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 Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 5:06 pm
I recently visited http://www.rockforlife.org and according to it, birth control and the morning after pill are considered abortion. I don't know if this is just propaganda...but here's what they put: Quote: The Pill, the Mini-Pill, Depo-Provera, Norplant, the "morning after pill" (emergency contraception) and the IUD are publicized as simply preventing ovulation (releasing an egg from the woman's ovary) and conception. The truth is that these drugs also alter the lining of the womb so that the newly conceived child cannot attach himself or herself to the wall of the uterus or womb. If a baby cannot implant in the lining of the womb to receive nourishment, he or she dies. What do you think of this? I don't know what to believe. I mean, you can't really stop people from having sex...no birth control pills means more births or possibly more abortions. Does anyone know if this statement from the site is actually true?
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Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 5:15 pm
It -is- true. Except for probably the IUD, unless I'm confused on how that works.
Basically, the Morning After Pill is a supped up version of The Pill. So, considering that I know the Morning After Pill theoretically does that, The Pill would do it as well, only at a lower level. I believe that they are intended to just keep the egg from being released, and the thinning of the uturus lining is just a "just in case".
Personally, my opinion is that the Morning After Pill and The Pill shouldn't be used if you have reason to believe that the egg has been released, as in that case it would be an abortion essentially. If you are just doing it so that the egg isn't released while the sperm is waiting, I don't see what's wrong with it.
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Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 5:17 pm
Also, if you look in the forum again, I just bumped up an old thread on the same subject. 3nodding Just so we aren't repeating the same old things.
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Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 5:23 pm
There are different types of birth control. To quote this site;The Pill How does it work? The pill contains chemicals called hormones. One type of pill called the combined pill has two hormones called Oestrogen and Progestogen. The combined pill stops the release of an egg every month - but doesn't stop periods. The other type of pill only has Progestogen in it. It works by altering the mucous lining of the v****a to make it thicker. The sperm cannot then get through, and as the sperm can't meet the egg, the girl can't get pregnant. Depo Provera How do you use it? How does it work? The most popular form of this type of contraception, Depo-Provera, involves the girl having an injection once every twelve weeks. The injection is of the hormone Progestogen. The injection works in the same way in the body as the Progestogen only pill, but has the advantage that you do not have to remember to take a pill every day. It does however have the same disadvantage as the hormonal pill, in that it provides no protection against STDs. Quote: The hormones in the PCP may stop an egg from being released. Or they may stop a fertilised egg from implanting itself in the womb.
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Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 5:30 pm
I.Am Also, if you look in the forum again, I just bumped up an old thread on the same subject. 3nodding Just so we aren't repeating the same old things. Ah...thanks ^_^. I was looking for another thread.
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Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2004 9:10 am
I.Am It -is- true. Except for probably the IUD, unless I'm confused on how that works. Basically, the Morning After Pill is a supped up version of The Pill. So, considering that I know the Morning After Pill theoretically does that, The Pill would do it as well, only at a lower level. I believe that they are intended to just keep the egg from being released, and the thinning of the uturus lining is just a "just in case". Personally, my opinion is that the Morning After Pill and The Pill shouldn't be used if you have reason to believe that the egg has been released, as in that case it would be an abortion essentially. If you are just doing it so that the egg isn't released while the sperm is waiting, I don't see what's wrong with it.
Also if you notice the descriptions the morning after pill and the Progestogen only pill birth control pill do 2 completely different things. You have to realize since the majority of people who are pro-life don't take birth control either, there would be no point in keeping medical information from the public. Not to mention it's illegal to do so.
Also the IUD works by altering the lining of the uterus so that the egg can't implant. It's a little bar thing and it works for up to 5 years.
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Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2004 10:36 am
The pill as abortion? Are you SERIOUS?! eek
The pill can prevent ovulation, but it isn't a form of abortion. Missing the pill for two days can be enough to ruin its contraceptive effects, which means that those who continue to take it while they're pregnant end up missing the boat.
Granted, you shouldn't continue to take them once you figure out you're pregnant, but that's as much a matter of 'too late, they're useless' as it is what sort of side effects may occur.
I take them myself for regulatory purposes, for an egg that wouldn't end up feritilized either way. You can't abort an egg cell.
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Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2004 1:21 pm
But continuing to take them after you know your pregnant is a form of abortion.
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Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2004 1:54 pm
i am a chapter leader for rockforlife actually.
but on what we are talking about, the pill is in fact a form of abortion, as is the morning after pill
morning after pill-kills the egg after it has been fertilized, therefore is abortion.
the pill-while may to some be considered a preventative drug, it can actually cause an abortion if missed the day before sex, or the day of, and then resumed the day after. it also has Another side effect of the pill, which can be threatening to the mothers life. The pill is made to not kill the fetus, but keep it from being able to connect to the mothers uterus, to plant the umbilical cord to recieve the nutrients needed. therefore, because the egg cannot implant itself into the lining of the uterus for its nutrients, it looks to embed itself elsewhere around the other areas of the female. Therefore attatching itself, and killing the child, and harming the mother.
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Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2004 3:07 pm
Pandali But continuing to take them after you know your pregnant is a form of abortion.
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Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 10:18 pm
toxic_lollipop Pandali But continuing to take them after you know your pregnant is a form of abortion. Exactly what I said, Toxic! Cookie for you! *tosses cookie* There are some who even believe that the pill causes your body to think it's pregnant when nothing's home, so to speak. So it's not going to hurt the body to continue thinking it's pregnant. Hence the waste of money remark.
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Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 11:37 am
Haha ~chomps cookies~ I'm an advocate for birth control I do my research. The making your body think it's pregnant statement was how the pill was first described to me (Back in grade 5 or 6) and then it got more detailed as I got older.
Even in the instructions on the pills it tells you to stop taking the pills once you know you're pregnant because they will no longer do anything. Since I'm pro-life I made sure to read that part a couple of times to make sure I got it right. If they were lying that would be grounds to sue the company for millions of dollars. Something tells me they're not going to risk that.
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Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 7:51 pm
I don't like birth control myself...I prefer NFP.
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Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 5:43 pm
Here's the back-up facts for anyone who doesn't already know:
The Pill - Use of the pill affects the ovulation process in women. It must be prescribed by a doctor, and is sometimes prescribed for health problems unrelated to its contraceptive effects. The pill prevents actual pregnancy in one of several ways: it fools the body into thinking it's pregnant ((is that true??)); it stops ovulation altogether; it alters the uterine lining to prevent implantation of the fertilized egg; it affects hormone production during ovulation; or it affects the woman's mucous secretion, causing sperm cells to be denied entry into the woman's body ((I didn't know that...)).
The pill is ninety-seven to ninety-nine percent effective when used according to instructions. Its side effects are still being researched. Greater concern has surfaed recently regarding its long-range effects. Blood clots, high blood pressure, cancer (breast, uterine, cervical), depression, hypertension, weight gain, benign liver tumors, migraine headaches, gallbladder disease, loss of sex drive, and skin color change are among its side effects.
There are different kinds of pills, each affecting hormone production. In the US, the most common pill contains estrogen. In other countries, particularly those overpopulated and underdeveloped, a pill containing progesterone is used; its use may result in ectopic pregnancies (when a fertilized egg implants in a Fallopian tube instead of in the uterus) or difficulty in achieving a pregnancy after using the pill.
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Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 5:48 pm
However, the morning after pill is a little different:
Abortafacient pills - These pills, like the morning-after pill and the abortion drug RU-486 ((shiver)), work as abortafacients; that is, they prevent implantation of the fertilized egg. This type of pill is often given in emergency situations, such as rape, incest, and other violent sexual abuse. Side effects include nausea, vomiting, breast tenderness, headaches, dizziness, and the risks of oral contraceptives. In addition, birth defects may result should the embryo survive.
These two posts were taken from Sexuality: Moral Reasoning and Controversial Issues
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