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Callibretto

PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 7:24 pm


I hit level 48.. I'm kind of torn.. I'm excited about 50, yet utterly bored with this character.. And STILL yet feel that he is to high level to be worth giving up..
Soloing is like pounding my head against a brick wall.. I kill and kill and kill and even when rested, only get the tinyest fraction of an xp chunk each time.. Quests give me a bar if i'm lucky and take way to long.. Basically the only way to get decent experience is by partying which is seldom an option because nobody ever seems to want to group.. I think I will probably keep going with this toon just for the sake of being so close to blackrock.. but its not ever fun to play him unless I'm instincing..

*emo tear*
PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 7:38 pm


get used to it, that comes with being a higher level. if you leveled up every ten kills like you do at level 1 the game wouldn't be fun and we wouldn't be able to laugh at people who cry their sweet, sweet emo tears that their quests barely give them 5% of their entire experience for that level.

Kiloran


Callibretto

PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 7:50 pm


Kiloran
get used to it, that comes with being a higher level. if you leveled up every ten kills like you do at level 1 the game wouldn't be fun and we wouldn't be able to laugh at people who cry their sweet, sweet emo tears that their quests barely give them 5% of their entire experience for that level.

*teh sob*
PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 8:49 pm


respec shadow (if you want to do instances you can still heal fine till high level ones)

http://www.wowwiki.com/Zones_by_level

use that
get all the quests in the zones youre in
do them all at once (not doing one then running back turning it in etc)

if you do nothing but quest you can get a level every 2 hours, maybe faster

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 12:22 am


QUEST
PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 1:38 am


Starcus
respec shadow (if you want to do instances you can still heal fine till high level ones)

http://www.wowwiki.com/Zones_by_level

use that
get all the quests in the zones youre in
do them all at once (not doing one then running back turning it in etc)

if you do nothing but quest you can get a level every 2 hours, maybe faster



Its true.
Number one, if you're not shadow, dont expect to get anywhere soloing, its only needless hair-ripping if you're holy or disc.
Number two, grab three or four quests that are in roughly the same area, do them all, hand them in at the same time. The exp will seem a LOT faster.
Also if you like instancing, do as many of em as you can. Queue up for a couple of em while you quest. By the time you finish a few quests you'll probably have a group.
By the by, you can still heal pretty decently as shadow in every instance up to lv 68-70, just make sure you get a few decent healing items along the way. Anyone tells you different, smack em or something.

Good places to quest @ 50+:
-Azshara
-Felwood
-Un'goro (if you can handle getting stomped randomly by giant crusading dinos every hour or so this place is ******** wonderful for leveling)

Karnokoto


Chibibar

PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 6:46 am


normally I would go to instances smile you be surprise on how much people need a decent priest and tanks
PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 9:00 am


Get used to it. Leveling takes time regardless of what class and spec you are. It's going to take longer the higher you are too. It takes time and effort to get to 70. If it didn't take any time or effort, being level 70 wouldn't mean much. And if the reward doesn't mean much, it wouldn't be worth getting.

If you want to solo, I would suggest being shadow. If you want to run instances, you can be holy or discipline. Healers are often needed more than DPS in instances. If you have trouble finding a group, look for a guild that has lots of people your level or use the looking for group channel.

LorienLlewellyn

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fahsky
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 11:34 am


Pair everything Karnakoto said along with making an alt char solely for holding your AH/bank/stuff to DE/whatever crap. You save a ton of time by mailing off crap instead of running to an FP, flying to a town, running to the bank or standing at the AH pricing your junk to sell. Save it all on the alt, sell it on Tuesdays.
PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 1:46 pm


Karnokoto
Starcus
respec shadow (if you want to do instances you can still heal fine till high level ones)

http://www.wowwiki.com/Zones_by_level

use that
get all the quests in the zones youre in
do them all at once (not doing one then running back turning it in etc)

if you do nothing but quest you can get a level every 2 hours, maybe faster



Its true.
Number one, if you're not shadow, dont expect to get anywhere soloing, its only needless hair-ripping if you're holy or disc.
Number two, grab three or four quests that are in roughly the same area, do them all, hand them in at the same time. The exp will seem a LOT faster.
Also if you like instancing, do as many of em as you can. Queue up for a couple of em while you quest. By the time you finish a few quests you'll probably have a group.
By the by, you can still heal pretty decently as shadow in every instance up to lv 68-70, just make sure you get a few decent healing items along the way. Anyone tells you different, smack em or something.

Good places to quest @ 50+:
-Azshara
-Felwood
-Un'goro (if you can handle getting stomped randomly by giant crusading dinos every hour or so this place is ******** wonderful for leveling)


I disagree with the first part. You don't need to be shadow in order to solo very well. I prefer going Discipline for Soloing purposes purely for the fact of the "Improved Wand" talent which is one of the best soloing talents for the priest. Though you may lose 'fast-killing' with Disc, you don't however need to waste water on downtime. As well to that, Disc Spec is very good for healing, so you gain more benefit from healing as a Disc over Shadow.

With Improved Wand, and a good spell cycle, killing monsters are no problem. Shield, Holy Fire, SW razz , Smite or Mind Blast, then Wand til mob is dead.

At least that's my opinion on the matter.

PrototypeHastur


Karnokoto

PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 4:02 pm


PrototypeHastur
Karnokoto
Starcus
respec shadow (if you want to do instances you can still heal fine till high level ones)

http://www.wowwiki.com/Zones_by_level

use that
get all the quests in the zones youre in
do them all at once (not doing one then running back turning it in etc)

if you do nothing but quest you can get a level every 2 hours, maybe faster



Its true.
Number one, if you're not shadow, dont expect to get anywhere soloing, its only needless hair-ripping if you're holy or disc.
Number two, grab three or four quests that are in roughly the same area, do them all, hand them in at the same time. The exp will seem a LOT faster.
Also if you like instancing, do as many of em as you can. Queue up for a couple of em while you quest. By the time you finish a few quests you'll probably have a group.
By the by, you can still heal pretty decently as shadow in every instance up to lv 68-70, just make sure you get a few decent healing items along the way. Anyone tells you different, smack em or something.

Good places to quest @ 50+:
-Azshara
-Felwood
-Un'goro (if you can handle getting stomped randomly by giant crusading dinos every hour or so this place is ******** wonderful for leveling)


I disagree with the first part. You don't need to be shadow in order to solo very well. I prefer going Discipline for Soloing purposes purely for the fact of the "Improved Wand" talent which is one of the best soloing talents for the priest. Though you may lose 'fast-killing' with Disc, you don't however need to waste water on downtime. As well to that, Disc Spec is very good for healing, so you gain more benefit from healing as a Disc over Shadow.

With Improved Wand, and a good spell cycle, killing monsters are no problem. Shield, Holy Fire, SW razz , Smite or Mind Blast, then Wand til mob is dead.

At least that's my opinion on the matter.



One 5/5 talent in disc does not make you a disc priest.
Any good shadowpriest worth their skin has at LEAST 3/5 Imp Wand for the decreased downtime.
Other than that, you dont need anything in disc, and its not a healing spec, but holy is.
Disc is a supplementary tree, it goes great with holy or shadow. Theres no reason to spec full into it. Your damage and healing are inferior to that of a shadow/holy priest respectively, and the sub-par dps/healing is not worth bringing the spirit buff alone to a raid or a group.
Holy Fire is a waste of space on any action bar, so is smite, but less so.
Shadow means you spend less mana for more damage, and with the wand talent, you may never have to drink while grinding/farming.
I can farm without breaks in between mobs constantly for about an hour before I have to drink, and thats with almost no +spirit gear (+39 at the moment for me). Its very efficient.
But even with 5/5 Imp Wand with holy or disc, I wouldn't be able to do that, for one simple reason, and thats Spirit Tap, surprise surprise, in the shadow tree.
Summary: Shadow has the best dmg output for the least mana, and is very efficient when coupled with ONE (1) Discipline talent.
This one Discipline talent does not make the entire tree viable as a spec.

Ah, one more thing: You shouldn't need any talents to help with healing if you know what you're doing. Only in endgame 5mans does spec really matter in instances. And once you hit OL you'll get a lot of gear with +spelldmg/healing on them. My spelldmg is the exact same as my +healing. No problems here.
PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 5:24 pm


Karnokoto
PrototypeHastur
Karnokoto
Starcus
respec shadow (if you want to do instances you can still heal fine till high level ones)

http://www.wowwiki.com/Zones_by_level

use that
get all the quests in the zones youre in
do them all at once (not doing one then running back turning it in etc)

if you do nothing but quest you can get a level every 2 hours, maybe faster



Its true.
Number one, if you're not shadow, dont expect to get anywhere soloing, its only needless hair-ripping if you're holy or disc.
Number two, grab three or four quests that are in roughly the same area, do them all, hand them in at the same time. The exp will seem a LOT faster.
Also if you like instancing, do as many of em as you can. Queue up for a couple of em while you quest. By the time you finish a few quests you'll probably have a group.
By the by, you can still heal pretty decently as shadow in every instance up to lv 68-70, just make sure you get a few decent healing items along the way. Anyone tells you different, smack em or something.

Good places to quest @ 50+:
-Azshara
-Felwood
-Un'goro (if you can handle getting stomped randomly by giant crusading dinos every hour or so this place is ******** wonderful for leveling)


I disagree with the first part. You don't need to be shadow in order to solo very well. I prefer going Discipline for Soloing purposes purely for the fact of the "Improved Wand" talent which is one of the best soloing talents for the priest. Though you may lose 'fast-killing' with Disc, you don't however need to waste water on downtime. As well to that, Disc Spec is very good for healing, so you gain more benefit from healing as a Disc over Shadow.

With Improved Wand, and a good spell cycle, killing monsters are no problem. Shield, Holy Fire, SW razz , Smite or Mind Blast, then Wand til mob is dead.

At least that's my opinion on the matter.



One 5/5 talent in disc does not make you a disc priest.
Any good shadowpriest worth their skin has at LEAST 3/5 Imp Wand for the decreased downtime.
Other than that, you dont need anything in disc, and its not a healing spec, but holy is.
Disc is a supplementary tree, it goes great with holy or shadow. Theres no reason to spec full into it. Your damage and healing are inferior to that of a shadow/holy priest respectively, and the sub-par dps/healing is not worth bringing the spirit buff alone to a raid or a group.
Holy Fire is a waste of space on any action bar, so is smite, but less so.
Shadow means you spend less mana for more damage, and with the wand talent, you may never have to drink while grinding/farming.
I can farm without breaks in between mobs constantly for about an hour before I have to drink, and thats with almost no +spirit gear (+39 at the moment for me). Its very efficient.
But even with 5/5 Imp Wand with holy or disc, I wouldn't be able to do that, for one simple reason, and thats Spirit Tap, surprise surprise, in the shadow tree.
Summary: Shadow has the best dmg output for the least mana, and is very efficient when coupled with ONE (1) Discipline talent.
This one Discipline talent does not make the entire tree viable as a spec.

Ah, one more thing: You shouldn't need any talents to help with healing if you know what you're doing. Only in endgame 5mans does spec really matter in instances. And once you hit OL you'll get a lot of gear with +spelldmg/healing on them. My spelldmg is the exact same as my +healing. No problems here.


Depends what you heal as. As a Spirit priest, Disc is more important than Holy. But that is my preference because I'm old-school WoW player XP.

Anyway, A Disc-healer is actually very good. Much better than most people think. Its no match to a Holy/disc healer, as it was never meant to be, but Disc priests are some of the best support in raids. Of course, no real priest player would go 100% Disc, but putting alot of points into it is actually not too horrendous. Mental Agility complements ProM, Renew, and PW;S. Power Infusion makes a very good in-pinch support ability whether you use it on yourself or even better, the Main Healer. It's an over-looked ability, but I used it alot in my WoW career. And ever since they added Pain Suppression castable on anyone, I found it very useful for AoE-crazy mages and whatnot. [[At least on my Private server.]]

DPS-wise. What does a Priest ever need, BUT to wand in a solo-event? I sure hope no priest is wasting their time and mana with smite-spam and whatnot. [[Unless they are smite-whore build of course.]] Holy Fire isn't the strongest of abilities, but it's not totally worthless if you know when to use it. On a PvE standard, Holyfire brings out the most damage for the mana cost out of all priest spells, not including Mindflay since its a shadow talent that not all priest have. Standardly, Holyfire is the best opener than a Priest has.

Of course you don't NEED talents to help with healing. No one generally NEEDS any talents to do their job well. That is depended on the player's skill level. However, people need help, so there isn't anything wrong with getting more healing aids and utility whenever possible.

PrototypeHastur

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