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PhaedraMcSpiffy

PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 12:49 pm


Depressing stuff.

Feministing has a post about how Army of God, a certain "pro-life" group, is promoting a video of a reinactment of the killing of an abortion provider. The post links to an amazing post about anti-abortion violence (which the author describes as terrorism, and rightly so) here:Frederick Clarkson | Domestic Terrorism and the Religious Right .

And sadly, the Feministing post has got an antichoice whacko posting s**t like this:

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Abortion is murder and clearly so wrong. Someday soon, this period of time where it was okay to murder children will be looked back upon with the same disgust we look back upon slavery and the internment of the Japanese-Americans during WWII and the way we treated women for so long in this country.


Is it just me, or does anyone else ******** cringe when they hear people compare legal abortion to slavery? Do they not see the hypocrisy?

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Abortion is and always was a patriarchal scheme to make access to women easier for men in search of easy and fast sex.


Yes, because you'll totally win over feminists by ignoring the female libido and assuming women never want sex. That's not an old bullshit stereotype at all!

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One of my best friend's is a model of feminism and has been my mentor. I was shocked a couple of years ago when she suddenly became pro-life. She explained. She was pregnant with her first child -- about in her late 5th month -- when she began cramping and bleeding. She fell on the floor at her office and the paramedics arrived shortly.

She said, "After all the pro-abortion rallies and my years of counseling women that 'it isn't a baby, feel free to kill it' and all the other lies. As I layed there bleeding I heard myself screaming to the paramedics, "Save my BABY, Save my BABY". It wasn't a fetus or zygote or any of those other lies. It was a baby. And, she lived.


It sounds like such a true story. rolleyes

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Thank you for your calm and reasoned disagreement. I understand your conv0lusions in your attempt to justify the murder of babies, but as you knew when you typed it, it just falls flat.


XD

This one's so pathetic it's funny.

"Thank you for disagreeing so nicely, but as you know, your argument is WRONG."

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Two points: The "parasite" argument is also very old and so easily dealt with. How is an unborn child any less a parasite than a one-month old baby, or a 2-yr old baby? Or a teenager who really isn't able to support themselves. My 88 yr old grandmother lives with me now and is very sick and sleeps like 22 hours a day. Sorry to say this but by your definitions she is a parasite and it would be alright if I killed her.


Two words: Physically. Attached.

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Secondly, the "no one is pro-abortion they are just pro-choice" is really silly. Back in the late 1840's and 1850's the plantation owners of the south knew that the days of legal slavery were numbered, so they actually had an association and hired people who would eventually be called "lobbyists" in Washington, DC. They pointed out that slavery was a "personal" decision and each state could decide for themselves, each state could "choose" whether slavery would be legal there. And that's what we had; states where slavery was legal and states where it was not.

But the anti-slavery movement very justifyingly grew and the plantation owners fought back and hired a New York Public Relations firm (times haven't changed much have they) to place articles and run Ads in support of their position.

On January 16, 1851 they ran full page ads in 12 U.S. Daily news spelling out their position. They aid their movement was not "Pro-Slavery" but it was "Pro-Choice" (YEP, the same disgusting phrase). They said if you didn't believe in owning a slave, then don't own one. But you had no right to interfere in the rights of others to own one. They said they weren't "Pro-Slavery" but they -- in a free country -- were "Pro-choice" on slavery.

"Pro-choice" then was just a code word for: It's okay to own slaves. "Pro-choice" now simply means: It's okay to murder a baby.


Wtf?

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And the slave-owners argued it was okay to enslave negroes because they weren't really people; and the Nazis said they same about he Jews; and now we say it's okay to murder babies for the same reason... sigh. Genocide is genocide.


Godwin's Law!

Whoo, so, anyway, discuss:
Idiotic trolls.
Blatant misogyny.
Anti-Abortion Violence: A terrorist act?
Hypocrisy of "pro-life"

Edit: Talk2Action has more on this, a huge article with many creepy pictures.
PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 2:23 pm


I'm getting tired of the idea that abortion is being used to make women "easier". If anything, by forcing us to carry what we may not want, stripping us of our rights, and making sure that we know that if we are disgusting creatures and low-life murderers if we want to control our bodies degrades us more than anything, even making sure that we can have an abortion if we choose.

Stupid anti-woman views that are afraid to see their hypocrisy.

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