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 Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:18 pm
my friend mike told me if I ever wanted to lead the bible study sometime that I can...so this is probably what I'm goin to talk about...so I'm curious my good mibs...what do you consider to be "right" and what do you consider to be "wrong"? ^-^
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Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 5:06 pm
Your question reminds me of the question many people ask--"How far is too far?", Anything wrong takes ones vision away from God. Any thing right takes ones vision towards God.
A Quick story:
John wanted to be a roster,but not just any roster, he wanted to be the roster walking on the white fence that sorounded his house. So John Climbed to the top of the fence and started walking on it. At first it was scary but after a few second it felt fun to John who was starting to be less carful. Sudenly the roster, who John was stalking, leaped from the fence causing the fence to wobble. John was caught unprepared and he fell. But, John didn't fall of on the left side of the fence or the right side of the fence. He fell right on the fence!
Explanation:
Walking the line is fun but eventually it will hurt you very bad (and not just the guys).
Hope you like my story,
Micah
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Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 6:38 pm
I fixed your thingy...you said "the right side or the right side" so I changed it to say left side so people wouldn't get confused....mibs ^o^
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Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 6:25 am
if you feel at all that the holy spirt is nagging you not to do it it is wrong
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Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 12:59 pm
I was reading about this the yesterday. I think it said something about the Holy Spirit leads you. It's in Romans I believe.
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 2:49 pm
Ultimately what is right and wrong is determined by God. God is the definition of good. Therefore, He is the standard for right and wrong. Basically, all your actions can either be good or bad; righteous or unrighteous; sinful or. . . not sinful. There is no gray area, though in our minds we may think so. Your actions either match or break God's standards.
How do we know His standards? For some of it, we can read His Word. But obviously, the Bible doesn't touch on every aspect of sin. That's where the Holy Spirit comes in. When we put our faith in Christ as our Savior, the Holy Spirit comes and lives inside of us. The Spirit acts as a personal guide. He tugs on our hearts, puts up warning signs, directs us, empowers us, and acts as our conscience. Of course, when you accept Christ, and when the Holy Spirit comes to live in you, you don't instantly know everything there is about right and wrong. It's a learning process. A lot of it, though, has to do with your willingness to allow God to point out sin in your life and change through the power of the Holy Spirit. Pray for God to show you areas in your life that He does not like. Pray for wisdom for situations in which you are unsure what to do. Ask and you will receive.
I hope that wasn't too long. sweatdrop
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Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 10:24 pm
If you're asking what different people use to guide their decisions on morality:
1) Nature versus nurture: Evolution versus upbringing.
2) Society and communities: morals from school and church
3) External sources: writings of philosophs or prophets (i.e. the Bible).
The Bible as a moral foundation? Not really.
The Old Testament is full of genocide and mass murders ordered by God and justified through xenophobic means. Jesus' message of "Love thy neighbor" wasn't even meant to apply to people outside his own group so Jesus' preaching can't be used to say that you should love "everyone." Through the Bible we learn about the Trinity and that they are one in the same. If the Bible shows that God is genocidal and Jesus is only concerned with the well-being of those in his own group, then how can we expect the Holy Ghost to be any different?
God as moral foundation? Not really.
God is absolute and whatever he decrees as right and wrong is only so because of his decree, not because of an underlying morality. Therefore, you cannot say that God is "moral." In Old Testament days gods were not ranked according to morality, they were ranked according to absolute power which is most definitely not the same thing.
Church community as moral foundation? Why not?
Your church community bases morality off the "good" parts of the Bible and there are many parables that are great to follow in life. Same with your parents. Hopefully they instill moral principles in you while you're young.
Evolution? Of course.
Morality and the need to help one another is definitely hard-wired into humans and primates because as hunter-gatherer communities, if we protect each other, we survive and are able to reproduce. For more information on the chemical basis of altruism and cooperation wikipedia: Oxytocin. Crazy hormone, really interesting stuff that's just being discovered.
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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 9:28 pm
Rick Dawkins If you're asking what different people use to guide their decisions on morality: 1) Nature versus nurture: Evolution versus upbringing. 2) Society and communities: morals from school and church 3) External sources: writings of philosophs or prophets (i.e. the Bible). The Bible as a moral foundation? Not really. The Old Testament is full of genocide and mass murders ordered by God and justified through xenophobic means. Jesus' message of "Love thy neighbor" wasn't even meant to apply to people outside his own group so Jesus' preaching can't be used to say that you should love "everyone." Through the Bible we learn about the Trinity and that they are one in the same. If the Bible shows that God is genocidal and Jesus is only concerned with the well-being of those in his own group, then how can we expect the Holy Ghost to be any different? God as moral foundation? Not really. God is absolute and whatever he decrees as right and wrong is only so because of his decree, not because of an underlying morality. Therefore, you cannot say that God is "moral." In Old Testament days gods were not ranked according to morality, they were ranked according to absolute power which is most definitely not the same thing. Church community as moral foundation? Why not? Your church community bases morality off the "good" parts of the Bible and there are many parables that are great to follow in life. Same with your parents. Hopefully they instill moral principles in you while you're young. Evolution? Of course. Morality and the need to help one another is definitely hard-wired into humans and primates because as hunter-gatherer communities, if we protect each other, we survive and are able to reproduce. For more information on the chemical basis of altruism and cooperation wikipedia: Oxytocin. Crazy hormone, really interesting stuff that's just being discovered. hhhmmm...so what you're saying is that....God has nothing to do with our morality...yet our primal instincts does?....well everybody has their right of opinion mate but here is what I believe....I believe if something we do...say I don't know...stealing from an old lady...is against god...we don't do it...why?...because we will feel ashamed that we have gone against god's will after all he has sacrificed...then again what if that old lady was a douchebag?...what if in her life she only loved money...and she never gave it to the poor and stuff...wouldn't it be "justice" to take her purse since she's a douchebag?....what can be considered right and wrong can be put into many,many,many perspectives of mibs mate :3
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Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 1:22 pm
sweatdrop
So Rich, what cult are you from where people diss the bible and then preach that it is false?
Only kidding. God gives the best descriptions of Good and Evil. I would rather you look in the book of Psalms and the book of John, and Romans expecially to see what is Good and Evil.
The old testament was a testament to God's destructive powers. He doesn't fill his verses with Genocide... but rather, he fills them with a heavy hand. His task throughout the Old Testament was to deliver the Jewish people to the Holy Land, as well as protect them. He often enforced how Sin is punished and how men who worship false Gods are wrong. It was to teach the Jewish people. He often is violent in description, but you must also realize that before the New Testament, Jews sacrificed to cleanse their sins, and forgiveness was not God's goal. However, God's compassion carries through Jesus, and his death is testament to his sacrifice of his only son, to forgive all our sins.
In the early church, also... (directed towards Rich) the only Jews were messianic jews. Jesus didn't create catholism... but Jesus was a jew, and so was their followers. The first Jews for Jesus, was the early church with memebers such as Peter, and John. Infact it wasn't until Paul (Saul) that christianity with gentiles began. Messianic Judaism isn't a new release... it was the first church of God.
All of the main followers of Jesus were Jews as well as Jesus himself. The reason there are still so many Jews that don't consider Jesus to be the messiah is because of Elijah and the Son of God. They were supposed to come right about the same time.
Yet we see that John the Babtist fits the description of Elijah as he eats Locusts and drinks Milk, just as Elijah. Even though John denies being Elijah, God used John the Babtist to symbolize Elijah. The proof is that John the Babtist was a good friend of Jesus. When John the Babtist was beheaded... Jesus wept. He went alone on a boat and obviously not only had a brother-like connection with him... but he also must have understood that Elijah had died in John the Babtist. Unfortunatly many Jews don't believe that, because they have been prosecuted in the name of Jesus from the time of the Knights Templar taking the temple... to Hitler. Jews don't like Christians trying to convert them... and the rate at which people like myself can relate to them, is much higher then the typical christian...
Overall, God is very right... he died for our sins, paid the ultimate death for our sins, and we as christians should live by God's standards... for what he has done for us, pails in comparison to any laws or standards the founding fathers or anyone else has set down. I encourage believers to stand strong when deciding their moral feelings about sex, abortion, gay marriage and other things not commonly found throughout the bible. It takes deep understanding of the bible to understand why God is filled with hope and love, and I guess I encourage you to follow the ten commandments, and what Jesus outlines throughout the new testament as well. Now Rich will most likely want to disprove the Ten Commandments, and I have myself ready for that argument as well... but yeah... go by the Lord, and he will make your life filled.
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Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 3:43 pm
Link_of_Chaos0911 sweatdrop So Rich, what cult are you from where people diss the bible and then preach that it is false? Only kidding. God gives the best descriptions of Good and Evil. I would rather you look in the book of Psalms and the book of John, and Romans expecially to see what is Good and Evil. The old testament was a testament to God's destructive powers. He doesn't fill his verses with Genocide... but rather, he fills them with a heavy hand. His task throughout the Old Testament was to deliver the Jewish people to the Holy Land, as well as protect them. He often enforced how Sin is punished and how men who worship false Gods are wrong. It was to teach the Jewish people. He often is violent in description, but you must also realize that before the New Testament, Jews sacrificed to cleanse their sins, and forgiveness was not God's goal. However, God's compassion carries through Jesus, and his death is testament to his sacrifice of his only son, to forgive all our sins. In the early church, also... (directed towards Rich) the only Jews were messianic jews. Jesus didn't create catholism... but Jesus was a jew, and so was their followers. The first Jews for Jesus, was the early church with memebers such as Peter, and John. Infact it wasn't until Paul (Saul) that christianity with gentiles began. Messianic Judaism isn't a new release... it was the first church of God. All of the main followers of Jesus were Jews as well as Jesus himself. The reason there are still so many Jews that don't consider Jesus to be the messiah is because of Elijah and the Son of God. They were supposed to come right about the same time. Yet we see that John the Babtist fits the description of Elijah as he eats Locusts and drinks Milk, just as Elijah. Even though John denies being Elijah, God used John the Babtist to symbolize Elijah. The proof is that John the Babtist was a good friend of Jesus. When John the Babtist was beheaded... Jesus wept. He went alone on a boat and obviously not only had a brother-like connection with him... but he also must have understood that Elijah had died in John the Babtist. Unfortunatly many Jews don't believe that, because they have been prosecuted in the name of Jesus from the time of the Knights Templar taking the temple... to Hitler. Jews don't like Christians trying to convert them... and the rate at which people like myself can relate to them, is much higher then the typical christian... Overall, God is very right... he died for our sins, paid the ultimate death for our sins, and we as christians should live by God's standards... for what he has done for us, pails in comparison to any laws or standards the founding fathers or anyone else has set down. I encourage believers to stand strong when deciding their moral feelings about sex, abortion, gay marriage and other things not commonly found throughout the bible. It takes deep understanding of the bible to understand why God is filled with hope and love, and I guess I encourage you to follow the ten commandments, and what Jesus outlines throughout the new testament as well. Now Rich will most likely want to disprove the Ten Commandments, and I have myself ready for that argument as well... but yeah... go by the Lord, and he will make your life filled. It's not a cult. Morals are your own personal beliefs. They are not to be forced onto you nor do should you share the same morals. For example I will tell you my morals. 1. I believe that forcing your ideas,opinions, beliefs, morals on another is bad. We are all different, it is okay for someone to believe or think in something totally different. 2. Killing is wrong. Plain and simple. We live in a "civilized society". If you kill someone then you are going to get killed (referring to the death penalty). 3. Opressing Women and making sure that they shouldn't get full benefits as others is wrong. 4. Telling gays that God hates them is wrong. God loves everyone. 5. Saying that Gays sin the most is a lie. And lying is a sin. We sin equallly. 6. War is bad. Again goes with killing. There is no justified cause for killing others. I don't care if you hate Muslims don't kill them. Hating is a sin. 7. Saying that gays shouldn't have marital benefits as staright people is wrong. Why the hell should you care what they do? If they can raise a kid, let them. Chances are their kids aren't going to be messed up or abused. And that they will give them a better chance at life. You take that away and we're going to have a higher suicide rate. stare And mibs, stealing is a criminal offense. You can and will do some time in jail (depending on if you're caught or not) and will be considered a felon. (I took Intro to Criminal Justice last semester I should know this.)
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Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 4:14 pm
Sorry let me explain. This is a christian guild... whether he came here or whatever... it's like mexicans... you gotta learn the language if you want to be apart of it.
For example: I have no problem with immigrants as long as they are legal, and accounted for... and if you want to enter the United States, you don't tell America to learn your language... you as an immigrant learn English... that's how it's been for my family coming from Russia... and so yeah.
As for killing. It is a sin, and you should love your neighbor. But even God says that we should take up defense. If muslims want to kill the jews, I'm going to kill them right back. Same with World War 2... no matter what is wrong or right. What perplexed me is that you are into the death penalty.
How justice works... in the United States is very close to what God wants... but God doesn't want us to kill killers... he wants us to forgive them...
But as a human, this is where God can't exactly touch my heart... when my brothers and sisters in Christ die because of their religion, and a crazy islamic activists are to blame, I would definetly go all out to beat them down... it's human nature. Unfortunately, it is sin to kill someone, but so is lying... and stealing, and adultery.
Also, God laid down laws in the old testament about same-sex marriage. What I believe? Gays are not Gays. They are normal people that have been exposed to a gay nature... and have became Gay...
God never created this... it's just an adaption that men have created... and it's been since Sodom and Gimorrah (sp?)...
And I don't hate muslims... I would kill the extremists because they threaten my people with Slavery and Death.
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Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 4:24 pm
Link_of_Chaos0911 Sorry let me explain. This is a christian guild... whether he came here or whatever... it's like mexicans... you gotta learn the language if you want to be apart of it. For example: I have no problem with immigrants as long as they are legal, and accounted for... and if you want to enter the United States, you don't tell America to learn your language... you as an immigrant learn English... that's how it's been for my family coming from Russia... and so yeah. As for killing. It is a sin, and you should love your neighbor. But even God says that we should take up defense. If muslims want to kill the jews, I'm going to kill them right back. Same with World War 2... no matter what is wrong or right. What perplexed me is that you are into the death penalty. How justice works... in the United States is very close to what God wants... but God doesn't want us to kill killers... he wants us to forgive them... But as a human, this is where God can't exactly touch my heart... when my brothers and sisters in Christ die because of their religion, and a crazy islamic activists are to blame, I would definetly go all out to beat them down... it's human nature. Unfortunately, it is sin to kill someone, but so is lying... and stealing, and adultery. Also, God laid down laws in the old testament about same-sex marriage. What I believe? Gays are not Gays. They are normal people that have been exposed to a gay nature... and have became Gay... God never created this... it's just an adaption that men have created... and it's been since Sodom and Gomorrah (sp?)... And I don't hate muslims... I would kill the extremists because they threaten my people with Slavery and Death. Actually you do tell Americans to learn a second language if they want a well paying job or want to travel. If you don't then you're percieved as an ignorant person. And won't get a good job and will probably be working at Mc'Donalds for the rest of your life. The justice system is based on the concept of revenge. Hammurabi's Code. "An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth". I'm not into the death penalty I was using it as an example. If you kill someone in the state of Texas or Oklahoma you get the automatic death penalty unless you are found to be insane. (ie. Andrea Yates). I don't think God would want you to kill Muslims or fight them for that matter. You may think he does but in reality he doesn't. God created everyone and that included gays. Deal with it. He loves everyone. And being bi isn't a bad thing nor is it considered gay. It just means that those who are bi have no preference for gender. Plain and simple. Again God doesn't want you to kill muslims. No matter what they did. I may dislike neo-nazis but I don't want to kill them for WWII. (I'm part German. My grandpa fled during that time).
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Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 8:48 pm
aye stealing is a felony mate but when I remember stuff like robin hood and le meserables (in case if ya aren't familiar a guy goes to jail for stealin a loaf of bread...which that loaf was for his family not for him) I tend to wonder wether they are sinning or not...because on one hand they are stealing and in the ten commandments it says stealing is a no-no....but on the other hand...the stuff that is stolen is given to the poor or to a family or stuff...so would it still be considered a sin if ya steal from someday for a good cause? *eats a mib* who knows...the only mib that knows that answer is God himself (or herself...well God isn't really a dude or a chick...it's just kinda easier to call him a dude...not to be sexist...just sayin ^.^") ANYWHO yeah I agree with ya that war is a horrible thing...it causes many deathes and famine and all that nasty stuff...yet...if you think about it...I know natzis aren't all bad cause they could of just been forced to do their job or they could of been brainwashed...but think of the total deaths if hitler was just allowed to do his thing?...we let him take austria and chzechslovakia until the british and france got pissed.....anyways my point is Hitler killed over 6,000,000 jews...(and non jews as well)...think of how bigger it would be if we didn't stop him?....like I said War is a terrible...terrible thing...in fact I am opposed of the war in Iraq...but yeah I'm starting to ramble on like a son of a mib so I'll just mib out for now...mibs! ^o^
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Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 4:08 pm
Hammurabi was a king of Babylon, i think... wait. Was it in my rememberance that in the Revelation god includes the fall of Babylon? Or not?
ninja
God didn't create Gay... Satan did. End of the road. Is it a sin to act gay? Yes. Should we go and tell the world to become straight or go to hell? No. That is the simple awnser. Gay is a verb, not a noun. If you understand that...
Bisexuality is simply adultery. In my point of view... you marry 1 person, and you covet no one else or you break the Ten Commandments. Am I wrong in assuming that Bi means 2. So therefore, yeah... God obviously is not in favor of bisexual people and he didn't create them... Satan did.
How to fight Homoseuality and Bisexuality:
Unless, the world shows less and less support for this action that people take... more people will begin to take part in it. Overall, I can't tell people who are bi that God hates them. We are all sinners... what I can say, is this... if people are acting bisexual or homosexual... but they truly want to find God... and truly search for him within their heart... they will stop sinning...
The act was detestable in the Old Testament... and no offense, but it WAS Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve. That's not a hateful remark.
And since being gay or being bisexual is a verb... it means that I am not being hateful to a group of people... I could categorize people who act bisexual and homosexual... but that would not be politically correct... hmm?! Am I wrong, that putting people into a group based on something you believe is a sin, is not politically correct?
The only group that is so broad and is partially politically correct is this:
Sinners.
@Rich Dawkins: You call my people the ones who did Genocide... tell that to the 6 million of them who died in Germany and Poland. Tell that to the millions of Jews who suffered through Babylon, and Persia, and Roman Control, and Assyrian control, and Hitler's grasp. It's not 6 million Jews... it's way more then that.
@People who don't Support Iraq War or Israel's Support:
4,000 Americans. 7 years. - Iraq War
100,000+ Americans. 1 month. -Iwo Shima (Part of World War II)
20,000+ Americans. 1 Day. -D-Day (June 4, 1944 WWII)
Tell me, HOW THE **** ARE WE LOSING? It's because people who want to win an election in 2008, are decieving the American people that this war is pointless.
We brought hope to Iraq. We let them vote for the first time in 30 years... Iraq is currently unstable and we have a surge that is working. We have brave Americans kicking a** in Iraq, and they have no support from more than 50% of America. You know, Barack Obama was right, we need change. And, what he plans to bring is a withdraw from the best fought war in all of history. Yeah, well... good job.
When we pull out of Iraq, I'm leaving to Israel after college, btw...
When we pull out of Iraq, this is what is going to happen:
Easily Iran's forces will engulf the region... and then what is America supposed to do, Go back?
Iran's forces will take the region for sure... set up possible secret nuclear facilities... and screw the nuclear power... millions of warheads, will be planned and taken aim at Israel. Persia and Babylon will come back, and the forces of the Jews, won't be enough to hold Israel. Well let me just put it this way.
If we don't hold the Middle East accountable for their actions and leave Iraq... we may be facing the destruction of more then 20 million people. That is more than 2 holocausts combined. That includes christians, jews, and muslims.
So my question is... should we take that risk? If you say yes... well let me just say that is a rhetorical context... the only moral awnser would be No. We should stay.
You say they don't have nuclear capabiliies... well let's just screw the Middle East, leave... and let them try to build nuclear warheads. wtf?!
And this is what the typical responce is... is that the United Nations will make sure that doesn't happen. But no offense... a crap load of Kurds died and the UN didn't do anything to help that country.
I hate to say that our next president will be Barack Obama... actually... no.
Our last president will be Barack Obama. He was the only one who didn't support Iraq... and that war was all about Partiotism when we went in.
Anyways... its just safe to say that no matter what... if we pull-out we are condemning the Jews, muslims and Christians in that area to death... it's just a matter of time...
And see, I don't want to kiil muslims. I want to help them learn christianity... or the hope of christianity... and I want Palestinians to be settle with the little land that they destroyed... and I want the Iranians to shove a nuke up their butt and kill themselves. ((I want their nuclear plans to be completly wiped out))
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Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 4:25 pm
Link_of_Chaos0911 Hammurabi was a king of Babylon, i think... wait. Was it in my rememberance that in the Revelation god includes the fall of Babylon? Or not? ninja God didn't create Gay... Satan did. End of the road. Is it a sin to act gay? Yes. Should we go and tell the world to become straight or go to hell? No. That is the simple awnser. Gay is a verb, not a noun. If you understand that... Bisexuality is simply adultery. In my point of view... you marry 1 person, and you covet no one else or you break the Ten Commandments. Am I wrong in assuming that Bi means 2. So therefore, yeah... God obviously is not in favor of bisexual people and he didn't create them... Satan did. How to fight Homoseuality and Bisexuality: Unless, the world shows less and less support for this action that people take... more people will begin to take part in it. Overall, I can't tell people who are bi that God hates them. We are all sinners... what I can say, is this... if people are acting bisexual or homosexual... but they truly want to find God... and truly search for him within their heart... they will stop sinning... The act was detestable in the Old Testament... and no offense, but it WAS Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve. That's not a hateful remark. And since being gay or being bisexual is a verb... it means that I am not being hateful to a group of people... I could categorize people who act bisexual and homosexual... but that would not be politically correct... hmm?! Am I wrong, that putting people into a group based on something you believe is a sin, is not politically correct? The only group that is so broad and is partially politically correct is this: Sinners. @Rich Dawkins: You call my people the ones who did Genocide... tell that to the 6 million of them who died in Germany and Poland. Tell that to the millions of Jews who suffered through Babylon, and Persia, and Roman Control, and Assyrian control, and Hitler's grasp. It's not 6 million Jews... it's way more then that. @People who don't Support Iraq War or Israel's Support: 4,000 Americans. 7 years. - Iraq War 100,000+ Americans. 1 month. -Iwo Shima (Part of World War II) 20,000+ Americans. 1 Day. -D-Day (June 4, 1944 WWII) Tell me, HOW THE **** ARE WE LOSING? It's because people who want to win an election in 2008, are decieving the American people that this war is pointless. We brought hope to Iraq. We let them vote for the first time in 30 years... Iraq is currently unstable and we have a surge that is working. We have brave Americans kicking a** in Iraq, and they have no support from more than 50% of America. You know, Barack Obama was right, we need change. And, what he plans to bring is a withdraw from the best fought war in all of history. Yeah, well... good job. When we pull out of Iraq, I'm leaving to Israel after college, btw... When we pull out of Iraq, this is what is going to happen: Easily Iran's forces will engulf the region... and then what is America supposed to do, Go back? Iran's forces will take the region for sure... set up possible secret nuclear facilities... and screw the nuclear power... millions of warheads, will be planned and taken aim at Israel. Persia and Babylon will come back, and the forces of the Jews, won't be enough to hold Israel. Well let me just put it this way. If we don't hold the Middle East accountable for their actions and leave Iraq... we may be facing the destruction of more then 20 million people. That is more than 2 holocausts combined. That includes christians, jews, and muslims. So my question is... should we take that risk? If you say yes... well let me just say that is a rhetorical context... the only moral awnser would be No. We should stay. You say they don't have nuclear capabiliies... well let's just screw the Middle East, leave... and let them try to build nuclear warheads. wtf?! And this is what the typical responce is... is that the United Nations will make sure that doesn't happen. But no offense... a crap load of Kurds died and the UN didn't do anything to help that country. I hate to say that our next president will be Barack Obama... actually... no. Our last president will be Barack Obama. He was the only one who didn't support Iraq... and that war was all about Partiotism when we went in. Anyways... its just safe to say that no matter what... if we pull-out we are condemning the Jews, muslims and Christians in that area to death... it's just a matter of time... And see, I don't want to kiil muslims. I want to help them learn christianity... or the hope of christianity... and I want Palestinians to be settle with the little land that they destroyed... and I want the Iranians to shove a nuke up their butt and kill themselves. ((I want their nuclear plans to be completly wiped out)) So now you're changing your story. I thought you said you wanted to kill muslims and you did actually say it numerous times. But whatever the case all your doing is spreading the seeds of hate. And don't say you aren't because that would be a lie. And isn't lying a sin? ~_^
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