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 Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 5:49 pm
Shalom! I am a vegan and I wanted to meet some other vegan jews.
I also want to find a good vegan challah recipe.
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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 7:21 pm
I didn't think there was such a thing as vegan challah. After all, isn't challah egg-bread, after all? Taking the eggs out...would make it not challah.
Not that I've got anything against vegans.
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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 5:19 am
I'm not vegan, but I do have a tip if you're looking for vegan challah. Yes, it exists. It's called water challah. Do a Google search for "water challah recipe" and look there. You might also narrow your search by adding the word Sephardi to the search. (I'd give you my own recipe, except that I don't use one. I've got a good friend who's a baker, and he makes enough challot for his family and mine, and I buy enough wine for his family and mine, and his wife and I make a trade before Shabbat begins.)
See, Sephardim, like myself, don't put anything into our bread recipe except flour, water, yeast, and a tiny bit of salt (and occasionally a tiny bit of oil). This is because mixing anything else into it would turn it from bread to cake, according to the Sephardic understanding of the halachot (Jewish laws) on bread. We can't make the hamotzi blessing on the challah that contains eggs, sugar (more than about a teaspoon, anyway -- you need this amount in order for the yeast to get excited and start working, but you could also use honey, agave nectar/syrup, maple syrup, or anything else), saffron, and the like.
You also don't have to brush an egg wash over the top of the challah. That's only for a cosmetic purpose, to make it look shiny. It's not necessary at all.
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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 6:05 am
Divash I'm not vegan, but I do have a tip if you're looking for vegan challah. Yes, it exists. It's called water challah. Do a Google search for "water challah recipe" and look there. You might also narrow your search by adding the word Sephardi to the search. (I'd give you my own recipe, except that I don't use one. I've got a good friend who's a baker, and he makes enough challot for his family and mine, and I buy enough wine for his family and mine, and his wife and I make a trade before Shabbat begins.) See, Sephardim, like myself, don't put anything into our bread recipe except flour, water, yeast, and a tiny bit of salt (and occasionally a tiny bit of oil). This is because mixing anything else into it would turn it from bread to cake, according to the Sephardic understanding of the halachot (Jewish laws) on bread. We can't make the hamotzi blessing on the challah that contains eggs, sugar (more than about a teaspoon, anyway -- you need this amount in order for the yeast to get excited and start working, but you could also use honey, agave nectar/syrup, maple syrup, or anything else), saffron, and the like. You also don't have to brush an egg wash over the top of the challah. That's only for a cosmetic purpose, to make it look shiny. It's not necessary at all.
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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 12:28 pm
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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 5:27 pm
Thanks that will help alot.
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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 5:50 am
I hope so. Good Shabbos / Shabbat shalom.
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11, 15, 63, 10, 5, 62
Total: 166 (6-600)
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Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 5:31 pm
I wonder what a vegan Pesach is like.
Vegan Sedar Plate:
Bitter herbs
Salt water
Matzos
Charoset
Uhhh... That's it?
Well, you could use pictures of an egg and a shank bone?
ninja ninja ninja ninja ninja ninja sweatdrop
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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:37 am
CrazieDoily I wonder what a vegan Pesach is like. Vegan Sedar Plate: Bitter herbs Salt water Matzos Charoset Uhhh... That's it? Well, you could use pictures of an egg and a shank bone? ninja ninja ninja ninja ninja ninja sweatdrop I've made Pesach seder for several vegan friends while in college. We always used a beet in place of the shank bone. In fact, a beet was used often in the Middle Ages in place of a shank bone, so that Jews could avoid the blood libel (the accusation that we were using the bones of Christian babies for our rites). For the egg, I use an egg and let a non-vegan (like myself) eat it later, or else we use one of those big plastic L'eggs eggs -- you know, the ones they put the pantyhose in -- or a plastic Easter egg (which is funny, in its own way). One person I know uses an orange or any other round fruit. An egg is a symbol of femininity and fertility, being round and also a symbol of life and renewal; a fruit, which contains the seed of its own rebirth, is just as potent a symbol.
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Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 1:40 pm
An avocado has been used to substitute for eggs in several vegan recipes. Avocados have a high enough fat & protein content to effectively act as emulsifiers in recipes, so why not a seder plate substitution as well?
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Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 3:59 pm
That's a terrific idea, Neuf. They're also shaped like eggs, so that would keep the egg-analogy going pretty well. I like this idea. I'm going to share it with my vegetarian and vegan friends.
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Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 9:23 am
One thing though... the egg is supposed to represent the destruction of Solomon's Temple and the diaspora. Which is why the egg is roasted, a symbol of death and sterility.
With an avocado... there's no real easy way to get the pit out while maintaining the egg shape. You could always split it in half and take the pit out, and watch it slowly brown over the course of the Seder. That's a good enough symbol I guess.
As for the shank bone. Well that's the representation of the actual meal. Goodness knows when we have chicken for seder, a wishbone, or drumstick makes it on the seder plate. Lamb chops means a rib bone and so on.
So while attending a Seder about a decade ago, at a friend's house, they were vegetarians and belonged to a Reconstructionist synagogue, I couldn't help notice an orange on the Seder plate in place of a shank bone. I asked them, in which the host said to me...
"Well you see, my grandfather is a chassid, and he never agreed with modern Judaism. He once said, 'Having a synagogue with a female rabbi, is like having an orange on The Seder Plate.' So in his honor, we have both a female rabbi at our temple and an orange on our Seder plate."
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Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 4:05 pm
im a flexitarian
and yes that is real!
pretty much no meats but you can eat sea food and animal by-products
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