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Dukes

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 10:54 pm


C'mon guys, January is now upon us, we need to decide some things.

First thing we need to decide: Who will preside over these elections? EDIT: THIS MEANS WHO WE GIVE THE DUTY OF COUNTING THE VOTES, NOTHING MORE. EVERYTHING ELSE WILL HAVE TO BE DEALT WITH BY US.

Options:
A. Draft Nymphie
B. Crew
C. Other (Provide Suggestion)

Second thing: How will these elections go?

Options:
A. One Round, Straight Shot
B. Two Rounds, Prelims and Finals
C. Other (Provide Suggestion)

Third thing: If it turns out it is decided we will have prelims, how should voting work?

Options:
A. Same as the regular elections -- One Vote Per Person
B. Multiple votes per person in prelims
C. Other (Provide Suggestion)

Fourth thing: How long should voting last?

Options:
A. Three days
B. One Week
C. Two Weeks
D. Other (Provide Suggestion)

Fifth thing: When should voting begin?

Options (I am limiting this to weeks in January at this point, if someone has a complaint please explain it.):
A. First full week of January
B. Second full week of January
C. Third full week of January
D. Fourth full week of January

If there is anything anyone can think of that we need to decide please post here saying so or PM me. Here's a voting form thing too.


1. Who's in charge?
Choice:
Reason (if Other):

2. How will the elections be done?
Choice:
Reason (if Other):

3. If prelims, how will voting work?
Choice:
Reason (if Other):

4. How long will voting last?
Choice:
Reason (if Other):

5. When does voting start?
Choice:
PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 8:24 pm


1. Stickied, THIS NEEDS TO BE SEEN, or else your voice WON'T be heard, and it'll be no one's fault but your own... >_> And we need to do this SOON!

2:

#1: EDIT: Well, I still don't think we can force Nymmie to count the votes... we're supposed to do the WHOLE thing ourselves... And having just any one of us to count can bring up issues of impartiality... Also, I'm not so sure about forcing the crew to count the votes... I mean, if someone there wants to step forward and be the "voice of impartiality" and do it, then that's great (and I'm not pointing the finger at only myself here... *cough*)... Or, we could let whoever's running the election do it, provided we trust them... (okay, maybe that one's a little more directed at me...) And though I'm still not sure if I will, knowing that someone else can count votes "impartially" (if I do run) is enough to make me "reconsider" my position... o_o (Not that you couldn't trust me to be impartial with myself in the running, if I was to, but, it'd look bad... o.o) Nymmie said she'd be willing to count votes, so I say we go with that... ^_^

#2: I'm going to have to say that I've been convinced that doing a two-step election is the best idea, prelims and finals. Now, for the prelims, I think it should be a "volunteer" operation... You say you wanna run, you get put on a list... list gets displayed up, and people vote on list... Top 3 to 5 people are going to the finals... For the voting (Prelims only), I like the idea of letting people vote for more than one candidate... then the people who really "shine" will wind up in the top... then, for the finals, I think the winner should win by about 2/3 (66.7%)... give or take If there's a close match, then there'll be another election, between the two candidates with the highest votes.

#3: I'd have to say that voting can't be too short, since we really need participation, but can't be too long... we gotta get this in gear... I say that prelims should last at least three days, but no more than a week... and about the same time allotted for the finals...

#4: I think that voting should begin SOON... as in NEXT WEEK if at all possible... I'm just going to say the second week of Jan. ^_^


Other:

I'm going to start that list of runners NOW... [ad]And I'd REALLY like to encourage posting in my candidate thread... Don't you want to know what your choices are going to do?[/ad]

Sibeiko


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 2:11 am


»»»Pixie«««

1. We do it ourself and ask for crew involvement if we ABSOLUTELY need to, but be prepared to come up with a backup.

2. I prettymuch agree with what sib said. Prelims are a good idea and a really close tie isn't.

3. A week might be too long. 5 days should be good though. We NEED to put up threads in main forum and sniped D though. :3

4. ********, I'd say we need to do prelims sometime the FIRST WEEK OF JANUARY. We need to get these done. I say we should probably have them planned veryvery soon. A few more replies in this thread. I'll link it in the D?

PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 6:39 am



Options:
A. Draft Nymphie - blaugh I would forget elections, find a troll in the GD and let them be captain and do whatever they want. So I dont think me doing it is a good idea.
B. Crew - Like I said in my other thread, this is not crew's responsibility
C. Other (Provide Suggestion) - I guess since Sib wants to do it let Sib do it.

Second thing: How will these elections go?

Options:
B. Two Rounds, Prelims and Finals - I like this way best.


Third thing: If it turns out it is decided we will have prelims, how should voting work?

Options:

B. Multiple votes per person in prelims - I think 2 votes each will be good.

Fourth thing: How long should voting last?

Options:

D. Other - 5 days?

Fifth thing: When should voting begin?

Options (I am limiting this to weeks in January at this point, if someone has a complaint please explain it.):

B. Second full week of January - I dont know much about candidates yet and dont want to vote until im sure on who I want to vote for. I think others probably feel the same way.

Nymphiedora
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 7:48 am


What I wrote a couple days ago. ...

This is all based off of the ideas that Sib and Dukes have given for running the election.

Primaries = Round one - we all vote for the top 3 candidates we think would make the best captains. Here most votes shouldn't be a problem. Running them from Jan 16th to the 22nd -ish for some approximate dates.

Final Round - With the top 3 candidates chosen we have the main election to choose who would make the best captain among them. In this case having a majority vote of at least 60% would be best, because depending on what happens a close race could cause some problems. Hopefully there will be a clear enough majority that there won't be a need for runoff elections. These could run from the 22nd to the 29th, leaving a couple of days in case they're needed.

As for Dukes's idea of having a quiz for the voters...that's a bit much. Having a thread to post responses from candidates like the question threads could be an option. That could run from now till the last day of the main elections. There voters could PM their questions to the candidate and the question with the response could be posted in the thread as well. As
Captain they'll have to deal with PMs about guild matters so they should be able to answer all questions.

And no way should crew make any final decision on who gets to be captain, unless something seriously complicated and messed up happens making it the only choice. :/

This is all just my opinion too.
PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 10:41 am


1. Who's in charge?
Choice:A. Draft Nymphie
Reason (if Other):

2. How will the elections be done?
Choice: B. Prelims and Finals.
Reason (if Other):

3. If prelims, how will voting work?
Choice: A. Same as regular elections - One vote per person.
Reason (if Other):

4. How long will voting last?
Choice: B. One Week
Reason (if Other):

5. When does voting start?
Choice: A. First Full Week of January

`Kashi



Druki


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 11:00 am


1. Who's in charge?
Choice: C
Reason (if Other): This is the guild's choice. The decision of whom they choose should be up to them. Thus, if they want a candidate or Nymphie or a Crew member to lead it, they should choose so.

2. How will the elections be done?
Choice: B
Reason (if Other):

3. If prelims, how will voting work?
Choice: A
Reason (if Other):

4. How long will voting last?
Choice: D
Reason (if Other): 5 days. That is what Nymphie suggested in her announcement regarding Captain elections and I believe we should take that into consideration.

5. When does voting start?
Choice: E.
Reason: The time suggested by Nymphie is not a full week.
PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 11:27 am


1. Who's in charge?
Choice: C
Reason (if Other): The reason why we're doing this is because Nymphie is retiring, so it seems like she wouldn't willingly do it, if I'm guessing correctly. Crew... that's only a portion of the guild, so it wouldn't work. So, I think the guild, as a whole, should take at least some part of it. Sib volunteered, he could if he wanted to. XD

2. How will the elections be done?
Choice: b
Reason (if Other):

3. If prelims, how will voting work?
Choice: A
Reason (if Other):

4. How long will voting last?
Choice: C
Reason (if Other):

5. When does voting start?
Choice: B
Reason? Plenty of time. We can prepare, since it's the last full week of December, plus it's not too far off, so we don't have to rush. XD

`Aine Chievious

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 11:43 am


1. Who's in charge?
Choice: B - Don't bug Nymphie, and it'll give Crew something to do.
Reason (if Other):

2. How will the elections be done?
Choice: B - Let us know what our options are before we blind vote and kill ourselves.
Reason (if Other):

3. If prelims, how will voting work?
Choice: B - It gives you the opportunity to support all the good ones instead of a one focus.
Reason (if Other):

4. How long will voting last?
Choice: B - One Week. It should be enough for each round.
Reason (if Other):

5. When does voting start?
Choice: E - Prelims are Second Full Week, Finals Forth full week.
Give each candidate some time to rally.
PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 11:51 am


1. Who's in charge?
Choice: C
Reason: We should do it ourselves. Making Nymphie do it would just be dumb, and we can get crew involved if we need it, but otherwise we should be able to handle it. :3

2. How will the elections be done?
Choice: B - Yay for prelims and finals. It seems like things would be less chaotic. o-o
Reason:

3. If prelims, how will voting work?
Choice: A
Reason:

4. How long will voting last?
Choice: D
Reason: 5 days sounds pretty good. Not too long, not too short.

5. When does voting start?
Choice: B - I haven't been around much, and I would love a little more time to review the candidates and make my decision. <3

Tedie Behr


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 12:05 pm


1. Who's in charge?
Choice: BHK would say a mix of A and B
Reason (if Other): N/A

2. How will the elections be done?
Choice: A
Reason (if Other): N/A

3. If prelims, how will voting work?
Choice: A
Reason (if Other): N/A

4. How long will voting last?
Choice: C
Reason (if Other): N/A

5. When does voting start?
Choice: A
PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 12:48 pm


1. Who's in charge?
Choice: Crew

2. How will the elections be done?
Choice: B. Two Rounds, Prelims and Finals

3. If prelims, how will voting work?
Choice: B. Multiple votes per person in prelims

4. How long will voting last?
Choice: C. Two Weeks

5. When does voting start?
Choice: D. Fourth full week of January

Merty


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 6:47 pm


1. Who's in charge?
Choice: C: Us the Other People
Reason: I think the people who want to run should take care of it. Nymmie has enough on her plate. Also the crew have other things in the guild to take care of.

2. How will the elections be done?
Choice: B. Two Rounds, Prelims and Finals

3. If prelims, how will voting work?
Choice: A. Same as the regular elections -- One Vote Per Person

4. How long will voting last?
Choice: D. Other
Reason: I think Five Days is Good

5. When does voting start?
Choice: A. First full week of January
PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 10:03 pm


I ask that everyone who voted C (Other) for question 1 please check the edit I made to clarify what I meant and if necessary please change your answer. I personally feel we should draft Nymphie to count the votes because she's the only one who won't be affected by having to do it, as she's not running. If crew does it, it may cause certain crew to feel they cannot fairly run in an election they are counting the votes for.

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Nymphiedora
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 6:50 am


Dukes
I ask that everyone who voted C (Other) for question 1 please check the edit I made to clarify what I meant and if necessary please change your answer. I personally feel we should draft Nymphie to count the votes because she's the only one who won't be affected by having to do it, as she's not running. If crew does it, it may cause certain crew to feel they cannot fairly run in an election they are counting the votes for.
I'm fine with counting the votes whee I like it better that way anyways because im nosy like that <3

Are the votes going to be private, and in pms, or in a thread? I dont want to vote in a thread
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