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princess of moonlight

PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 9:02 am


My mind has been currently wrapped around high interest of magic(k)s.
I suppose I could learn few spells first,mostly basic things.
I need some assistance,since I'm starting this.
Ingredients needed?Books needed?Any actions needed before doing any spells?(meditation,preparement,etc.)
I've heard about black and white magic,which are pretty common names in games,especially rpg ones.
But is there like...summoning,blue or red magic,elemental magic,enchanting and all that stuff.
PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 9:59 am


First step:

Forget everything you've ever seen on TV, movies, and played in video games.

The only use color has in magick (when labeling) is that mankind has a sort of organizational fetish. EVERYTHING has to be labeled lol.

You don't technically "need" any ingredients, things like candles, incense, and stuff are all fine and good for concentration help but you really aren't required to have them.

Books...I'd recommend anything by Aleister Crowley (but I'm mildly biased).

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princess of moonlight

PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 10:33 am


Well..Bad thing is that I don't know where should I find a book,since there aren't much people,who can actually cast some spells or do kinetics (maybe).
Since Finland is quite...I dunno.
Other good thing is that I'm finally trying to find out who is my spirit guide,if I even have one.
Good tip would help me alot.
Well...I think I'll be out now,see you later people!
PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 11:36 pm


Read everything you can get your hands on and then test it for yourself. If it works then you'll know that for yourself. Then you can start the process all over again until content.

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princess of moonlight

PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 6:27 am


I leave the book finding for computer.
I know that I'll find something from net.
PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 6:17 pm


Edit-This is likely to be beyond anyone new, and alot may take a while to be digested, if at all, but don't be afraid to ask questions.

In book stores, if you can find a "New Age" section thats pretty good, they're usually close to were bibles are kept...
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Read everything you can get your hands on and then test it for yourself. If it works then you'll know that for yourself. Then you can start the process all over again until content.
I totally agree. Though, I feel the need to say, question it anyways, and always. 'If you ask a hundred people who study the occult the same question, you're likely to get a hundred different answers.'

I have some websites I can give you, and maybe a link or two for downloadable (to the computer) books. So far almost all downloadable books I've found need Adobe Acrobat Reader. Take a look at the list, then go over it a second time and look at each link breifly, skim it, then go on the the next one and do whatever you want when you're done.

http://spiralnature.com/ <--Its kind of an overview/explainations site.
http://www.psipog.net/ Site that talks about and has exercises for energy manipulation
http://www.chaosmatrix.org/ Based around chaote practioners (bad semantics on my part)
http://templeofmagick.freeforums.org/ Forum site
http://www.occultforums.com/ Awesome forum site

Haven't been through all the sites enough to feel I can give a proper statement on them, but its more material, peruse at your leisure.
http://www.spellsandmagic.com/ Random magic site
http://www.irreality.net/ Chaosesk stuff, not much about magic at first glance
http://barbelith.com/forum/6 Sub-forum of a forum place
http://www.theenigmaleague.net/world/index.php?PHPSESSID=af1ec3a723954b84dd4e3ba1e42d6db1;www Forum site, recently hacked
http://www.occultcorpus.com/ Forum site
http://www.magicatastrophe.com/ Forum site
http://www.atlantavampirealliance.com/communitylinks.html <--Mostly about vampire lifestyle people, does cover energy manipulation and some other things...LOTS of links in that site to other vampire sites. May include things that are not for squeemish people.
http://mysilentecho.com/dreamtongue1.htm Empathy stuff
http://www.technoccult.com/ Technology related things unrelated to occult stuff take up the majority of the site. Infact, I have yet to find an occult thing even in the occult subsections.
http://www.lastwizards.com/ Very little practice material, interesting information though. Symbol guide
http://theocculture.com/ Interesting site, Library subsection is the most useful to me so far
http://www.evocationmagic.com/forum/ Forum site
Clouds Without Water A book by Aleister Crowley, doesn't seem very interesting, or overtly occult
http://www.apodion.com/ The bottom of that page has three links, they explain it pretty well, Satanism theme.
Dragon Magic stuff Click+scroll to highlight and read, doesn't seem very useful to me
http://www.flamesfirepit.org/ Wiccan-shamanism site, nothing new for me, already been down that path, I recommend it
http://www.hermetic.com/ Stuff about people and subjects, mostly studies and interpretations, many many links, its a huge site. Click on a few without reading the content and you will see how big the site can be
http://www.iot.org.uk/ Stuff about the IOT order, has a downloadable book and forusm, I think, not much content for non-members
Konx Om Pax Essays in Light Something by Aleister Crowley, also doesn't seem to have much over occult information
Man Visible and Invisible Links to other books and things on the left
http://dewarlorx.com/psychokinesis.htm Stuff on Psychokinesis', I don't have much faith in it
http://home.xtra.co.nz/hosts/Wingmakers/ Interesting site, I don't care for it though
http://www.crystalinks.com/ Interesting site
http://www.mprilc.frih.net/ The MPRILC website, woo!
http://www.scns.com/earthen/other/seanachaidh/sean.html Beginners magic section is good, not much 'new' information
http://greenmanarts.com/ Has a fair bit of content
http://www.halexandria.org/ Obsessed with the Annunaki (the name for the sumerian gods that they think were aliens who really created human kind), interesting, but not much stuff that can be used for practice of occult stuff--warning, do not look at the 'why (insert consumable) is bad for you' if you like (american) dairy. I'm Canadain and I was put of dairy even though ours has a higher standard....
http://time-travelers.org/ Covers alot of things religion, philosophy, energy exercises...just, click it and skim
http://s.gaiaonline.com/images/alchemyst/Chapters_1to3.pdf Ficticious book on Alchemy, downloadable?
http://www.wisdomsdoor.com/welcome.htm Another interesting site, lots of content
Liber MMM Short downloadable book, interesting
http://www.ytown.com/oak/topsites.shtml <--That link has atleast a hundred other occult sites linked to it
http://time-travelers.org/witchcraftlinks.htm Random occult links

Books online
http://theocculture.com/index.php?page=library Downloadable-ish, lots of material
http://www.evocationmagic.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=22 More books available, some are repeated

Aura stuff, some is good, some is...weird
How to See and Read the Aura
Stuff for fixing the aura

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 8:54 pm


Dorian Requiem
http://s.gaiaonline.com/images/alchemyst/Chapters_1to3.pdf Book on Alchemy, downloadable?


I couldn't get the file to open, but it appears to be a promotional preview of Michael Scott's The Alchemyst: The Secrets of the Immortal Nicholas Flamel.

It's fiction based off of legend and folklore. Probably won't tell you anything about real alchemy.
PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 10:07 pm


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Dorian Requiem
http://s.gaiaonline.com/images/alchemyst/Chapters_1to3.pdf Book on Alchemy, downloadable?


I couldn't get the file to open, but it appears to be a promotional preview of Michael Scott's The Alchemyst: The Secrets of the Immortal Nicholas Flamel.

It's fiction based off of legend and folklore. Probably won't tell you anything about real alchemy.
*goes back to edit that* I was waiting for someone with a stronger knowledge on the subject of alchemy to put in their thoughts on that book, I've yet to develope a large enough base of knowledge to discern material as well as I'd like. Thanks.

I can read it, but it does open up Adobe Acrobat Reader 7.0 in the explorer window I'm using. If you have Adobe, which is likely, then I'm stumped.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 7:45 pm


Dorian Requiem
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Dorian Requiem
http://s.gaiaonline.com/images/alchemyst/Chapters_1to3.pdf Book on Alchemy, downloadable?


I couldn't get the file to open, but it appears to be a promotional preview of Michael Scott's The Alchemyst: The Secrets of the Immortal Nicholas Flamel.

It's fiction based off of legend and folklore. Probably won't tell you anything about real alchemy.
*goes back to edit that* I was waiting for someone with a stronger knowledge on the subject of alchemy to put in their thoughts on that book, I've yet to develope a large enough base of knowledge to discern material as well as I'd like. Thanks.

I can read it, but it does open up Adobe Acrobat Reader 7.0 in the explorer window I'm using. If you have Adobe, which is likely, then I'm stumped.


I sometimes have difficulties opening .pdfs through Firefox. It likes to crash the browser for some reason. I got a little window that said that the "file is damaged and could not be repaired" and I wasn't going to crash Firefox two more times to get a look at it. I just made a guess based off of the link, and the word "alchemyst" as this book is really the only place I've seen that spelling.

I do own the hard copy of the book, and it is entertaining fiction thus far (I'm only three chapters in) and Michael Scott is apparently a renowned folklorist. As far as actual alchemy teachings though: I'm not holding my breath on that, since this is an entirely fictitious work with the exception of including a few historical figures from alchemy lore: Nicholas and Perenelle Flamel and Dr. John Dee.

Man, I'm long-winded...
PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 1:14 pm


Obscurus
I sometimes have difficulties opening .pdfs through Firefox. It likes to crash the browser for some reason. I got a little window that said that the "file is damaged and could not be repaired" and I wasn't going to crash Firefox two more times to get a look at it. I just made a guess based off of the link, and the word "alchemyst" as this book is really the only place I've seen that spelling.

I do own the hard copy of the book, and it is entertaining fiction thus far (I'm only three chapters in) and Michael Scott is apparently a renowned folklorist. As far as actual alchemy teachings though: I'm not holding my breath on that, since this is an entirely fictitious work with the exception of including a few historical figures from alchemy lore: Nicholas and Perenelle Flamel and Dr. John Dee.

Man, I'm long-winded...

The firefox thing is understandable. The long winded thing is a trait I'm victim to on occasion, I think its an half-unintentional method some people employ to try to make sure theres no room for misunderstanding.

Other then that, I hope the other links to books weren't a b***h.

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Lumineris

PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:36 am


Also, try going to some torrent sites like isohunt.com and downloading occult e-books. I hate to say it, but the best do-it-yourself magickal training your likely to get will be out of Liber Null. The only 'spells' I've gotten to work were ones I made up on the spot. Chaos is really the best for beginners. You get a feel for it and that helps you understand more complex rituals and rites. I'd also reccomend finding a group to train you, but it doesn't sound like that is an option.
PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 4:34 pm


I thank everyone for help,it's getting slowly better with those sites and stuff.I owe you guys.

princess of moonlight

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