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but a women aought not tell a man what to do it says there read the bible.
Why is it wrong for women to tell men what to do if it will benefit them?
Not to sound like a feminazi or anything, but I believe that all this nonsense about women needing to "submit" to their husbands or "obey" men is a load of garbage. This type of obsolete attitude is exactly what drives away many men and women further away from God.
While books like Timothy and Corinthians do have their good points and words of truth and wisdom, they were letters written by Paul, who was basically the most opinionated guy among the disciples and much of what he said applied directly to their old Jewish customs, many of which has absolutely nothing to do with us today. Traditions such as wearing head coverings and dressing and acting in certain ways applied to
their culture, NOT ours.
1 Timothy 2:8-15 contains Paul's views and opinions according to the ancient Jewish customs, and they have little to do with God's plans.
Let's not forget that 1 Timothy 6 also mentions laws regarding
SLAVERY. Many ignorant people living in Abraham Lincoln's time used such verses to support their views on slavery, claiming that it was not wrong and God was not against it.
Also, he said people shouldn't get married and many Christians still do it anyway.
I believe that what God wants from all of us - Women and men - is to serve one another with the love, grace and respect that He has demonstrated. There's a big difference between
slavery and
service. Jesus gave a perfect example of the latter. The women and disciples who followed Jesus also demonstrated exemplary acts of servitude and fellowship.
1 Corinthians 11:3-10 once again shows Paul expressing his own thoughts regarding his views on women. According to a few of my Biblical notes:
"In the Middle East, a woman who appeared in public barefaced without a veil showed loose morals... Paul's advice applied directly to the cultural situation in Corinth where unruly women were disrupting the worship services."
A modern equivalent would be a woman wearing an indecent outfit in the middle of a sermon (which I actually have seen!) It's disrespectful and it distracts those who are trying to hear the Word of God. While these books in the Bible are written in a style that many consider politically incorrect, we can understand that Paul meant to point out improper conduct in the church and was only trying to correct it. It has little to do with gender, and it can be applied to anyone.
1 Corinthians 7:12 - "To the rest, I say this (I, not the Lord)..."
As notes from the Zondervan Bible explain:
"Paul carefully distinguishes what is his personal opinion and what is a clear revelation from God..."
I bring up these examples because it seems to me that most people who believe men and women should behave in certain ways are under the illusion that it is
"God's will". Are there biological differences between men and women? YES. Do these physiological differences mean that men and women tend to think and act differently? YES. Is that enough reason to say that men should be over women or vice versa? NO. And people who think otherwise don't really have much of an argument. Their only reasoning for this kind of thinking seems to be the same old tired saying I often hear: "Adam was created first". They completely forget that Adam and Eve were supposed to compliment each other so that neither would be alone. God had big plans for BOTH of them, not just Adam.
Also, many believers think that Genesis 3:16-19 are commands from God. They are actually
God's warnings of what is to come because of their sin. They were NOT curses or commands.
"You will desire your husband, but he will rule over you."
Genesis 3 contains dire warnings, but they all came true. The serpent received his punishment when Jesus was born. All men after Adam were forced to work the land for crops, and women have been unfairly oppressed since the beginning of time. God didn't cause these things to happen, Adam and Eve doomed themselves the moment they disobeyed. Sin corrupted their minds and the minds of their descendants, human hearts became conceited and proud, and all hell broke loose. Literally. It didn't have to be that way.
Back to the main point, Galatians 3:16-29, Romans 16:1-2, Philippians 4:2-3 and Luke 8:3 all depict the importance of women in the ministry. Luke even mentions at least
thirteen women ignored by the other gospels. Proverbs 31:10-31 gives a tribute to women and wives with outstanding character and inner strength (far more important than inner beauty). In Song of Songs (also known as Song of Solomon or Canticles) the man and woman in the story are put on equal footing as well. I could go on and on, but the truth is that all of these reasons won't get through if the majority of Christian women continue to underestimate their own position. If it were up to me, I'd have these erroneous beliefs completely eradicated.
And so, unless you value the opinions of those from a long-deceased culture obsessed with ancient traditions, men AND women indeed are and should always be considered equal in all aspects of life INCLUDING relationships, marriage, business, and in preaching the Gospel. Women have put up with so much since the dawn of time. Scrutiny, criticism, the agony of childbirth, the responsibility of raising children (sometimes, completely on their own if they're separated or widowed), not to mention the countless cases of spousal abuse, exploitation, and rape. Yet something inside makes them go on and survive and many of them continue living their lives (and I'll tell you something else, they DO NOT make up the majority of mass criminals).
Jesus himself saw beyond these silly traditions. He stood up for an adulteress, spoke with a Samaritan woman (which was considered a big no-no) and then defended the woman who brought him oil while the other disciples scoffed at her. Now I ask, whose opinion matters the most? God's opinion, or those of the people? Jesus' opinion, or Paul's?
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