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Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 9:47 pm
Research #1 Ok, recently my friend and I were messing with psiballs, and I got an idea. The idea was to make two psiballs, one filled with Fire energy, and the other Water, and then to squish them together, spin the combined form together really fast, and break the center (the only thing separating the two elements) at the right moment to fuse the elemental energy together. We then sealed the result in a clear quartz crystal ( which I wear around my neck) and repeated this process with Earth and Air. We fused the resulting energy into the crystal with the Fire/Water mix, and the energy within grew immensely. What I'm wondering is if we created Ether, the higher fifth (yes some say there are five) element. And if not, what did we make?
Research #2
Directly after this first expirement, I began to wonder: If there are primary elements, what are their sub-elements ( or secondaries)? If someone could compile information on this and graph it out,( I was thinking something like a snowflake type layout) it would not only be helpful for me but for everyone researching elemental energies. If someone could make a graph such as this (and post it on this page) I would be willing to personally pay in Gaia Gold, obviously, a small sum of around 500-1000 g.
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Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 12:25 pm
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Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 7:50 am
Well I guess I'll try saying my opinion on this.
I'm not 100% what you mean by "Fire energy" (or water, air and earth actually) but if it's what I think you mean by that, then I'll have to say that those aren't element actually. The "fire energy" you filled in it was actually your image of what fire is. Same goes for air, earth and water. If only an image work, it mean you can just easily take an image of anything to you and fill a psibal with it. For exemple, light, darkness, void, cat, bird, people, chocolate, house.. and so on..
if I am wrong then explain to me what you mean by "Fire/earth/air/water energy"
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 5:44 pm
Some shaman ideas involve (with permission) taking the energy of an animal, plant, or mineral for empowering or healing purposes (spirit medicine). The "four elements" are personified and grouped with different things depending on view points, so I don't see why a similar thing can't be done with elemental energy.
Er, as I'm told, different realms do or can have different/extra elements, and depending on what you think you may have something being a sub-element in our realm. The chinese elements are different then the ones listed here, but wood would be earth, right? so would metal. What about something cliche like lightning, would that be water, air, or fire?
Eather, ether, aether, I don't know if thats what you made. If you think ether is something different then spirit, sure, I think its a possibility you made it, but I dunno.
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Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 12:00 pm
sloth009 Directly after this first expirement, I began to wonder: If there are primary elements, what are their sub-elements ( or secondaries)? If someone could compile information on this and graph it out,( I was thinking something like a snowflake type layout) it would not only be helpful for me but for everyone researching elemental energies. If someone could make a graph such as this (and post it on this page) I would be willing to personally pay in Gaia Gold, obviously, a small sum of around 500-1000 g. Depends on the system you're using. If you're going by the original system, there are no 'sub elements' whatsoever. It's unfortunate how little of the original system is written upon in most currently published texts, but it's actually pretty darned specific in terms of how it works and such. One thing we need to keep in mind first and foremost is that the Four was originally designed as a way of explaining mechanistics of the universe, NOT AS A SYSTEM OF MAGIC. We're already pulling it somewhat out of context by using it in that manner, so at the very least we aught to understand where it originally came from. Of course, if you don't give a rat's a** (no offense to rats intended) about the original Aristostelian system, experiment on your own and mess with it as you like... but do recognize that what you're doing isn't the same as the original system. That's all I ask. wink Oh, and I guess a note on the first point, in the system, you technically don't 'combine' elements in that way. A substance is composed of a mixture of elements, but two elements cannot suddenly become one thing. The point of the elements is that they're elementary - like atoms, combining two hydrogen and one oxygen doesn't destroy the fact it's made of hydrogen and oxygen (we just call the new compound water). In the system, elements are changed themselves moreso by changing their qualities, not by mixing them. But... I don't think I'm explaining this quite right at the moment. sweatdrop
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Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 12:22 pm
I don't get it. It sounds like BS to me, honestly. Explain your methods and prove your results and I may believe you.
But as for lightning, that is Plasma. I believe it to be a combination- In is of air, since air particles rubbing create it, water because of the nitrogen-rich water particles helping catalyze, earth because of the polar opposite to the air particles, and fire because of the heat and exothermic energy released.
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