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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 7:14 am
Okay I am currently sitting at the tutoring center in my College, and a thought hit me with the help of a fellow house member. Are there some characters from the series that you think belonged in other houses? If so, why do you think that they did?
Our referece will be Neville. We Hufflepuffs think that he should have totally been a Hufflepuff. He just seems to fit into our mould. He way loyal, loved Herbology, true to his friends, etc...
Are there any other characters that you have come across that you feel the same way about? If so I would like to know. :]
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:18 pm
I agree that Neville would make a good Hufflepuff.
Percy should have been a Slytherin. I have nothing against Slytherin, so I don't mean that as an insult. I simply mean that Percy was very ambitious; he liked power and had high goals for himself.
Luna should have been in Gryffindor. I love Luna, and don't believe she's unintelligent, but because she mostly enjoys learning about ficticious things and showed great courage several times, I think Gryffindor is more suitable.
Hermione should be a Ravenclaw. I know she said, "The Hat seriously considered on putting me in Ravenclaw." Sure, she's brave, but Luna was a brave Ravenclaw as well. Who loves learning more than Hermione? For the plot, of course, she had to be a Gryffindor in order to see Harry and Ron so often.
Peter Pettigrew ought to have been a Slytherin. No, not because all Slytherins are "evil," and Gryffindors are all "good." It's because, from a very young age, Peter looked to stronger people to protect him (very uncouragous) and even Voldemort said Wormtail returned to his service out of fear rather than loyalty. Where's the bravery? However, he must've been cunning in order to fool James and Sirius into suspecting Remus was the spy instead of himself. Like Hermione, I think the only reason he was a Gryffindor is for plot purposes. If he hadn't been a Gryffindor with the other Marauders then James wouldn't have been friends with him and made him Secret Keeper, so James and Lily wouldn't have been killed and Harry wouldn't have been marked by Voldemort...Essentially, there would be no story.
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:00 pm
I concur with you both.
I also think Snape should've been in Gryffindor. I saw him more as courageous than ambitious. But, like others, it was most likely for plot purposes. Had he been in Gryffindor, he wouldn't have made friends with Slytherins, and he would've remained friends with Lily. From there, they may have fallen in love, and without James Potter there would be no Harry Potter.
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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 6:33 pm
I'm going to go over to Neville's house and spray paint it yellow and black ninja And the Hufflepuff argument for Neville being Hufflepuff is that Cedric and Tonks were also brave and intelligent. So therefore Neville = a Puff. But I've thought of Neville as a Puff for a few years now, every time I picture him (and it's a lot ^_^) I have to remind myself that he wears gold and red... And in the last book, he protected dozens of younger kids from the Carrows, it's part bravery yes, but compassion and a strong sense of justice played a huge part of that, a larger part than bravery.
I think that Zacharias Smith should have been a Slytherin. He was rude, and didn't do anything much but complain. Certainly not the qualities of our House. It's probably a lot to do with my being bias that all Hufflepuffs are wonderful. kind and supportive people though.
I would like Remus to have been a Ravenclaw. I can just see him in the blue and bronze colours and they suit him.
And if Hermione isn't a Ravenclaw I don't know who is. mrgreen
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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 7:40 pm
Lol, I'll argue against the Hermione-in-Ravenclaw idea. Ravenclaw isn't just being smart, it's being wise. Hermione's knowledge originated mostly from books. She shows no particular wisdom, and her Gryffindor qualities--such as her courage in standing up for her friends--show that she isn't just a Gryffindor for plot purposes. Though Neville does seem very Hufflepuff-y. It's rather confusing, because courage is oftentimes crossed with loyalty...
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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 7:46 pm
I agree with everything people have said, with the possible exception of Neville.
Although I can't think of any particular characters at the moment, there are a lot of people in the wrong houses, because [in my opinion] J. K. Rowling let herself fall into a steriotype with the houses. Like, Gryffindor houses the "good people", Slytherin the "bad people", Hufflepuff the not so imortant people, and Ravenclaw the good characters that just weren't important enough to be in Gryffindor. This is really obvious in the first book, when Hermione and Ron both say that "Gryffindor sounds by far the best, but Ravenclaw wouldn't be so bad." Draco says that he'd leave if he were in Hufflepuff, and Ron says something along those lines as well.
According to my knowledge, Dumbledore was a Gryffindor. Personally, I believe he would be better suited for Ravenclaw, not only because of his extreme intellingence, but because a lot of the things that show what his personality was like didn't seem very courageous or self-less.
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 1:15 pm
Really? I would've placed Dumbledore in Slytherin. Thinking positively here, Slytherin would be for persuasive people, Ravenclaw for the wise, Gryffindor for the brave and Hufflepuff for the honest/loyal. Though judging by this, it seems that Hufflepuff fits most in the 'good' people category...(haha). And Dumbledore is pretty manipulative. Not all Slytherins are into the Dark Arts, and so it matches Dumbledore pretty well. But if you think negatively, Gryffindors are rash, Slytherins and evil, Hufflepuffs are stupid and Ravenclaws are nerds. Let's stay positive. XD
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 1:54 pm
Good description of the houses, Theresa... But I would have put Dumbledore in Ravenclaw. He's just...wise and manipulative, but not in the evil sense like for Slytherins.
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 2:03 pm
Ah, but who said Slytherins are evil? And Ravenclaws aren't noted for their manipulative-ness.
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 2:08 pm
But to manipulate someone, you must be at least smarter than the person you're manipulating. And he tricked a lot of people. And he's so secretive and mysterious...Ravenclaw just fits.
And the students have been saying Slytherins are evil from the first book. And all the Slytherins in the book have been evil. So Slytherins are naturally looked upon as evil.
*correction, I forgot about Snape. But he acts evil.
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 9:11 pm
Although I agree that Slytherin is not necessarily evil, I still think that D. is better suited for Ravenclaw.
He is very smart and very wise and, even if he is ambitious and manipulative, I would still put him in Ravenclaw. It fits him better than Slytherin because, let's face it, Slytherin is full of Dark Arts fanatics.
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 9:41 pm
We have to remember that the hat put you where you would go furthest in life. Hermione should have been in Ravenclaw, but if she stayed there she would have stayed the way she was. In Gryffindor she was able to go further than where she was.
The only true Gryffindor out of the main characters I think was Ron. Harry should have been Slytherin (and he was only Gryff for plot purposes), Neville should have been in Hufflepuff, but Gryffindor was the house that would take him the furthest in life. So the hat isn't necessarily wrong, we're just all basing the sorting off stereotypes, when we should be basing it off of potential. Like, Hermione was great in reading, and learning and things like that, but she had the potential to be incredibly brave. Like Neville. If he had stayed in Hufflepuff, he wouldn't have turned out the way he did.
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Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 1:03 am
I remember that the moment Hermione ended up in Gryffindor I practically shouted out "Why the heck did she not end up in Ravenclaw?!". lol I was an odd kid.
She has the mind and intelligence, even the thirst for knowledge. Don't get me wrong, she's also a couragous girl, but I personally think that she'd do much better in Ravenclaw. surprised
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Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 8:26 am
Yay! Discussion on the front page! I do have something to say on what watermelonz said though... watermelonz I think that Zacharias Smith should have been a Slytherin. He was rude, and didn't do anything much but complain. Certainly not the qualities of our House. It's probably a lot to do with my being bias that all Hufflepuffs are wonderful. kind and supportive people though. I don't think Mr. Z was all that bad. There were even times when I rather liked him. He is shown as being rude and whiny because thats how Harry saw him, and Harry saw him that way because Zacharias didn't much like Harry because he was too believing of rumors. I don't really blame him. I mean, in the second year, he thought what he saw was Harry running the snake towards the one dude (or something like that) and that was really the first time he'd seen Harry do anything. Can you blame him for his opinions? I mean, Harry gets on my nerves sometimes too! And anyways, I tend to like the background characters like that. Has anyone here read 'the Odyssey' ? I love the crewmember Eurylochus, despite him being a jerk and leading a mutiny. He was smart, and had character, so I liked him.
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Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 8:42 am
I think that you're correct with thinking that there are some characters that are sorted incorrectly - but that's because we see them grow and change. Dumbledore makes the statement in Deathly Hallows that he thinks that they might sort too early. To me that makes sense - if you look at the attributes of everyone when they were first sorted, they were more than likely sorted correctly. However no one is who they really are at 11 or 12, we require trials and tribulations to form who we are - so when we are a 5, 6, or 7th year we might see that we don't quite fit into our house.
Take me for example, when the books first came out I was certain that I would be a Gryffindor. Certain events come to pass and I see that I'm more suitable for Slytherin. Now however, as I'm becoming more confident and comfortable with who I really am - I can see that I am completely a Ravenclaw.
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