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 Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 9:39 am
I've been hearing a lot of silly things about dancers and body size, especially towards newbies who are interested in getting started in dance. The usual remarks: Oh, body size doesn't matter; You're fine the way you are; it was so cruel that someone told you to lose weight, etc, etc.
I find this a little silly. Dance is a very active sport with many, many opportunites to injure yourself. I don't see how someone who is heavy can continue dancing without making big attempts to slim down and get healthy. Not to mention being weighed down by all that extra baggage is not productive to dance. I keep hearing a lot of people excuses for people who are way too unhealthy to keep their unhealthy lifestyle.
I hate to come off as severe, but this is getting on my nerves. I keep running into people who think that being huge and unhealthy is okay. I'm not aiming this at people are are naturally a little big-boned and have some healthy meat to them. I suppose I am attacking laziness and unhealthy habits.
Thoughts?
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Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 2:59 pm
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Illustrious Verse Captain
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Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 8:19 am
well if your talking about people who could be considered obese then yeah sure.
but not many people like that don't take dance seriously anyway...
but you know why people say things like "weight doesn't matter" to beginners?
when they start to take it seriously, they suddenly lose weight and aren't a blimp any longer.
when i left for my 3 year break, i had gained nearly 40 lbs since i stopped dancing.
i lost 30 lbs of it in close to 2 months when i started back.
my original weight was 120, now im back to 135. i'm not there yet but i'm damn close.
(bet if i had a breast reduction surgery i'd be down to my goal weight)
you can't really be serious about dancing and be fat unless the 'fat' is actually really bulky muscle. all the work you do just burns it off. :/
the strain is unbelievable when you weigh as much as i did when i came back from that break.
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Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 10:23 am
I think being a graceful and beautiful dancer requires a healthy body. This doesn't mean a tiny, 90 lb, you can see her ribs from the balcony body. It just means fit and strong and flexible. You can't expect to look graceful if you can't see, much less touch, your toes. Anyone who is serious about dancing and does it a lot usually develops this kind of body, it is hard not to lose weight if you are overweight and are dancing and working hard in dance class a couple time a week.
What I think is cruel is when someone (a dance teacher or another dancer) tells someone they can't be a dancer because of something they can't control, like their bone structure. That is just stupid. Weight is something you can influence, genetics is not.
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Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 6:42 pm
Luckily I do not have that problem where people tell me how I should look. In fact, they could care less about me being a bit "wider" and muscular because of genetics. I way around 160 lbs, but that is due to the above said reasons, and I do fine even on Pointe.
Professional companies and dance schools need to take in more people like me and others and cease the horrid "be this thin and weigh this much" B***s***. Teachers and dance schools need to beef up and crack down on those that are WAY too overweight to dance without risking major injuring. Have them take classes that target weight loss rather than a full-fledged class designed for the more fit person. Have them look at healthier ways to eat and be more active during the days they do not have dance. Just do not deny them any dancing seeing that might just cause more unhealthy habits and self-disappointment to occur, but bring up the fact that those people who do not lose enough weight where injuries have a major drop in probability to occur will be cut from classes if they refuse to take better care of their health.
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Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 6:54 pm
Of course Obesity is bad.
But when girls thinking about dance are concerned for their body size, more often then not, they AREN'T obese. Everyone just has the misconception that ballerinas are all sticks. Which they should not be. Because you're more apt to injuring yourself if you're weak and underweight than being fat and working off the weight through dance.
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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 7:08 pm
Ballet is a sport that is designed for the fit and few, however if a "larger" person has a deep passion for dance and has no control over their body's "Bigness" then nobody should stop them. However, I do not believe that any couch potato that cannot fit through the front door should just wake up and say "I want to preform a ballet today" Of course, I am exagerating, but you get the picture
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Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 10:01 am
I'm going to say that most of girls in my class are pretty much stick skinny, although none of us are overly so, there is one girl who isn't, but that's just how her body build is, she can't help she's wider than the rest of us-- and frankly-- she's the best dancer among all of us!
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 9:15 pm
well, i dont see any problem with big people dancing
and there are other styles that larger people can dance, if ballet doesn't work
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Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 7:15 pm
i agree if bigger people do different dance styles i couldnt care less!
but when people r too over weight i think they should def slim down before starting ballet! ballet is ment to be graceful beautiful and i have yet to meet an obese person who is either
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Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 11:22 am
pinkfluffyemobunny i agree if bigger people do different dance styles i couldnt care less! but when people r too over weight i think they should def slim down before starting ballet! ballet is ment to be graceful beautiful and i have yet to meet an obese person who is either I have-- she's in my dance class- and she's just built bigger than the rest of us-- she's not really fat but she's just built widely-- and she's the best dancer out of the lot of us sticks
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Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 8:32 pm
Unless you're big and none of that is muscle, it doesn't nescasarilly effect how you dance. I have taken ballet since I was three years old, and I've always been the "Amazon" of my group. I've been the tallest and widest, but it's my bone structure. I honestly don't have a lot of fat on my body. I'm like that "plus size" girl who one America's Next Top Model. Not fat, but NOT a size 6. And unless I really need to, I'm not going to try to lose the weight. I'm healthy, I'm graceful, I'm pretty talented as a dancer, and I LIKE FOOD DAMMIT! 3nodding
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BallisticBallerina Vice Captain
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Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 7:18 am
I agree with you about once an obese or overweight person starts ballet they should use it as a form of exercise in order to be healthy, but I think if they're going to use it to do so it would be great for overweight or obese people to start ballet. I agree though that it isn't so great for them to start ballet if they're going to continue with they're habits and not work toward being healthier, and I'm not talking stick thin size two either just whatever would be considered healthy for their height.
Edit: And I'm not talking overweight by means of people that are healthy with a little meat on their bones.
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Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 7:20 am
MissaRosa Unless you're big and none of that is muscle, it doesn't nescasarilly effect how you dance. I have taken ballet since I was three years old, and I've always been the "Amazon" of my group. I've been the tallest and widest, but it's my bone structure. I honestly don't have a lot of fat on my body. I'm like that "plus size" girl who one America's Next Top Model. Not fat, but NOT a size 6. And unless I really need to, I'm not going to try to lose the weight. I'm healthy, I'm graceful, I'm pretty talented as a dancer, and I LIKE FOOD DAMMIT! 3nodding Exactly! Ballet needs more people like you!
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BallisticBallerina Vice Captain
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Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 1:39 pm
ballet does not need nice people. ballet is a harsh sport that only works to its full extent when done properly by the proper person. if the larger ones want to take ballet.. i suggest they either lose weight or find another class
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