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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 2:23 pm
I know that this is off Dr. Who topic. But I wanted to warn you. The writer of "The Golden Compass" wants to kill God. It's what he said. He wants to incorage kids to kill God. He doesn't get spirituality and all of that. The book, "The Golden Compass" is the least contraversal of his books. The rest are out right anti-God. The people that made the movie had taken a lot of the stuff out, however in the day and age where kids are starting to read what they watch. They are more likely to get bashed with this Son of Perdition's antics. *I'm calling him that because that's what he sounds like.* Just wanted to warn you all. And my advise for you is to not watch it. The idea makes be feel way to uncomfortable.
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 7:47 pm
and its now gaia endorsed. the irony is incredable rofl
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 1:38 am
Well, Gaia does mean, literally "earth".. perhaps Gaia is the Mother Earth-type whatever-it's-called? I dunno.. sweatdrop
Either that or it's PC at it's finest. rolleyes They gotta include everything to not offend everyone.
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 2:02 am
Ceribri Well, Gaia does mean, literally "earth".. perhaps Gaia is the Mother Earth-type whatever-it's-called? I dunno.. sweatdrop
Either that or it's PC at it's finest. rolleyes They gotta include everything to not offend everyone. Plus Gaia probably made a decent amount of money in the advertising deal... wink
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 2:21 am
Ceribri Well, Gaia does mean, literally "earth".. perhaps Gaia is the Mother Earth-type whatever-it's-called? I dunno.. sweatdrop
Either that or it's PC at it's finest. rolleyes They gotta include everything to not offend everyone. Gaia is an Greek Earth goddess. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaia_(mythology) sweatdrop
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 4:34 am
*just read all about it on Wikipedia* That......Is so ******** up. o.o I thought these books were for children? They don't need to hear that kinda stuff. That's how serial killers are born.
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 9:16 am
Triska The writer of "The Golden Compass" wants to kill God. It's what he said. Where did he say this? I'm agnostic; I don't really want to get dragged into this debate. I'd just like to hear the other side of the argument, please.
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 11:23 am
I'm of the opinion that if someone allows a fictional novel to dash their faith, then it wasn't very strong to begin with. Otherwise, you can't expect to have the right to air your beliefs if you refuse others the rights to air theirs. =|
And doesn't shielding yourself from criticism of your faith just suggests that you're not that secure about it? Otherwise, wouldn't you be able to face it anyway, and still come out confident?
I don't know much about this specific book/ set of books, but there's my two pence anyway. Anyway, I'm definitely going to buy the trilogy after all the commotion it has created.
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 1:35 pm
I read it off an article. And I am secure about my faith. I'm just concern about what he's after.
I have two nephews. When I heard about this I got concern about them. It's not myself that I was fighting for, it's for those who are still learning. It's how I am. When it just me, I sit back and take it. When it's others I lash out.
In the article, it was said that one character was equivalent to an ex-nun. In the story she said that the religion was a mistake. He is considered to be one of the most Dangerous Writers out there.
I'm only making a suggestion. I can't force you not to see it. That's quite impossible. I just wanted to forewarn you.
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 4:36 pm
I think you can write about killing God without saying people should want to kill God, just like you can write about God without saying that people should worship him. Nobody gets upset when writers mention God in their books, but as soon as someone incorporates killing God into a story, everyone gets all upset and goes "Oh, don't read that!" The US has an Amendment saying that everyone has the freedom of religion, but we make kids say "Under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance in school every day and we don't want them to read books that don't support God (like how some people are all upset about Harry Potter and "witchcraft" in it). The Golden Compass trilogy is awesome, and you shouldn't let some concern about problems with religion keep you from reading it or seeing it! In case you hadn't guessed, I'm an atheist. heart
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 4:38 pm
Finn Malcolm *just read all about it on Wikipedia* That......Is so ******** up. o.o I thought these books were for children? They don't need to hear that kinda stuff. That's how serial killers are born. How does that create serial killers?
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 4:39 pm
goddess velya and its now gaia endorsed. the irony is incredable rofl How is that ironic?
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 4:57 pm
If you read my thing, you would notice that not once did I say the words "Atheist." Reason; I don't believe he is one. I believe he is a Son of Perdition. And there is a difference between them. How do I get that? Well, you can't say that you want to incurage kids to kill God when you don't believe there's a God to begin with.
Oh, just so you know. I LOVE Harry Potter. I'm not one of those weirdos that that believe that Harry Potter incurages "Witchcraft." (Look at my sig.) And, not supporting God I have found includes supporting God. When I went to school there was a rule to not pray. The "Under God" seemed to me to be the ONLY time I have heard any support for God. In fact, I've heard a lot of nonsupport. People seem to have forgotten that.
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 5:11 pm
Lemur9 I think you can write about killing God without saying people should want to kill God, just like you can write about God without saying that people should worship him. Nobody gets upset when writers mention God in their books, but as soon as someone incorporates killing God into a story, everyone gets all upset and goes "Oh, don't read that!" The US has an Amendment saying that everyone has the freedom of religion, but we make kids say "Under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance in school every day and we don't want them to read books that don't support God (like how some people are all upset about Harry Potter and "witchcraft" in it). The Golden Compass trilogy is awesome, and you shouldn't let some concern about problems with religion keep you from reading it or seeing it! In case you hadn't guessed, I'm an atheist. heart You’re an atheist, which means you don’t believe in anything. Who cares what you think? The only way you would understand what this girl is saying is if you had beliefs (which you don’t, since you’re an atheist). So your opinion pretty much means nothing in this debate.
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