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 Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 1:01 pm
 This is for a show this weekend called "Feedback".
It is based off an idea I got reading PostSecret.
The secret was about having x-rated conversations in public in foreign cities so no one knows what you are saying.
The speech bubble is going to be line drawings from different sexual positions (like from those little booklets you can buy from gas stations or weirdos on the street).
The image in the background is transfered there. It is a graffiti wall in Holland. It is a Creative Commons image that is meant to be taken and used and added upon.
Its hard to see some of the lines right now in the scan. I did it quickly last night. I need to get as much of it completed tonight. I have until Thursday at the latest to get it to my contact for the show.
I'll try and show you my progress tonight.
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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 8:04 pm
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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 8:10 pm
Always acrylic... but this is technically a mixed medium since I did a print transfer....
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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 11:45 pm
How does a print transfer work? It looks like it'll be really interesting, by the way. Do you always work under such tight deadlines?
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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 5:48 am
I always seem to have such tight deadlines... every once in awhile I get to work on something for about 3 weeks. When I was in school we had to have a painting done every 2 weeks for senior studio (and then whatever we had to do for other classes on top of it). I am somewhat used to it by now.
I do wish I didn't have so much to do at work so I could take some time off and complete this, however.
Print transfers are really neat to use if you work on the computer but then want to paint as well. You need to first reverse the image on the computer then print it out on a laser jet printer. It cannot be ink jet. It won't work. I believe xeroxes work as well (but I have only be told, I have never tried it). Coat the surface you are transferring the image onto with an acrylic medium (I always use gloss medium). Lay the image facedown on it and burnish it making sure that the entire image is getting well attached to the medium. Let it dry COMPLETELY, then soak the paper with water and peel it off VERY carefully. This process can take a while. You'll have to rub the layers of paper off and you have to be very careful to not take the image off as well. When I get close to getting all the paper off, I make sure its all wet and then put a coat of gloss on it. It keeps those remaining paper fibers translucent. It gets too easy to destroy your image if you try and get ALL the paper off.
Its a real trial and error kind of process. Test it out and you'll get a feel for it.
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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 6:12 am
... I had no idea you could even do that.
Wow.
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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 6:25 am
I had a friend at school who taught it to me.
He would make these really crazy images and would start off working on them in Illustrator and then transfer them to wood and paint them.
They were amazing.
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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 11:10 am
That's a pretty wicked idea. I remember doing print transfers in highschool. That was so much fun. Uhg, I miss the traditional art related things we did. It's all digital now. 3D is ruining my brain. :[
What's funny about that subject is that I have xxx related conversations in public usually most of the time. ._.;
And on internet chats. >>
How will the viewers know it's in a foreign city? (country?) Like are they speaking a different language and stuff like that? O:
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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 11:32 am
Siin Adonai That's a pretty wicked idea. I remember doing print transfers in highschool. That was so much fun. Uhg, I miss the traditional art related things we did. It's all digital now. 3D is ruining my brain. :[
What's funny about that subject is that I have xxx related conversations in public usually most of the time. ._.;
And on internet chats. >>
How will the viewers know it's in a foreign city? (country?) Like are they speaking a different language and stuff like that? O:
Originally, the wall was more obviously Dutch, but you can't see the type anymore. Oh well.
The real clue is that the old man is walking by without noticing what the girls are talking about when they aren't whispering.
If it was for an editorial, I would have been more heavy-handed with the message. I like making it a puzzle when it comes to a showing in a gallery.
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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 12:20 pm
i want to get into print transfers sooo bad idk if i have a laser printer my dad probably does though
but anyways this looks really cool/interesting i cant wait to see your progess smile
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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 9:27 am
Print transfer's are the bestests.
We used to do then in high school with black and white xerox copies and old national geographic magazines. You don't necessarily need a laser printer.
I think it has to do with the quality of the ink and how it's bonded to the paper. Anything in the newspaper also works well.
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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 9:36 am
Man you learn such interesting things browsing this forum.
Your picture looks really good so far, comp. wise. Are you going to paint it like your signature piece (you painting the rabbits) or go for something elsE?
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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 10:28 am
Oh yes, I forgot. Magazines work too.
It totally has to do with the kind of print it is.
Ink jets won't work is my main point... I did use and ink jet on my Aphex Twin painting, though. I wanted the 1s and 0s to not be so crisp.
And it is going to be somewhat like my sig painting, but probably more like this painting or this painting. I am working on a professional portfolio that mixes rendering of faces with graphic styles like I have been doing. That is what my professors told me to focus on in my Exit Interview for graduation and I agree.
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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 12:06 pm
If you were going to do this again, there are probably other ways to get the message across without being heavy handed; for example, having the area be more crowded, or having someone else be close enough to be in on the conversation with the wrong expression for it. The girls' expressions could be more scandalous also. At a glance, the guy in this picture might just be out of earshot, or not paying attention, not necessarily foreign, and before you explained what would be in the bubble I didn't read any message in this piece at all. I do like the image though, and I like the concept, though somehow I think it could be stronger.
Your process is madness. I don't even have the patience to do linework anymore, so it amazes me the lengths some people go to get the look they want. It's excellent. 3nodding
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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 12:18 pm
I totally agree with you.
That is actually much closer to my original concept, but sometimes when I'm under a tight time restriction, I have to make choices to get it done the fastest way possible.
But I did decide to sit this one out to take my time to finish it...
The main thing I wanted to do was create an image within an image with the speech bubble. Something about that stuck in my mind. Now that I have the speech bubble done, I realize that I don't know if I can show my progress since this is a PG13 site...
Its all very soft-core, but its still sexual acts. I really have no idea what PG13 actually means in terms of what we can show.
I'll either have to blur out that part of the painting, or I'll just have to nonchalantly put it on my website and not point it out...
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