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 Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 1:24 pm
Please read. biggrin
http://www.gaiaonline.com/forum/morality-and-religion/why-there-doesn-t-have-to-be-one-true-religion/t.38104433/
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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 12:13 am
Yup.
But I think it's more fun to kill each other, don't you? rolleyes
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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 6:14 am
Lethkhar Yup. But I think it's more fun to kill each other, don't you? rolleyes Yes of course it is. mrgreen rolleyes
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Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 4:24 pm
So you're saying that God just shows himself differently to different cultures?
That's Ba'hai. However, the ten commandments say something completely different:
Exodus 20:3
"You shall have no other gods before me."
I think that's just wishful thinking on their part.
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Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 4:34 pm
GuardianAngel44 So you're saying that God just shows himself differently to different cultures? That's Ba'hai. However, the ten commandments say something completely different: Exodus 20:3 "You shall have no other gods before me." I think that's just wishful thinking on their part. But what she's suggesting is that there are no "other gods", really. What I mean to say is that Shiva, Vishnu, and Brahma are really the same God as Christianity. So believing in an worshipping them is not having any other Gods before the Christian one, since they are one and the same. The Unitarian approach removes a lot of the problems I have with Christian theology. It, for the most part, makes sense and actually represents what I see as a just God. Of course, it raises a couple of new problems, but they're a lot more minor than those associated with a single religions being correct.
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Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 7:28 pm
Lethkhar GuardianAngel44 So you're saying that God just shows himself differently to different cultures? That's Ba'hai. However, the ten commandments say something completely different: Exodus 20:3 "You shall have no other gods before me." I think that's just wishful thinking on their part. But what she's suggesting is that there are no "other gods", really. What I mean to say is that Shiva, Vishnu, and Brahma are really the same God as Christianity. So believing in an worshipping them is not having any other Gods before the Christian one, since they are one and the same. The Unitarian approach removes a lot of the problems I have with Christian theology. It, for the most part, makes sense and actually represents what I see as a just God. Of course, it raises a couple of new problems, but they're a lot more minor than those associated with a single religions being correct. Exactly what I just said. God shows himself differently to other cultures. But there is a flaw in that thinking: If God was Allah, Vishnu, Brahma, and all those other gods, then why did he tell the Israelittes not to worship them?
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Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 12:44 am
GuardianAngel44 Lethkhar GuardianAngel44 So you're saying that God just shows himself differently to different cultures? That's Ba'hai. However, the ten commandments say something completely different: Exodus 20:3 "You shall have no other gods before me." I think that's just wishful thinking on their part. But what she's suggesting is that there are no "other gods", really. What I mean to say is that Shiva, Vishnu, and Brahma are really the same God as Christianity. So believing in an worshipping them is not having any other Gods before the Christian one, since they are one and the same. The Unitarian approach removes a lot of the problems I have with Christian theology. It, for the most part, makes sense and actually represents what I see as a just God. Of course, it raises a couple of new problems, but they're a lot more minor than those associated with a single religions being correct. Exactly what I just said. God shows himself differently to other cultures. But there is a flaw in that thinking: If God was Allah, Vishnu, Brahma, and all those other gods, then why did he tell the Israelittes not to worship them? Did God specifically mention Shiva, Vishnu, and Brahma? Perhaps He is referring to making yourself into a god. Or maybe there are a select few religions that are made up (Which is incredibly probable. Any Scientologists in the room?) Or perhaps it's a translation error. I'm not saying there aren't flaws with Unitarian thinking; I'm just saying it's easier for me to reconcile and, honestly, I find it a lot more plausible.
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Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 8:47 am
If you just focus on God then this idea is easy to understand. But if you look at how these other religions deal with Jesus, you'll see that many of them don't agree. Take Islam for example, Jesus was a prophet and nothing more. Do we really worship the same God since I believe Jesus was God? He is the difference between Christianity and every other religion.
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Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 5:26 pm
Combat Chuckles If you just focus on God then this idea is easy to understand. But if you look at how these other religions deal with Jesus, you'll see that many of them don't agree. Take Islam for example, Jesus was a prophet and nothing more. Do we really worship the same God since I believe Jesus was God? He is the difference between Christianity and every other religion. "Just a prophet" is kind of an oxymoron. stare Jesus is the most quoted prophet in the Qur'an. I think you agree with Muslims. They believe in God, and you believe in a specific incarnation of God. Bottom line is: You both believe in God.
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Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 1:07 pm
Well, I'm pretty sure that any religion that worships multiple gods is out of the running when thinking that God introduced himself to them. But Islam, Christianity, the Jews, Mormons, Baha'i, they all worship one god, and they all realize that they worship one god, and most of them recognize that they worship the SAME God. People who worship a single higher power without a name, people who worship the creator of themselves and the universe but never gave it a form, what about them? I'm not sure if Christianity is the 'true' path to God. There are so many other people out there who follow essentially the same rules as we were given as Christians. You know: don't steal, don't lie, don't cheat, don't kill, worship me. Honestly, I can't tell you for sure that my way is the ONLY way. All I can say is that I don't want it any other way for myself.
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Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 4:31 pm
ryuu_chan Well, I'm pretty sure that any religion that worships multiple gods is out of the running when thinking that God introduced himself to them. But Islam, Christianity, the Jews, Mormons, Baha'i, they all worship one god, and they all realize that they worship one god, and most of them recognize that they worship the SAME God. People who worship a single higher power without a name, people who worship the creator of themselves and the universe but never gave it a form, what about them? I'm not sure if Christianity is the 'true' path to God. There are so many other people out there who follow essentially the same rules as we were given as Christians. You know: don't steal, don't lie, don't cheat, don't kill, worship me. Honestly, I can't tell you for sure that my way is the ONLY way. All I can say is that I don't want it any other way for myself. What if polytheism is just a different manifestation of monotheism? Besides. many polytheistic religions recognize a single higher power that rules in some way over all of the other gods.
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 5:52 am
Lethkhar "Just a prophet" is kind of an oxymoron. stare Jesus is the most quoted prophet in the Qur'an. But He's not the Son of God to them as He is to us. That alone is enough to completely separate the two religions.
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 7:00 am
Lethkhar What if polytheism is just a different manifestation of monotheism? Besides. many polytheistic religions recognize a single higher power that rules in some way over all of the other gods. Oh, I realize that. But there's a large difference between the one guy who can do it all and a bunch of guys that can't cross into each other's territory.
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 10:14 am
Ryuu, think about it this way. Polytheism could quite possibly be just another way for humanity to make sense of the Divine. Christians divide the Divine into three parts: the Father, the Son and the Light. The Celts divided the Divine into Danu (the creator) giving birth to The Dagda (the good god/the son) and Brigid (the fire and the light). Many of the Native Americans recognise the Great Spirit and its messengers. Tying into God (our God) showing himself to everyone differently, polytheism, in my opinion, is our way of putting sense into the chaos that is the Divine. What are the Tuatha de Dannan but gods or angels created by Danu? What are the angels but creatures created by Adonai? The Divine...is. God...is. To not recognise the possibility of truth in other faiths is not only closing off ourselves to growing, but deliberately standing still in our willingness to learn. In another thought, polytheism, or gods, could be our complicated interpretation of God. Facets, personalities, ways to describe his actions. We're all trying to make sense of the spiritual, something that simply, can't be made sense of...
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 2:15 pm
Combat Chuckles Lethkhar "Just a prophet" is kind of an oxymoron. stare Jesus is the most quoted prophet in the Qur'an. But He's not the Son of God to them as He is to us. That alone is enough to completely separate the two religions. Aren't we all God's children? Both religions have this in common. Jesus in the son of God in both religions.
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