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I think many people just never bother to really find out what Chrisitanity is about, as they are already biased and want to stay that way. They have made their mind that Christianity is just about some restricting man made rules, and that Christians are those evil people who in the past have been executing those who disagree with them and even now they are close minded and intolerant, and they are just content with having such attitude because that way they aren't led to think about their own personal responsibility and sin and about what the real person of Jesus, the most important person Christianity really is about, means to them personally.

Well, lets look at it this way: We are all sinners, and before being accepted into God's family by salvation basically belong to Satan, the "god of the earth". Now, even demons know Jesus is the true Lord, and will come down and flee before him. Satan, demons, sin. Jesus, angels, love and rightousness. Now, don't you think it is demon/rock-heart spoken from Satan, when it comes to hate speach twords Christians? Have you noticed people seem fine with every other religion, but when Jews or Christians are brought up, they mock and hate it for no real appearent reason? And how these people seem to always act like they know everything and seem to have so much false pride?

As for the sheep thing, yes the Lord does say that. But he also says he is the good shepard, and will go out of his way to find any sheep that happen to get lost or stray from the herd, and then will rejoice greately over that one sheep being found baiscally more-so than all the other sheep staying. And I understand your point about what general goths tend to when it comes to religion, but this also applies to people in general, doesn't it? 3nodding
(also, the resentment thing, know completely about that, actually earlier this day... well, lets just say I felt rather homicidal twords a certain individual that I do not have the highest opinion of sweatdrop so yeah, it is natural, which I was saying was completely justified, now... well, although it maybe was, still wasn't right, you know?)

Also everyone, alot of people really do not know much or anything about Christianity neutral and most people think they do, or consider themselves saved and a christian when they hardly ever go to church, or cracked open a Bible. Or else, they are incredibly liberal, yet maintain harsh judgment of conservative christians and usually, from my experience, these are the people who judge by mere fashion.

personally, I prefer the eye for an eye approach...it's far more fun.


The reason that a lot of non-christian goths have states for not getting on with christians is that they've been dealt a fairly harsh hand in the past by christians, and naturally, it takes time for those feelings to clear up...I say give it a while and there won't be so many negative feelings between the two groups.

Clearly there's an issue with retaining a sense of individuality. To be honest though, I came through the whole thing about my church not accepting individuality as well as they could and didn't really suffer for it...so I really don't see why there should been an issue.

To be honest, I think I'm rambling, so I'll be quiet now.

We are just the same of other people, it is just that we have been forgiven and made a commitment to the living God. Although I feel bad and have asked for forgivness and help for it, trust me, I have threatened, hated and tried to kill plenty of people in my short life ^^; happily, things have been getting better lately when it comes to this subject.

A couple of the satanists I know mentioned it before.

"You can't be a nonconformist if you're not a Wiccan/Satanist/Buddhist"

Also, though I admit that I do not have the figures to prove this, it has been shown that a good number of goths are Christian; I'm Catholic, myself.

As for any notion of a herd mentality, I honestly think that freedom from that idea is a constant struggle that is never won. I know that other people tease their hair and design things on leather jackets, and other people love Bauhaus, so I know that being into the goth scene is no way to escape uniformity.