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 Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 4:13 am
I got offered a job for teaching a kid guitar.. but i'm not to sure where to start. I'm still a guitar student myself, but my tutor said i'm more then capable to teach someone who is just beginning to play.
So does anyone have any ideas for songs/things to teach straight off? I know i'm going to talk to him and see what he wants to get out of his guitar playing, so i can find songs to teach him. Start on the names of the strings, then names of note on each fret, then move to scales and chords.
Any ideas on teaching methods and some easy songs?
I started learning Greenday, so i'm probably going to teach that too razz haha
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 1:45 pm
start teaching him how to transpose sheet music to guitar right off the bat, it may sound a little crazy, but if he gets that down in the begginers stage it will make learning songs on his own from sheet extremely easy a lot quicker,
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 5:17 pm
When I first learned guitar, my teacher taught me green day, of course, and the horribly easy songs that come in the beginner books.
But after playing every scale until they're sick of scales, I would try some of the songs I first learned: an easy tabbed version of "Here Comes the Sun" by the Beatles, easy strumming of "Heart of Gold" by Neil Young, Synchronicity Part Two(a little harder), and "Silent Lucidity" by Queensyrche, to name a few. These songs helped me in the very beginning(a couple years ago). Just a few songs, just ask them what they like and work from there.
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Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 1:32 am
Areleklo: I wouldn't mind that idea, but i want to make sure he knows the notes on the guitar really well first.
freshyjazz: Sweet, thanks for the song suggestions, i'll look into them and see what i'll teach.
Well i think i got the first lesson sorted, i only got 40 mins to begin with, so here's my plan for time. I don't know exactly how much knowledge he already has on guitars, so it's all going to be very basic to begin with, gotta cover the fundamentals. If he already knows this stuff then i'll teach him a Greenday song, probably 'Warning' or 'Blister in the sun' by Violent Femmes.
Lesson 1:
-5-10mins: Talk to him, see what music he likes, and what he wants to achieve with his guitar playing.
-5 mins: String names
-10 mins: Reading guitar tablature
-10-15mins: Names of notes on the inlays and methods of memorisation (GAB, CDE in particular)
-Remaining time: 'Musical alphabet' A, A#, B, C, C#, D, D#... etc. Specifically say there is no B or E sharp. {Does anyone know the exact reason why? I know its got something to do with frequencies and scales?}
Homework: Give picture of guitar fretboard for him to fill out with notes from the musical alphabet.
Lesson 2:
20 mins: Teach heart of gold
10 mins: Strumming patterns/playing with a metronome, or foot tapping.
Remainder: Make sure he knows the chords C, A, G, E, and D, and tell him it will be pretty important for later on. (caged method)
Homework: Practice song with metronome.
He's a really smart kid, so i know he is going to bombard me with questions on everything. I just gotta be sure to give him some things he likes to keep him involved.
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Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 2:16 pm
`Roguey Areleklo: I wouldn't mind that idea, but i want to make sure he knows the notes on the guitar really well first. freshyjazz: Sweet, thanks for the song suggestions, i'll look into them and see what i'll teach. Well i think i got the first lesson sorted, i only got 40 mins to begin with, so here's my plan for time. I don't know exactly how much knowledge he already has on guitars, so it's all going to be very basic to begin with, gotta cover the fundamentals. If he already knows this stuff then i'll teach him a Greenday song, probably 'Warning' or 'Blister in the sun' by Violent Femmes. Lesson 1: -5-10mins: Talk to him, see what music he likes, and what he wants to achieve with his guitar playing. -5 mins: String names -10 mins: Reading guitar tablature -10-15mins: Names of notes on the inlays and methods of memorisation (GAB, CDE in particular) -Remaining time: 'Musical alphabet' A, A#, B, C, C#, D, D#... etc. Specifically say there is no B or E sharp. {Does anyone know the exact reason why? I know its got something to do with frequencies and scales?} Homework: Give picture of guitar fretboard for him to fill out with notes from the musical alphabet. Lesson 2: 20 mins: Teach heart of gold 10 mins: Strumming patterns/playing with a metronome, or foot tapping. Remainder: Make sure he knows the chords C, A, G, E, and D, and tell him it will be pretty important for later on. (caged method) Homework: Practice song with metronome. He's a really smart kid, so i know he is going to bombard me with questions on everything. I just gotta be sure to give him some things he likes to keep him involved. i do, first off you need to know there are only 12 notes, it goes a bflat b c csharp d eflat e f fsharp g gsharp, often times when people go down though they say the scale differently to make it easier, though i think it just makes it more complex, relative notes basically, for instance fsharp going down from the scal can be called f flat, relative notes, even though there are only 12 notes. make sense any?
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Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 11:39 pm
I know someone has already said to teach him sheet music first, and you've already said no, but I REALLY think you should teach him sheet music before TAB first. A lot of instrument teachers seem to think that the theory on paper is not so important, IT IS.
If you look in beginner guitar books for school kids, they dont have TAB in them, not even the simplest ones. The books that DO have TAB are designed for adults who tend to find it harder to pick up notes on a page. You need to know your theory, the alternative is knowing what every single note o the fretboard sounds like. You evenually get this anyway, but startin just like that can be hard.
I reccomend you you make him buy a book, or at least a display folder for him to keep photo-copied pages in.
I have almost 20 books that you could use in classes, so just ask me if your having trouble finding them yourself...
and no im NOT a theory freak, and i DONT play classical guitar. I just dont want your new student to be your last or to grow up into some loser that eriously does't know any theory and has to do it the hard way.
oh and how old is your student?
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Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 7:13 am
I don't know for sure but i'm guessing about 14-15? He should know all notes from the treble clef, since it's in the syllabus for high school students.
Aye, can you recommend an easy song or exercise for sheet music, which isn't "Mary had a little lamb" or something?
I admit, i only just started reading sheet music on guitar only 3 or so months ago, and i'm not too good at it just yet. I did sight read for piano when i was younger, but it's a bit more complicated on guitar. I am picking it up, but i'm not at a comfortable level with it just yet.
I guess it also has something to do with how i was taught, i've had two tutors, one from a more professional and qualified level, and my current who is attending a music college. Neither of them taught me to read sheet music, both started me on TAB, working our way from there.
I'm not blaming them or trying to make excuses or anything, because i am a bit of a slacko at times. haha
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Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 6:51 pm
`Roguey I don't know for sure but i'm guessing about 14-15? He should know all notes from the treble clef, since it's in the syllabus for high school students. Aye, can you recommend an easy song or exercise for sheet music, which isn't "Mary had a little lamb" or something? I admit, i only just started reading sheet music on guitar only 3 or so months ago, and i'm not too good at it just yet. I did sight read for piano when i was younger, but it's a bit more complicated on guitar. I am picking it up, but i'm not at a comfortable level with it just yet. I guess it also has something to do with how i was taught, i've had two tutors, one from a more professional and qualified level, and my current who is attending a music college. Neither of them taught me to read sheet music, both started me on TAB, working our way from there. I'm not blaming them or trying to make excuses or anything, because i am a bit of a slacko at times. haha i't would be a lot easier to sight read piano than guitar, the note arrangement jumps around on the sheet with guitar, and some spots you can hit the same note with the e and string and even lower, so there are several paths you can take, plus guitar sounds an octave lower too i think, with a piano it's just the 12 notes in a row. same thing with guitar but the string arrangement does jump around
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Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 2:59 am
The simplised version of 'Yellow subamarine' by beatles
songs you can find in just beginner books are like
-hall of the mountain king, i actually memorised this one when I was startin out biggrin
-greensleeves
-all those religious songs that everyone really hates
-and all those goddamit christmas faucking carols
oh and start him out reading music in first position, dont ever let his first finger leave the first fret, until he's learnt it all fluently. then make him learn a whole lot of songs again in fifth position, you'll have problems with Bb, but don't tell him 'till he figures it out. Then make him use the same Bb position for the whole song, other wise he'll stumble when he tries to get it.
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 7:53 pm
A girl in my class asked me to teach her guitar. It was hard to deal with since a)she was my age b)she had been trying to teach herself for a while and developed bad habits she wouldn't let me correct.
anyway
start off with music notation. If the kid learns to identify a note with it's position on sheet music, then it will be easier for the kid to remember. It's like learning a new language where you identify stuff with a word.
Plus teach finger exercises with up and down picking, it'll help the kid learn how to play faster.
After learning chords, well if you know yourself how to, try teaching him finger picking (classical) guitar. It will make playing songs like "Good Riddance" easy to play.
hope that helped!
oh and a good starter book to try when it comes to real songs is Weezer's first album (the blue one). The songs are pretty basic and easy to learn.
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