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devilisnotagoodlookingman
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 Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 11:59 pm
How do you feel about iraq, I wanna know.....if you want to know how I feel about it, then watch my video I made http://youtube.com/watch?v=z0n_s6RXBmgif not watch it for the music maybe I can bring you to my side
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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 11:57 am
Great vid Zein. I don't like wars either. You know...I often get the feeling that adults feel like kids are foolish and naive for not anting war...And I feel like adult are foolish and closed minded for kiling people like ourselves.
It really makes me upset becuase I just get this feeling that we're going to completely destroy humanity with our own hands. And if we don't, we're going to damage the earth so much in the process that IT will kill us so that it can repair itself and allow the other species to keep living.
I'm giving you my opinion even though I've never held a gun. But I feel like that's the kind of opinion we need right now...
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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 5:52 pm
Too bad I'm on dial up I'd love to watch it... Check this out it's an excerpt from Chapter 19 of the memoirs of George Bush Sr. (A World Transformed) Quote: Trying to eliminate Saddam, extending the ground war into an occupation of Iraq, would have violated our guideline about not changing objectives in midstream, engaging in "mission creep," and would have incurred incalculable human and political costs. Apprehending him was probably impossible. We had been unable to find Noriega in Panama, which we knew intimately. We would have been forced to occupy Baghdad and, in effect, rule Iraq. The coalition would instantly have collapsed, the Arabs deserting it in anger and other allies pulling out as well. Under the circumstances, there was no viable "exit strategy" we could see, violating another of our principles. Furthermore, we had been self-consciously trying to set a pattern for handling aggression in the post-Cold War world. Going in and occupying Iraq, thus unilaterally exceeding the United Nations' mandate, would have destroyed the precedent of international response to aggression that we hoped to establish. Had we gone the invasion route, the United States could conceivably still be an occupying power in a bitterly hostile land. It would have been a dramatically different — and perhaps barren — outcome.Even his dad knew better than to invade.... *Sigh* @Psy Yen: My cousin once told me that the only reason the earth keeps us here is to make the 2 things it can't make itself: plastic and martinis... And eventually we will either A.) piss it off. Or B.) Make enough plastic and martinis. and it will simply shuff us off ..
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 1:18 am
Damn right davis, and its sad how our last few pres have been
we need someone new, someone black (you know what I mean) HE WENT TO MY HIGHSCHOOL DAMN RIGHT AND HE'LL BE THE NEXT PRES
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devilisnotagoodlookingman
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 6:17 pm
Final-Destiny-Zein Damn right davis, and its sad how our last few pres have been we need someone new, someone black (you know what I mean) HE WENT TO MY HIGHSCHOOL DAMN RIGHT AND HE'LL BE THE NEXT PRES Hey watch it bud... If Clinton could run again I'd vote for him... In a heartbeat... He was a good president Good foreign policy, Great economic tactics (Until bush got in office we were out of debt for the first time in who know how long), and he was a good speaker.. So what if he cheated on his wife ... Thats not right but that's go NOTHING to do with how he runs the country... i PERSONALLY would rather Have a pres who sleeps with an intern as opposed to a president who starts a war for oil.... Just sayin....
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 9:31 pm
Davis Shadenhand Final-Destiny-Zein Damn right davis, and its sad how our last few pres have been we need someone new, someone black (you know what I mean) HE WENT TO MY HIGHSCHOOL DAMN RIGHT AND HE'LL BE THE NEXT PRES Hey watch it bud... If Clinton could run again I'd vote for him... In a heartbeat... He was a good president Good foreign policy, Great economic tactics (Until bush got in office we were out of debt for the first time in who know how long), and he was a good speaker.. So what if he cheated on his wife ... Thats not right but that's go NOTHING to do with how he runs the country... i PERSONALLY would rather Have a pres who sleeps with an intern as opposed to a president who starts a war for oil.... Just sayin.... the thign is bush and clinton have a thing when thats why if hillary wins the next pres they'll just train someone like bush to take over, so end this vote black and never turn back, we need a pres that can speak too its something we need someone who can speak
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devilisnotagoodlookingman
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 10:26 pm
Final-Destiny-Zein Davis Shadenhand Final-Destiny-Zein Damn right davis, and its sad how our last few pres have been we need someone new, someone black (you know what I mean) HE WENT TO MY HIGHSCHOOL DAMN RIGHT AND HE'LL BE THE NEXT PRES Hey watch it bud... If Clinton could run again I'd vote for him... In a heartbeat... He was a good president Good foreign policy, Great economic tactics (Until bush got in office we were out of debt for the first time in who know how long), and he was a good speaker.. So what if he cheated on his wife ... Thats not right but that's go NOTHING to do with how he runs the country... i PERSONALLY would rather Have a pres who sleeps with an intern as opposed to a president who starts a war for oil.... Just sayin.... the thign is bush and clinton have a thing when thats why if hillary wins the next pres they'll just train someone like bush to take over, so end this vote black and never turn back, we need a pres that can speak too its something we need someone who can speak Yea I missed what ever it was you were trying to say there But I think you misunderstood me I'd vote for Bill... I'm not voting this election.. I refuse to vote for someone I don't think will make a good leader... Obama is only leading because he's backed by Oprah, and From what I've heard he's a racist and intends on making a lot of pro minority changes when infact they should recalculate because these "minorities" are really not... (Lived in houston Tx... Try telling me Hispanic is a minority after spending a week in south houston... And after 24 hours in 5th ward You'll believe that the entire world is black...) Not being racist just speaking from personal experience ...
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Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 1:32 am
Davis Shadenhand Final-Destiny-Zein Davis Shadenhand Final-Destiny-Zein Damn right davis, and its sad how our last few pres have been we need someone new, someone black (you know what I mean) HE WENT TO MY HIGHSCHOOL DAMN RIGHT AND HE'LL BE THE NEXT PRES Hey watch it bud... If Clinton could run again I'd vote for him... In a heartbeat... He was a good president Good foreign policy, Great economic tactics (Until bush got in office we were out of debt for the first time in who know how long), and he was a good speaker.. So what if he cheated on his wife ... Thats not right but that's go NOTHING to do with how he runs the country... i PERSONALLY would rather Have a pres who sleeps with an intern as opposed to a president who starts a war for oil.... Just sayin.... the thign is bush and clinton have a thing when thats why if hillary wins the next pres they'll just train someone like bush to take over, so end this vote black and never turn back, we need a pres that can speak too its something we need someone who can speak Yea I missed what ever it was you were trying to say there But I think you misunderstood me I'd vote for Bill... I'm not voting this election.. I refuse to vote for someone I don't think will make a good leader... Obama is only leading because he's backed by Oprah, and From what I've heard he's a racist and intends on making a lot of pro minority changes when infact they should recalculate because these "minorities" are really not... (Lived in houston Tx... Try telling me Hispanic is a minority after spending a week in south houston... And after 24 hours in 5th ward You'll believe that the entire world is black...) Not being racist just speaking from personal experience ... Yeah his from hawaii and I am from hawaii so I know as being from here, white is the minority in our island, I can't vote I am to young and he should win because he can speak he is something we haven't had before we need something new some new blood a change in our system, but hillary could do that to as being a women, just can't respect her or her ideas though (not that I am sexist) I just plan old don't like her
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devilisnotagoodlookingman
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Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 9:59 am
I agree with you on Hilary Clinton. She has had no past experiences with Government or anything with military. That's a huge problem. Plus, shes a girl. This is coming from a girl so don't dare say I'm sexist. >_>.
Girls are emotional. That's not bad at all. I don't get why some people get worked up about it. If something happened to our country that involved people dieing or us going further into debt or ANYTHING along those lines she would spend two days crying then come out and say we need to all mourn for our dead. (Don't think I don't honor those who have losed their lives) But my point is she would have no plain of action. She wouldn't know how to deal with it. And that's a huge reason why I wouldn't vote for her. Also the people that are funding her happen to be former terrorist. . . does that sound fishy at all. I know they can't wait for her to be president so they can come in and destroy us.
As for the war. . . . I completely disagree. You make it sound as if we are there for no reason. People don't forget the past. Oil is not the reason we are there. We don't even get our oil from their. Most is brought in from Africa. We are their to help set up a government that is stable. Thousands of soldeirs aren't dieing each week. You would have heard about it on the news. They make huge deals about the death of three solders. It is sad and their lives probably aren't worth it but the lives of the hundreds of people killed in the twin towers and the people being killed in Iraq aren't worth it either. We are not killing the people their. They are killing each other. parents send their children with bombs strapped onto them into a crowd and have them set it off to kill everyone around them. We are their to help keep order and to help the government.
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Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 10:18 am
SongsOfTheEnchantedHeart I agree with you on Hilary Clinton. She has had no past experiences with Government or anything with military. That's a huge problem. Plus, shes a girl. This is coming from a girl so don't dare say I'm sexist. >_>. Girls are emotional. That's not bad at all. I don't get why some people get worked up about it. If something happened to our country that involved people dieing or us going further into debt or ANYTHING along those lines she would spend two days crying then come out and say we need to all mourn for our dead. (Don't think I don't honor those who have losed their lives) But my point is she would have no plain of action. She wouldn't know how to deal with it. And that's a huge reason why I wouldn't vote for her. Also the people that are funding her happen to be former terrorist. . . does that sound fishy at all. I know they can't wait for her to be president so they can come in and destroy us. As for the war. . . . I completely disagree. You make it sound as if we are there for no reason. People don't forget the past. Oil is not the reason we are there. We don't even get our oil from their. Most is brought in from Africa. We are their to help set up a government that is stable. Thousands of soldeirs aren't dieing each week. You would have heard about it on the news. They make huge deals about the death of three solders. It is sad and their lives probably aren't worth it but the lives of the hundreds of people killed in the twin towers and the people being killed in Iraq aren't worth it either. We are not killing the people their. They are killing each other. parents send their children with bombs strapped onto them into a crowd and have them set it off to kill everyone around them. We are their to help keep order and to help the government. *sigh*... We're in Iraq... Fighting a war because we took out Saddam (something we had absolutely No reason to do)... he didn't destroy our towers... Remember we were going after Bin laden? Then suddenly our president decided (after realizing that we couldn't catch the real criminal) "Well since we're over here anyway.. Lets take care of what my daddy couldn't...". So the towers have nothing to do with it.. Stop brining it up... I'm sick and tired of people using the deaths of Those innocents as a crutch for the war machine.... And just for the record Since a large portion of the people over there support terrorism wouldn't it seem likely that if we were to leave it with a democratic government that the terrorists would still get into power either through elections or other wise? And WHY the hell aren't we looking at Pakistan... Nukes + Megalomaniac who is rapidly becoming a dictator = BAD IDEA!!! just saying.... EDIT: @ zein: I don't think the change we need lies in race or bloodline... I think It lies in common sense and decent policy ... We need some one willing to over come the Bipartisanship of our nation, We need some one willing to use diplomacy before acting.. We need a republicans sense of moral values and a democrats economic and diplomatic know how... We need some one who has served in a real war, some one who knows when to be passionate and when to be cold for the sake of the nation... But above all We need a leader.. but that'll never happen... And if it did... he'd get hit by a magic bullet... Just my opinion... lol
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devilisnotagoodlookingman
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Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 11:24 am
um song we get most of our oil from the middle east thats why the first bush went to war, now were geting the terroist thigns even though they are attacking us cause we are screwing there country for oil
As for pres I am independent so I go both ways but Bama is just someone who can lead as for the repub I do like the guy who said he would try to get all nukes from around the world to be well destroyed and gottne rid off, a world without nukes is a good idea and they support it because we are destroying they're country, we should try to find one person of the group and get them to go and talk to who ever to make a peacefull agreement as in WE WILL LEAVE THEM THE ******** ALONE IF THE PROMISE TO DO THE SAME TO US
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Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 4:21 pm
Final-Destiny-Zein um song we get most of our oil from the middle east thats why the first bush went to war, now were geting the terroist thigns even though they are attacking us cause we are screwing there country for oil As for pres I am independent so I go both ways but Bama is just someone who can lead as for the repub I do like the guy who said he would try to get all nukes from around the world to be well destroyed and gottne rid off, a world without nukes is a good idea and they support it because we are destroying they're country, we should try to find one person of the group and get them to go and talk to who ever to make a peacefull agreement as in WE WILL LEAVE THEM THE ******** ALONE IF THE PROMISE TO DO THE SAME TO US *sigh* Ok not to be mean man but if your going head to head with some one know your facts... The first bush went over there to liberate Kuwait after Iraq had invaded... We accomplished our objective and pulled out... (like we should have done this time) ... and as far as the nukes go that will never happen... If anything all it would accomplish is a second cold war... Besides People break treaties... and I'd hate to have us get caught with our pants down.. Sorry bro ... I like you but this is politics... Edit: and do you have proof that obama can lead? Because I honestly doubt he'd be able to get this far if it wasn't for Oprah...
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devilisnotagoodlookingman
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Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 9:08 pm
Davis Shadenhand Final-Destiny-Zein um song we get most of our oil from the middle east thats why the first bush went to war, now were geting the terroist thigns even though they are attacking us cause we are screwing there country for oil As for pres I am independent so I go both ways but Bama is just someone who can lead as for the repub I do like the guy who said he would try to get all nukes from around the world to be well destroyed and gottne rid off, a world without nukes is a good idea and they support it because we are destroying they're country, we should try to find one person of the group and get them to go and talk to who ever to make a peacefull agreement as in WE WILL LEAVE THEM THE ******** ALONE IF THE PROMISE TO DO THE SAME TO US *sigh* Ok not to be mean man but if your going head to head with some one know your facts... The first bush went over there to liberate Kuwait after Iraq had invaded... We accomplished our objective and pulled out... (like we should have done this time) ... and as far as the nukes go that will never happen... If anything all it would accomplish is a second cold war... Besides People break treaties... and I'd hate to have us get caught with our pants down.. Sorry bro ... I like you but this is politics... Edit: and do you have proof that obama can lead? Because I honestly doubt he'd be able to get this far if it wasn't for Oprah... Yeah I know, I been out of my politics lately bercause I got finals coming so I thinking of s**t like math french and global warm it sucks
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Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 4:21 pm
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Zein the war in Iraq is justified whether you enjoy it or not. Thousands are not dieing and we are not killing them. We are their to set up a government. . . that's all that I have to say that present.
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Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 5:54 pm
SongsOfTheEnchantedHeart >.> Zein the war in Iraq is justified whether you enjoy it or not. Thousands are not dieing and we are not killing them. We are their to set up a government. . . that's all that I have to say that present. Sorry But I disagree... If this war was justified we'd be chasing the person who Attacked us to begin with instead of getting in the middle of issues that don't concern us... Saddam tried to kill Bush Sr. And Bush Jr. Wanted to get him back for it.. That's what this whole war boils down to... He realized that 9/11 was his ticket to get over there and he took it... We shouldn't be over there if anything we should have carpet bombed them.
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