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 Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 10:58 pm
What do you think is real, beyond a doubt(assuming reality is real)? What do you think is fake, beyond a doubt(assuming reality is not-fake)? Let's make a discussion to simply tell one another what WE believe is real, or not real. Please leave any major/minor religions out of this because that would be almost equivalent to an RPG-WP grenade being propelled at a nuke, a katana is involved too, somewhere.. Let the discussion begin!!! Because of some misunderstandings... I had to make another post, quoted here Quote: In the first post, I tried to state that we will keep philosophical discussions on reality out of this and focus on what we believe is just plain "Fluff", not whether reality is real or not. Or what reality is. I have a quote on reality I say to myself almost on a daily ******** reality." - LoBo_23 neutral The point of this thread is to discuss what we believe is fluff in the psychic world, what we believe is myth and unreal. What is a common belief that you disagree with? THIS THREAD IS ABOUT TALKING ABOUT WHAT YOU THINK IS TOTAL BS/FLUFF AND WHAT YOU THINK IS NOT BS/FLUFF, INCLUDING TECHNIQUES, FORMS, AND PEOPLE. NO FLAMING
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 6:53 am
midkemiangreatone Please leave any major/minor religions out of this because that would be almost equivalent to an RPG-WP grenade being propelled at a nuke, a katana is involved too, somewhere.. im guessing uve played MGS 3/PO
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 7:53 am
midkemiangreatone What do you think is real, beyond a doubt(assuming reality is real)? What do you think is fake, beyond a doubt(assuming reality is not-fake)? Let's make a discussion to simply tell one another what WE believe is real, or not real. We can't assume that. There are as many realities as there are individual perceptions. The thing we call "reality" is nothing more than a consensus, where most of our realities overlap. This overlap results in the natural laws we take for granted, as well as most of the magical and psychic knowledge we share. As far as fake fluff, there are some things that lie outside of all realities, even a person's own. Delusions of grandeur are a great example of this, when realism and reason are thrown out the window in favor of glaring discrepancies. Obvious misinformation causes fluff as well; when people are deceived, their own reality contradicts itself, which often, but not always, signifies an error in the reality.
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 8:40 am
Azana Brown midkemiangreatone What do you think is real, beyond a doubt(assuming reality is real)? What do you think is fake, beyond a doubt(assuming reality is not-fake)? Let's make a discussion to simply tell one another what WE believe is real, or not real. We can't assume that. There are as many realities as there are individual perceptions. The thing we call "reality" is nothing more than a consensus, where most of our realities overlap. This overlap results in the natural laws we take for granted, as well as most of the magical and psychic knowledge we share. As far as fake fluff, there are some things that lie outside of all realities, even a person's own. Delusions of grandeur are a great example of this, when realism and reason are thrown out the window in favor of glaring discrepancies. Obvious misinformation causes fluff as well; when people are deceived, their own reality contradicts itself, which often, but not always, signifies an error in the reality. Lol, ownt.
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 8:46 am
midkemiangreatone What do you think is real, beyond a doubt(assuming reality is real)? What do you think is fake, beyond a doubt(assuming reality is not-fake)? Let's make a discussion to simply tell one another what WE believe is real, or not real. Please leave any major/minor religions out of this because that would be almost equivalent to an RPG-WP grenade being propelled at a nuke, a katana is involved too, somewhere.. Let the discussion begin!!! Reality is perception. Perceptions change. Reality is fluid. So if by "reality" you mean reliably tangible objects and immutable events, then there's no such thing. - Dean Koontz, 'Tick Tock"
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 11:15 am
i believe your the only person who can describe reality, because if you go by someone else's insight it would be completely ridiculous, not to mention impossible.
and.... the only thing i am completely sure is impossible, is time travel.
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 2:52 pm
"There are no facts, only interpretations." ~Friedrich Nietzsche
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 4:02 pm
Keziah Rose "There are no facts, only interpretations." ~Friedrich Nietzsche heart
- Joshua Ritter
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 4:35 pm
Joshua_Ritter Keziah Rose "There are no facts, only interpretations." ~Friedrich Nietzsche heart
- Joshua Ritter
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 4:35 pm
Keziah Rose "There are no facts, only interpretations." ~Friedrich Nietzsche heart I find it odd that a religious person is quoting Nietzsche like he's on their side. xd As for perceptions of reality, here's my take on it: If there is one reality, why can I see out of windows?
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 6:07 pm
Reality is what we are capable of perceiving. There is only one, as anything we perceive, or think we perceive, is part of that reality.
I say that people are mistakenly assuming that each individual has their own reality they exist in. They do not. We all exist in the nebulous mass we call consciousness. Any drastic deviation from what can be perceived by people is either an illusion generated by the mind, or potentially it is that the individual has become aware of another facet of the reality we exist in.
I guess the gist of what I'm trying to say is "one reality that we can discuss, multiple ways to exist in and experience said reality."
Or from the emo-nihilist perspective:
Why do you care? It does not matter, it will not matter, and has never at any point had any meaning to it. That said, do what you want to. Doesn't matter anyways.
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 6:23 pm
In the first post, I tried to state that we will keep philosophical discussions on reality out of this and focus on what we believe is just plain "Fluff", not whether reality is real or not. Or what reality is.
I have a quote on reality I say to myself almost on a daily ******** reality." - LoBo_23 neutral
The point of this thread is to discuss what we believe is fluff in the psychic world, what we believe is myth and unreal.
What is a common belief that you disagree with?
Here... I think that the common misconceptions of "Demons" is unreal. I don't think that "demons" are completely malevolent things sent out to ruin everyone's lives. Second, I don't think "Angels" are completely benevolent divine creatures sent here from God himself, and I don't even know why they have wings. The whole concept of either doesn't much make sense.
I think that outrageous claims require outrageous evidence. I believe it is immoral to eat animals. I believe in Joshua Ritter, and I believe in Terry Goodkind.
For individual people, I believe The FLCL Guy makes good points sometimes, is wrong sometimes, and comes off as a little "too" strong with his opinions at times.
I believe Blk is... probably crazy or something, but oh well.
I believe Khalida makes sense
I believe Dras is... just is. Though I disagree with her dislike of Anime.
I believe Mitsh is pretty ******** kool :/
I believe LoBo_23 is ******** crazy
I think Chocokarma needs more evidence
I think Anal_Jesus is a bit Cynical at times.
I believe Yagi is genius
I believe Yuri is... Iffy at times
I like eggrolls because they taste good.
I AM NOT A ******** NUGGET
WHAT DO YOU THINK!? HUH PUNK!?! HUH!??!?!?? scream
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 6:36 pm
Blind Guardian the 2nd Keziah Rose "There are no facts, only interpretations." ~Friedrich Nietzsche heart I find it odd that a religious person is quoting Nietzsche like he's on their side. xd As for perceptions of reality, here's my take on it: If there is one reality, why can I see out of windows? Who ever said that I was a religious person? biggrin
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 6:36 pm
MikeeBoi1029 midkemiangreatone Please leave any major/minor religions out of this because that would be almost equivalent to an RPG-WP grenade being propelled at a nuke, a katana is involved too, somewhere.. im guessing uve played MGS 3/PO What the bloody hell is that?
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 6:45 pm
midkemiangreatone MikeeBoi1029 midkemiangreatone Please leave any major/minor religions out of this because that would be almost equivalent to an RPG-WP grenade being propelled at a nuke, a katana is involved too, somewhere.. im guessing uve played MGS 3/PO What the bloody hell is that? Metal Gear Solid 3 cool
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