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 Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 6:19 pm
Mediocre thread name aside, I'd like everyone's opinions on how you would go about getting a certain God or Goddesses' attention to help boost any magick-work. Information or links accompanied with your opinion works too, and I don't care if you're talking in general or focusing on specific deities.
That's about it; bring out those one-liners that'll leave 'em smitten.
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 6:26 pm
[semi-off-topic] I'm now wondering if I should have made you sign some sort of contract or something before volunteering to participate in your little experiment. You know, some sort of, "No bodily or psychological harm will come to me in the progress of this experiment," or something. If you're going to be evoking gods and s**t...I don't know if I'm ready to be visited by some sort of deity in my sleep. I'd probably try to kill it. Haha. [/tangent]
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 6:30 pm
DrasBrisingr [semi-off-topic] I'm now wondering if I should have made you sign some sort of contract or something before volunteering to participate in your little experiment. You know, some sort of, "No bodily or psychological harm will come to me in the progress of this experiment," or something. If you're going to be evoking gods and s**t...I don't know if I'm ready to be visited by some sort of deity in my sleep. I'd probably try to kill it. Haha. [/tangent] GREAT. gonk I have enough of those dreams on my own, don't you dare go trying to invoke something into my dreams. Well, you can, but YOU'RE going to reap the consequences of my uberly sarcastic behavior. scream And I ain't got no stinkin' one-liners. I don't use words when I connect, so it's more of a feeling. heart
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 6:33 pm
DrasBrisingr [semi-off-topic] I'm now wondering if I should have made you sign some sort of contract or something before volunteering to participate in your little experiment. You know, some sort of, "No bodily or psychological harm will come to me in the progress of this experiment," or something. If you're going to be evoking gods and s**t...I don't know if I'm ready to be visited by some sort of deity in my sleep. I'd probably try to kill it. Haha. [/tangent]
I can guarantee that I am not trying to cause physical or psychological harm in the experiment.
Edit: This topic's mainly here to stir up some activity in the guild, really. Yes, there's a God I'd like to get the attention of, but I can assure everyone it's for very relaxed reasons.
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 6:42 pm
Subrosian DrasBrisingr [semi-off-topic] I'm now wondering if I should have made you sign some sort of contract or something before volunteering to participate in your little experiment. You know, some sort of, "No bodily or psychological harm will come to me in the progress of this experiment," or something. If you're going to be evoking gods and s**t...I don't know if I'm ready to be visited by some sort of deity in my sleep. I'd probably try to kill it. Haha. [/tangent]
I can guarantee that I am not trying to cause physical or psychological harm in the experiment.Sorry. Didn't mean to wake the children, Subbykins.
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 6:50 pm
DrasBrisingr Subrosian DrasBrisingr [semi-off-topic] I'm now wondering if I should have made you sign some sort of contract or something before volunteering to participate in your little experiment. You know, some sort of, "No bodily or psychological harm will come to me in the progress of this experiment," or something. If you're going to be evoking gods and s**t...I don't know if I'm ready to be visited by some sort of deity in my sleep. I'd probably try to kill it. Haha. [/tangent]
I can guarantee that I am not trying to cause physical or psychological harm in the experiment.Sorry. Didn't mean to wake the children, Subbykins. I'm sorry I'm so oblivious...(watermelon-watermelon-watermelon!) but what does that expression mean?
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 6:52 pm
Keziah Rose DrasBrisingr Subrosian DrasBrisingr [semi-off-topic] I'm now wondering if I should have made you sign some sort of contract or something before volunteering to participate in your little experiment. You know, some sort of, "No bodily or psychological harm will come to me in the progress of this experiment," or something. If you're going to be evoking gods and s**t...I don't know if I'm ready to be visited by some sort of deity in my sleep. I'd probably try to kill it. Haha. [/tangent]
I can guarantee that I am not trying to cause physical or psychological harm in the experiment.Sorry. Didn't mean to wake the children, Subbykins. I'm sorry I'm so oblivious...(watermelon-watermelon-watermelon!) but what does that expression mean? I apologized for stirring things (you) up. I called him Subbykins, because that is his name, as proclaimed by a**l Jesus.
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 6:55 pm
DrasBrisingr Keziah Rose DrasBrisingr Subrosian DrasBrisingr [semi-off-topic] I'm now wondering if I should have made you sign some sort of contract or something before volunteering to participate in your little experiment. You know, some sort of, "No bodily or psychological harm will come to me in the progress of this experiment," or something. If you're going to be evoking gods and s**t...I don't know if I'm ready to be visited by some sort of deity in my sleep. I'd probably try to kill it. Haha. [/tangent]
I can guarantee that I am not trying to cause physical or psychological harm in the experiment.Sorry. Didn't mean to wake the children, Subbykins. I'm sorry I'm so oblivious...(watermelon-watermelon-watermelon!) but what does that expression mean? I apologized for stirring things (you) up. I called him Subbykins, because that is his name, as proclaimed by a**l Jesus. Gotcha! Subbykins is good...I was dubbed Roseypoo, which is NOT good. xd And no worries. The first time he mentioned the experiment, he told me "Don't worry", so I started worrying then. I was already unrest-ed. heart
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 7:49 pm
When I was studying ritual magic with the aid of deities, the popular way to do it was to look through mythology or folklore and find things that the particular deity liked. For instance, certain stones or fruits or the like. Then you call on that deity to get their attention and if they feel like it then they'd come.
Invoking a deity is like asking for them to come and help you and evoking a deity is more like you make the work area hospitable to them and they come of their own volition. Either way, I'd think you'd have to give them some reason to help you.
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 8:02 pm
Obscurus When I was studying ritual magic with the aid of deities, the popular way to do it was to look through mythology or folklore and find things that the particular deity liked. For instance, certain stones or fruits or the like. Then you call on that deity to get their attention and if they feel like it then they'd come. Invoking a deity is like asking for them to come and help you and evoking a deity is more like you make the work area hospitable to them and they come of their own volition. Either way, I'd think you'd have to give them some reason to help you.
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 9:53 pm
Subrosian Obscurus When I was studying ritual magic with the aid of deities, the popular way to do it was to look through mythology or folklore and find things that the particular deity liked. For instance, certain stones or fruits or the like. Then you call on that deity to get their attention and if they feel like it then they'd come. Invoking a deity is like asking for them to come and help you and evoking a deity is more like you make the work area hospitable to them and they come of their own volition. Either way, I'd think you'd have to give them some reason to help you. Maybe a middleman/woman? In Norse mythos, Idunn had some absolutely divine apples, literally. They were what kept the gods young and strong.
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 4:45 am
Offerings. Lots of offerings. *chuckles* I think that, as long as you don't offend anyone (say, for example, offering chicken or other meat from birds to Djehuty, whose sacred animal is an Ibis and thus all birds are taboo) then any offering will do. It's got to be a sacrifice, though. Something particularly given, that may even hurt you, the more valuable the better. Incense is a common offering, as are rocks and other shiny things, jewelry, money, foods, all of which are easily attainable. Make sure you don't touch whatever it is once you've offered it until you get the feeling that the God/Goddess doesn't want it any longer. Putting the offering on an altar or other sacred space might be a good idea, too.
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:33 am
Subrosian Obscurus When I was studying ritual magic with the aid of deities, the popular way to do it was to look through mythology or folklore and find things that the particular deity liked. For instance, certain stones or fruits or the like. Then you call on that deity to get their attention and if they feel like it then they'd come. Invoking a deity is like asking for them to come and help you and evoking a deity is more like you make the work area hospitable to them and they come of their own volition. Either way, I'd think you'd have to give them some reason to help you. I suppose at the end of the day it depends on what you think gods and goddesses are. I figure they're a personification of an idea taking the shape of a humanoid being so we can interact better with them, but that's just me. As for favorable sacrifice or condition, I don't think it matters so long as you try your best. There're so many myths about, y'know, the poor folk who were visited by the gods, but since they were so humble they couldn't offer much, but the gods nonetheless rewarded them. Off the top of my head, I recall Jesus' parable of the old woman offering two gold coins in the temple, and one where two greek ( ? ) gods did the aforementioned visiting thing. So, I don't think it's how much you give so much as it is to what degree you give something, if you follow. I've got an untried and untested idea that an act of concordance will put the gods in your favour. If you do things that resonate with the particular idea or concept of the god you're trying to communicate with, I think it should a) put you in the mindset of that idea and help you communicate, or b) make them like you. I slant towards the first idea. So, for example, if you wanted to talk to a god of wealth, you'd undertake actions that were specifically intended to resonate with wealth - if you want them to help you save money, then start putting some money away; if you want them to help you find awesome deals, do a walking mediation through a flea-market. That kind of thing. Think symbolic resonance. That's my toosense.
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 10:07 am
Mitsh I suppose at the end of the day it depends on what you think gods and goddesses are. I figure they're a personification of an idea taking the shape of a humanoid being so we can interact better with them, but that's just me. As for favorable sacrifice or condition, I don't think it matters so long as you try your best. There're so many myths about, y'know, the poor folk who were visited by the gods, but since they were so humble they couldn't offer much, but the gods nonetheless rewarded them. Off the top of my head, I recall Jesus' parable of the old woman offering two gold coins in the temple, and one where two greek ( ? ) gods did the aforementioned visiting thing. So, I don't think it's how much you give so much as it is to what degree you give something, if you follow. I've got an untried and untested idea that an act of concordance will put the gods in your favour. If you do things that resonate with the particular idea or concept of the god you're trying to communicate with, I think it should a) put you in the mindset of that idea and help you communicate, or b) make them like you. I slant towards the first idea. So, for example, if you wanted to talk to a god of wealth, you'd undertake actions that were specifically intended to resonate with wealth - if you want them to help you save money, then start putting some money away; if you want them to help you find awesome deals, do a walking mediation through a flea-market. That kind of thing. Think symbolic resonance. That's my toosense. All good ideas. I still have a lot to learn from the goddess I'm apparently hanging out with, though I may need to switch tracks for a little bit. I need a different kind of energy right now.
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:17 pm
Subrosian Obscurus When I was studying ritual magic with the aid of deities, the popular way to do it was to look through mythology or folklore and find things that the particular deity liked. For instance, certain stones or fruits or the like. Then you call on that deity to get their attention and if they feel like it then they'd come. Invoking a deity is like asking for them to come and help you and evoking a deity is more like you make the work area hospitable to them and they come of their own volition. Either way, I'd think you'd have to give them some reason to help you. You could offer apple juice maybe. A picture of an apple, dried apple chips, etc. etc. Or you could just do what Mitsh mentioned and do something that resonates with the god/goddess you're trying to contact. I read a ritual in a book once that called upon a deity by symbolically reenacting her myth of descent into the underworld. That might work too.
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