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 Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 3:36 am
Because most psychologists through the development of MBTI and typing theories have been Ns, the S bias has definitely shown. This has resulted in Ss having a very bad reputation:
-Practical
-Concrete
-Unimaginative
-Sticks to "tried and tested"
ect...
And Ns as
-Abstract
-Theoretical
-Esoteric
-Revolutionary
ect...
Now take the ISFP. ISFPs, the "Artist" type are imaginative enough, certainly. As well as ISFJs and ISTPs.
Describing Sensing and iNtuiting to most Ss, the Ss would all identify as Ns.
People have an idea that Ss can't do N stuff, that Ns are somehow better. That's not true! iNtuitives and Sensors can both do both!
I find the forest/trees iNtuiting/Sensing thing very good, because it helps to explain how Sensors can see the "big picture" just as well as iNtuitives.
http://www.interstrength.com/articles/nifromse.html
For example, many people think that Darwin was an ISTP. An S.
Your thoughts.
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 9:54 am
Both are very much necessary. I suspect that the large percentage of S means that a large portion of society being sensors is conducive to survival, which makes sense.
Being abstract is very nice and everything, but I am always distracted. Even a group of INTPs has to admit that they'd not survive long stranded on an island.
Also, ISTPs are easily mistyped as INTPs, partly from testing bias and partly because the description sounds much nicer. Far too many compare not N v. S, but NP v. SJ, which is very different. SJs are much more traditional, concrete. An SP isn't going to stick to the rules. An ESxP will be too busy going on a crazy roadtrip, hitchhiking, and skydiving. I think I suddenly know my grandma's type...
I also kinda think that the bias toward Ns may be to make up for general problems in society with them. Most NPs have no idea what they'd do without the internet.
And I think that the difference between an N and an S in art is not so apparent. Perhaps Ns are more likely to be surrealists, but N and S are very much a spectrum.
They list the positive traits of a healthy N, while the negative traits of an unhealthy S.
A healthy N is creative... but an unhealthy one is probably anti-society, overly cynical, out of it, unemployed, and living in his parents basement.
A healthy S is able to use ideas and apply them. They are practical. How else can an INxPs idea be used? Usually working together is the key to success.
All that being said, anyone who is balanced and comfortable with themself has much more of either N or S positive traits.
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 1:38 pm
Exactly.
But even amongst SJs there are variations.
But I agree with you exactly when you say people too often compare SJs and NPs.
I admit that I did type a girl in my class as INTP and she tested as ISTP.
I was surprised because she doesn't fit the S descriptions at all but the more I think about it the more I realize that the test typed her perfectly accurately, and she fits all the ISTP profiles, the Funtions (and function orders) and basically everything to do with ISTPs.
Now, she is very intelligent and yet more proof that there is no difference between N and S intelligence - except that it is often shown in different ways.
It's the same for ISFPs being mistyped as INFPs.
I typed a girl in my class as either INFP or ISFP, and she turned out to be ISFP. I typed her as INFP first and ISFP second in the first place because she was always daydreaming, and she was very shy and creative. (No, I don't go around typing everyone. It was just these two people xD) But, daydreaming and being shy and creative is as much ISFP as INFP. And we both have dominant Fi.
Actually ISFPs tend to be nicer people than INFPs (eg less self centered, lazy ect) xD
Lol.
She's very artistic, but whereas ISFPs prefer crafty arts (eg clay, textiles, abstract paintings ect) INFPs prefer writing and fine arts.
She is very into sewing and decorating her clothes with coloured patches and buttons. She's the type of person that just gets on with their own thing in the background and is nice to everyone. (Although it's really hard to get to know her.) But you get the feeling there's more to her, if you know what I mean. They say ISFPs are one of the most misunderstood types.
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