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 Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 9:45 pm
me Witchboy I challenge each and every one of you to do something selfless and with absolutely no reward at least once this week! if not every day! I think its time especially in all this uncertainty of our age to make a possitive ripple in the universe! post your good deed here no matter how small or how grandios, lets see what we can do as lightworkers shall we! i saved someone 300 dollars through work as a sprint agent and helped him out of his debt! Score for the golden orb. There is a philosophy I live on. It is the way of three orbs. There is the black orb, which is taking the sacrifice of others to benefit the self. There is the red orb: SACRIFICING FROM THE SELF FOR THE BENEFIT OF OTHERS. Then there is the GOLDEN ORB: Equal benefit to both through enjoyable sacrifice. The ONLY true way that what you're suggesting is anything but harmful to the self is if you TRULY enjoy sacrificing. If you give with no intention benefit to yourself, not even happiness, then it is the red orb, and that is just being dumb. I refuse to meet this challenge, I simply refuse. It's impossible unless you hate knowing someone else has something. I think this type of self-sacrifice is just another path to loathing life itself, and loathing yourself. If I had not read the Sword of Truth novels I would have agreed, but... Seeing the entire world enslaved into a utopian society where EVERYONE sacrifices to the other for no reason, and everyone is equal was a HORRIBLE vision. If you can't enjoy your own successes in life, including making other people happy, then you're off balance and need a little more self interest, in my opinion. (Disclaimer: This is all personal opinion) EDIT: If you don't enjoy benefiting someone else... WHAT THE ********!? Mitsh suggested I turn this into a topic because he liked the philosophy behind it. So I did. ^_^ <3 Mitsh EDIT: Crap... I coded this wrong. "I" wrote the "******** that...blah...blah... orb thing" Not WitchBoy. Sorry sweatdrop redface
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 2:54 am
Can..Can I strangle him? nee nee can I ? Just tell me where he live... stressed
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 8:40 am
compelling idea that man has....
If you dont enjoy helping people, then you have no place helping them. I dont think forcing someone to help is necasarily the best idea... in fact, if you dont want to help someone, you dont have to, its up to you to be the good samaritan.
that being said, can some one tell me his IP? i wanna piss him off...
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 8:48 am
You do realize it was Lobo that wrote that philosophical reply, yes? Or are you talking about wanting to strangle the person who proposed the challenge...?
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 9:01 am
the challenge dude. sorry if i was unclear of that... the challenge dude is the victim of my disdain.
still anyone got his IP adress? i wanna annoy the hell outta him
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 11:01 am
Quote: It's impossible unless you hate knowing someone else has something. I think this type of self-sacrifice is just another path to loathing life itself, and loathing yourself. What a fool.
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 1:49 pm
Witchboy Score for the golden orb. There is a philosophy I live on. It is the way of three orbs. There is the black orb, which is taking the sacrifice of others to benefit the self. There is the red orb: SACRIFICING FROM THE SELF FOR THE BENEFIT OF OTHERS. Then there is the GOLDEN ORB: Equal benefit to both through enjoyable sacrifice. The ONLY true way that what you're suggesting is anything but harmful to the self is if you TRULY enjoy sacrificing. If you give with no intention benefit to yourself, not even happiness, then it is the red orb, and that is just being dumb. I refuse to meet this challenge, I simply refuse. It's impossible unless you hate knowing someone else has something. I think this type of self-sacrifice is just another path to loathing life itself, and loathing yourself. If I had not read the Sword of Truth novels I would have agreed, but... Seeing the entire world enslaved into a utopian society where EVERYONE sacrifices to the other for no reason, and everyone is equal was a HORRIBLE vision. If you can't enjoy your own successes in life, including making other people happy, then you're off balance and need a little more self interest, in my opinion. (Disclaimer: This is all personal opinion) EDIT: If you don't enjoy benefiting someone else... WHAT THE ********!? I was talking about him..
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 6:46 pm
ChiyuriYami LoBo Score for the golden orb. There is a philosophy I live on. It is the way of three orbs. There is the black orb, which is taking the sacrifice of others to benefit the self. There is the red orb: SACRIFICING FROM THE SELF FOR THE BENEFIT OF OTHERS. Then there is the GOLDEN ORB: Equal benefit to both through enjoyable sacrifice. The ONLY true way that what you're suggesting is anything but harmful to the self is if you TRULY enjoy sacrificing. If you give with no intention benefit to yourself, not even happiness, then it is the red orb, and that is just being dumb. I refuse to meet this challenge, I simply refuse. It's impossible unless you hate knowing someone else has something. I think this type of self-sacrifice is just another path to loathing life itself, and loathing yourself. If I had not read the Sword of Truth novels I would have agreed, but... Seeing the entire world enslaved into a utopian society where EVERYONE sacrifices to the other for no reason, and everyone is equal was a HORRIBLE vision. If you can't enjoy your own successes in life, including making other people happy, then you're off balance and need a little more self interest, in my opinion. (Disclaimer: This is all personal opinion) EDIT: If you don't enjoy benefiting someone else... WHAT THE ********!? I was talking about him.. I messed up the coding... Sorry. I wrote that. http://www.gaiaonline.com/guilds/viewtopic.php?t=11072261Original thread EDIT: Strangle?... For a philosophical statement of my beliefs? Bring it. evil
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 7:20 pm
neutral a positive ripple in the universe? why would he do that thats just silly.
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 7:24 pm
fluffysteel2 neutral a positive ripple in the universe? why would he do that thats just silly. Yeah, positivity is for pussies and new agers. xd
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 9:29 pm
LoBo_23 ChiyuriYami LoBo Score for the golden orb. There is a philosophy I live on. It is the way of three orbs. There is the black orb, which is taking the sacrifice of others to benefit the self. There is the red orb: SACRIFICING FROM THE SELF FOR THE BENEFIT OF OTHERS. Then there is the GOLDEN ORB: Equal benefit to both through enjoyable sacrifice. The ONLY true way that what you're suggesting is anything but harmful to the self is if you TRULY enjoy sacrificing. If you give with no intention benefit to yourself, not even happiness, then it is the red orb, and that is just being dumb. I refuse to meet this challenge, I simply refuse. It's impossible unless you hate knowing someone else has something. I think this type of self-sacrifice is just another path to loathing life itself, and loathing yourself. If I had not read the Sword of Truth novels I would have agreed, but... Seeing the entire world enslaved into a utopian society where EVERYONE sacrifices to the other for no reason, and everyone is equal was a HORRIBLE vision. If you can't enjoy your own successes in life, including making other people happy, then you're off balance and need a little more self interest, in my opinion. (Disclaimer: This is all personal opinion) EDIT: If you don't enjoy benefiting someone else... WHAT THE ********!? I was talking about him.. I messed up the coding... Sorry. I wrote that. http://www.gaiaonline.com/guilds/viewtopic.php?t=11072261Original thread EDIT: Strangle?... For a philosophical statement of my beliefs? Bring it. evil Oops for calling it foolish? XD... Anyway, personally the reason I consider it foolish is that I do things selflessly almost every day, if a customer comes through my line and ends up not being able to afford something they need, I buy it for them. If a friend of mine is swamped with carts in the parking lot and I'm out there coming back in from helping a customer out, I'll bring in a line of 10 carts even though it's their time to be out there. One night a woman and her 8 year old daughter came through Renee's line at work, the girl got a pokemon magazine and when they got to their car they couldn't find it, they asked for my help to look through the bags to find it because I was out there near their car. I did, couldn't find it, so me and the girl went back inside to see if it was left at the register, we still couldn't find it, instead without the girl being unhappy and the mother being out $6 I bought her another one. Do I get anything back for what I do? No. Do I expect to? Not at all. Does it mean I loathe life? No, but I love making good hearted people happy, I want to think that what I do may make an impression on other people and maybe they'll spread the kindness to other people in their lives. Do I do what I do because of guilt or because I feel like I have too? Not at all, hell, ME feel GUILT? I couldn't give a s**t really. Quote: If you give with no intention benefit to yourself, not even happiness, then it is the red orb, and that is just being dumb." I give with the intention that it will benefit others and their lives, why would that ever be dumb?
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Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 4:39 am
[BlkCat] LoBo_23 ChiyuriYami LoBo Score for the golden orb. There is a philosophy I live on. It is the way of three orbs. There is the black orb, which is taking the sacrifice of others to benefit the self. There is the red orb: SACRIFICING FROM THE SELF FOR THE BENEFIT OF OTHERS. Then there is the GOLDEN ORB: Equal benefit to both through enjoyable sacrifice. The ONLY true way that what you're suggesting is anything but harmful to the self is if you TRULY enjoy sacrificing. If you give with no intention benefit to yourself, not even happiness, then it is the red orb, and that is just being dumb. I refuse to meet this challenge, I simply refuse. It's impossible unless you hate knowing someone else has something. I think this type of self-sacrifice is just another path to loathing life itself, and loathing yourself. If I had not read the Sword of Truth novels I would have agreed, but... Seeing the entire world enslaved into a utopian society where EVERYONE sacrifices to the other for no reason, and everyone is equal was a HORRIBLE vision. If you can't enjoy your own successes in life, including making other people happy, then you're off balance and need a little more self interest, in my opinion. (Disclaimer: This is all personal opinion) EDIT: If you don't enjoy benefiting someone else... WHAT THE ********!? I was talking about him.. I messed up the coding... Sorry. I wrote that. http://www.gaiaonline.com/guilds/viewtopic.php?t=11072261Original thread EDIT: Strangle?... For a philosophical statement of my beliefs? Bring it. evil Oops for calling it foolish? XD... Anyway, personally the reason I consider it foolish is that I do things selflessly almost every day, if a customer comes through my line and ends up not being able to afford something they need, I buy it for them. If a friend of mine is swamped with carts in the parking lot and I'm out there coming back in from helping a customer out, I'll bring in a line of 10 carts even though it's their time to be out there. One night a woman and her 8 year old daughter came through Renee's line at work, the girl got a pokemon magazine and when they got to their car they couldn't find it, they asked for my help to look through the bags to find it because I was out there near their car. I did, couldn't find it, so me and the girl went back inside to see if it was left at the register, we still couldn't find it, instead without the girl being unhappy and the mother being out $6 I bought her another one. Do I get anything back for what I do? No. Do I expect to? Not at all. Does it mean I loathe life? No, but I love making good hearted people happy, I want to think that what I do may make an impression on other people and maybe they'll spread the kindness to other people in their lives. Do I do what I do because of guilt or because I feel like I have too? Not at all, hell, ME feel GUILT? I couldn't give a s**t really. Quote: If you give with no intention benefit to yourself, not even happiness, then it is the red orb, and that is just being dumb." I give with the intention that it will benefit others and their lives, why would that ever be dumb? Kind of comes down to Psychological Egoism in a way -- you get a good feeling for doing good acts towards people. In a sense, you can't ever act without being selfish. Just my two cents.
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Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 6:02 pm
Mitsh [BlkCat] LoBo_23 ChiyuriYami LoBo Score for the golden orb. There is a philosophy I live on. It is the way of three orbs. There is the black orb, which is taking the sacrifice of others to benefit the self. There is the red orb: SACRIFICING FROM THE SELF FOR THE BENEFIT OF OTHERS. Then there is the GOLDEN ORB: Equal benefit to both through enjoyable sacrifice. The ONLY true way that what you're suggesting is anything but harmful to the self is if you TRULY enjoy sacrificing. If you give with no intention benefit to yourself, not even happiness, then it is the red orb, and that is just being dumb. I refuse to meet this challenge, I simply refuse. It's impossible unless you hate knowing someone else has something. I think this type of self-sacrifice is just another path to loathing life itself, and loathing yourself. If I had not read the Sword of Truth novels I would have agreed, but... Seeing the entire world enslaved into a utopian society where EVERYONE sacrifices to the other for no reason, and everyone is equal was a HORRIBLE vision. If you can't enjoy your own successes in life, including making other people happy, then you're off balance and need a little more self interest, in my opinion. (Disclaimer: This is all personal opinion) EDIT: If you don't enjoy benefiting someone else... WHAT THE ********!? I was talking about him.. I messed up the coding... Sorry. I wrote that. http://www.gaiaonline.com/guilds/viewtopic.php?t=11072261Original thread EDIT: Strangle?... For a philosophical statement of my beliefs? Bring it. evil Oops for calling it foolish? XD... Anyway, personally the reason I consider it foolish is that I do things selflessly almost every day, if a customer comes through my line and ends up not being able to afford something they need, I buy it for them. If a friend of mine is swamped with carts in the parking lot and I'm out there coming back in from helping a customer out, I'll bring in a line of 10 carts even though it's their time to be out there. One night a woman and her 8 year old daughter came through Renee's line at work, the girl got a pokemon magazine and when they got to their car they couldn't find it, they asked for my help to look through the bags to find it because I was out there near their car. I did, couldn't find it, so me and the girl went back inside to see if it was left at the register, we still couldn't find it, instead without the girl being unhappy and the mother being out $6 I bought her another one. Do I get anything back for what I do? No. Do I expect to? Not at all. Does it mean I loathe life? No, but I love making good hearted people happy, I want to think that what I do may make an impression on other people and maybe they'll spread the kindness to other people in their lives. Do I do what I do because of guilt or because I feel like I have too? Not at all, hell, ME feel GUILT? I couldn't give a s**t really. Quote: If you give with no intention benefit to yourself, not even happiness, then it is the red orb, and that is just being dumb." I give with the intention that it will benefit others and their lives, why would that ever be dumb? Kind of comes down to Psychological Egoism in a way -- you get a good feeling for doing good acts towards people. In a sense, you can't ever act without being selfish. Just my two cents. Maybe, but I don't do it for that reason, or even think about it.
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Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 6:44 pm
It's a lot better for you if you dont get a bloated ego from accomplishments or praise. Everything you do and everything you make will change somehow. It will never be in stasis. Praise and insults should not affect your ego. It's better to live that way. So if you live, live how you want. Your only dharma is to yourself. Black orb, red orb, or golden orb... As long as you stay true to yourself you are living correctly. There is no difference between yourself and others, so there is no proper way to treat them besides how your true self dictates. Everyone's body and all the drama that happens around them is temporary. So in that way no one is harmed. They must invite what happens. Basically it only happens because they ask for it. good or bad. I'll update this later
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