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Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 8:00 pm
Given the disturbing trend in recent years of women being denied medication - namely birth control and emergency contraception - by pharmacists who Think They Know Better, doesn't a school of pharmacy focusing on biblical ideals just sound like a delight? Cedarville University thinks that's a swell idea!Cedarville University Distinct Mission: Cedarville equips competent professionals who will bring a compassionate, biblical perspective to the critical bioethical issues facing the pharmaceutical field today. Quote: In addition to increased opportunities in the profession, the job itself is changing. Today’s pharmacists not only fill prescriptions, but they can also have an impact on what medications are used, can participate in research, and may even be called upon to go on rounds with doctors. “They’re more directly involved with patients now,” says Dr. Andy Runyan, associate vice president for academic administration at Cedarville. “Many pharmacists say they counsel people all day—and some can influence the direction of research on new medications.” This kind of influential impact—combined with Cedarville’s emphasis on integrating biblical principles—makes the University an ideal arena for a pharmacy degree.Unless I'm missing something - and perhaps the bible has a wellspring of relevant pharmacological information that I just missed - I'm not seeing the real benefit of my pharmacist knowing Proverbs over progestin. All I can imagine happening, really, is an increased probability of getting an earful of one and none of the other. Cynical? Cedarville is currently seeking accreditation and hopes to open its school of pharmacy in 2009. They'll need to go through the Accreditation Council for Pharmacy Education, the Ohio Board of Regents, and the Higher Learning Commission of the North Central Association of Colleges and Schools to get accredited.
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Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 8:39 pm
::snort:: This should be interesting. Personally, I'm waiting for the day when we have segregated pharmacies or some such. That way women don't have to guess whether or not the pharmacy will fill their prescription.
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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 12:36 am
God save us from your followers!
I can't wait for the next customer who comes to fill out a prescription for antibiotics only to have the pharmacist bring out a butcher knife
"Well that would be great... but the bible says to cut off that which offends you. So let's see that finger!"
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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 1:20 am
Ugh... I hope they never become a school. Medical teaching and religion should not mix...
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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 4:44 am
Actual doctors are part pharmacists themselves. I mean they have to know the medication they are giving their patients so just plain pharmacists doing this: "Today’s pharmacists not only fill prescriptions, but they can also have an impact on what medications are used, can participate in research, and may even be called upon to go on rounds with doctors." is what scares me the most about this whole school.
I too, hope that it will not come to pass and if it does I want big clear print signs (in all formats like for the blind or deaf etc. aswell) that the pharmacist in question might not give you what you know you need.
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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 7:30 am
I was scared enough when they said pharmacists didn't have to fill prescriptions if they didn't morally agree with it.
They should require that such places display signs stating that they will not fill certain prescriptions, so that (in general women, since I usually hear about it being BC) people can go elsewhere and not waste their time. Or worse, have their prescription taken, told that it won't be filled, and then not given back.
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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 4:24 pm
This needs to stop. Yes, they have a right to not be forced to violate their moral principles, but the woman who is picking up her prescription has a right to make her moral decision without the pharmacist interfering. They can either give her the medication or seek employment in a different field.
Besides, wouldn't we not have the medicines that have saved people's lives if we followed biblical principles and shunned science? I bet in biblical times people would stone you thinking pharmacology was witchcraft.
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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 11:13 pm
Hah!! if those hypocritical suckers paid more attention to their bible, they wouldn't/shouldn't be practicing pharmacology in the first place since it wasn't even invented/mentioned in the bible, and instead rely on "God" for all healthcare needs. pray to the sky pixie enough and that'll do the trick! opps, you got sick because you sinned very badly, time to pray a lot and... well.. a little self flogging probably wouldn't hurt.
OMGS WIMMIMS ARE DIRTY LITTLE HORS WHO DESERVE TO PUMP OUT CROTCHLINGS ITS GAWD'S WILL!!!111
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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 11:54 pm
I'm suddenly reminded (probably thanks to my sobriety and depression biggrin ) of a quote I heard on the Simpsons today.
"Restraining order: Religion must stay 500 feet away from Science at all times. Failure to do so will result in something bad."
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 12:12 am
Science can get religious too, though.
One shining example of my point is when people attribute human actions/thoughts/beliefs to biological determinism.
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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 4:28 pm
You mean like when people try to say that socially-constructed gender roles are biologically innate and that they should be rigid and strictly enforced? That kind of thing? I see that as a misuse/misunderstanding of science. There is a lot of scientific evidence proving that most gender differences are the result of socialization. Even if some differences are biological, it doesn't mean that we have to enforce them. That's the naturalistic fallacy at work. ....Or did you mean something different? Solaris Lunarena I'm suddenly reminded (probably thanks to my sobriety and depression biggrin ) of a quote I heard on the Simpsons today.
"Restraining order: Religion must stay 500 feet away from Science at all times. Failure to do so will result in something bad." I liked Ned Flanders' quote in the last Treehouse of Horror Simpsons episode: "Please, Lord! Give me the power to psychologically torture them into loving you!" ....But I think that belongs in the "hell house" topic.
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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 4:38 pm
PhaedraMcSpiffy You mean like when people try to say that socially-constructed gender roles are biologically innate and that they should be rigid and strictly enforced? That kind of thing? I see that as a misuse/misunderstanding of science. There is a lot of scientific evidence proving that most gender differences are the result of socialization. Even if some differences are biological, it doesn't mean that we have to enforce them. That's the naturalistic fallacy at work. ....Or did you mean something different? Solaris Lunarena I'm suddenly reminded (probably thanks to my sobriety and depression biggrin ) of a quote I heard on the Simpsons today.
"Restraining order: Religion must stay 500 feet away from Science at all times. Failure to do so will result in something bad." I liked Ned Flanders' quote in the last Treehouse of Horror Simpsons episode: "Please, Lord! Give me the power to psychologically torture them into loving you!" ....But I think that belongs in the "hell house" topic. I remember watching something when I was a kid (Kratts' Creatures I think xP) and it showed a pride of lions hunting. The females did all the hunting, in actuality. There was some reason that the male leader got to eat first, but it escapes me at the moment.
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Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 8:45 pm
And yea, the male lion ate first because The Good Lord did endow him with the Ballls of Dominance!
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