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rented wings

PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:46 pm


Creation deals with the attempting to answer the question, "Where did I and the rest of the universe come from?" Evolution provides the idea that original matter was formed by unknown means into the first living organism. From this DNA and RNA were simultaneously formed so as to further life and kick start the evolutionary process of heredity and natural selection through the process of reproduction. It's the equivalent of a laptop computer on the top of Mt. Everest being formed by nothing but time and probability.
However, Creationism (metaphorically speaking) provides the man who built the laptop. An unknown being whom provided a kick start to life, creating a source for the first cell, DNA strand, and micro organism. However, there is no way to prove the existence or "unexistence" of this "god" figure.

Both hold noticeable and serious flaws; both contain logic and understanding of scientific law.

To be clear, I am only addressing the thoughts on the origins of the universe, not the methods used to shape it (such as the debates on the validity of literal 7 day creation or gradual evolution) .

With both reasonably possible, why should it be considered more or less "intellectual" to hold the belief of one over the other?
PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 6:07 pm


Ockham's Razor.

A divine hand is simply an unnecessary and unsupported assumption.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 9:15 am


rented wings
Evolution provides the idea that original matter was formed by unknown means into the first living organism. From this DNA and RNA were simultaneously formed so as to further life and kick start the evolutionary process of heredity and natural selection through the process of reproduction.

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No.

Just no.

That has absolutely nothing to do with evolution. At best, it SORT OF involves the Big Bang and the beginning of the universe, but all of your logic and arguments are flawed, as none of it has a basis in scientific theory or fact. None of what you are saying is even remotely true, even according to theories. That is not evolution.

Ignoring that, it is widely known that evolution is supremely and infinitely unlikely, which is why it takes millions of years, etc. The universe existing at all is even more unlikely. That the universe exists, then that a star formed, then a planet, then one with habitable circumstances, then life evolving on it, all of this, especially put together, is infinitely unlikely, but it DID happen (if you believe in evolution, etc). Its like winning the lottery. People complaining about all of this being really unlikely if you believe in evolution, etc, is like a man who wins the lottery saying how unlikely it was. Sure, it was a one in a million chance, but it doesn't matter. You already won.
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