incredibly cruel to me. Yes, more cruel than aborting a pregnancy.



I don't think there's any way to say, in any case. You can't say "ADOPTION WOULD BE BEST" or "ABORTION WOUDL BE BEST" unless you're the woman involved, I think. If a woman wants an abortion because it's an unwanted pregnancy, I think abortion is probably best. If the woman generally wants to carry the pregnancy to term but can't handle taking care of a child right now, I think adoption's probably best. Regrets come to some no matter which avenue you go down.

Yes, the rape exception would be difficult to enforce, but so was abortion.

I see it like this-- Automatically, there are more deaths from unrestricted abortion (from my point of view) than there would be for abortion only with the rape exception. And also, abortion only seems defensible in the rape exception because the woman is absolved of responsibility, legally. Yeah, so women will fake rape just to get an abortion, is it feasible that EVERYONE will go against this law, if it were to become one? I dunno.

The very fact of it being illegal would deter some people from abortion anyway, or at least rethink it, which I think would be better.

I agree with you about forced pregnancy, but forced pregnancy to me is one that comes from a rape.

Personally, I feel that only the couple involved in an unintentional pregnancy knows what the best option for them is. But then, I'm Pro-Choice, so rather obviously, this is the way I feel on the matter.

I think that it is usually easier on a given couple to keep a pregnancy and raise the child than either abortion or adoption. But that is not always a realistic option, depending on their situation.

Personally, I don't like the "there are couples who want babies, so don't get an abortion" argument. After all, there are thousands of children who already are born and breathing, and already need a loving home. I think that those thousands of couples wanting children and those thousands of born children needing parents should get together, rather than so many couples waiting for a newborn.

Waters, you probably like the "there are couples who want babies, so don't get an abortion" argument just as much as I like the "everyone dies" argument. Yes, everyone dies, but we as humans have decided that it's not right for other humans to just go around making each other die. It's not up to us to determine that someone else's life is worth more or less than yours.

'Cause all human life to me is equal.

We know that there are some things that need to be in place before pain can be felt. A zygote doesn't feel pain, and neither does an embryo. At some point, the brain and nervous system develops to the point where pain can be felt. There are many different theories on when this is, from the third trimester to the second that brain waves start forming.

However, the pregnant woman is capable of feeling pain before, during, and after the pregnancy. She has a fully developed brain, and certainly would not be doing very well if she wanted to terminate the pregnancy and was forced to continue it. And I feel that she should have the final say in what happens in her body.

I understand that, to you, it seems better that someone give up control of their body rather than someone dying. But I disagree. I think that one has to always be given control over one's own body. Frankly, I would rather die than give up control over mine again. Sorry, it's been a bad day.

You are right, though, pain, suffering, and eventual death are all a part of every life. I think we both want to see a minimization of all of these, we just have different ideas about what steps will best achieve that goal.

I'm sorry to hear about your rat, first of all and most importantly sad

But I do agree with what McPhee said. The only pregnancy that is truly forced, in my opinion, is a rape pregnancy. A law may force a woman to keep an unwanted pregnancy if she is to follow the law, but no law forced her to have sex and get pregnant in the first place.

So to me, it isn't about forcing a woman to give up control of her body or killing a human life. There is no forcing of pregnancy in the equation from my point of view (except, like I said, a rape case). Adoption is preferable to abortion from where I stand because it doesn't involve devaluing human life by saying a human life isn't worth as much as an orgasm. Multiple orgasms if you're lucky, but I still would think sex wasn't worth killing for. I might be sleeping with the wrong people.

I guess if humans aren't human beings to you unless they reach a certain level of development and then they have value because they're finally old enough, there's no problem with abortion.