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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 8:37 pm


Just wondering if anyone else was as incensed as I am over Criss Angel's behavior. I wish I had links for you, but I don't know if the episode is up online yet. You might try NBC.com.

I knew Criss Angel was no more than an illusionist, but I had no idea he was so spiteful towards people claiming to have paranormal abilities for real. I lost any amount of respect I may have had for him and so have a lot of his fans, considering what they're posting on his website.
PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 10:49 pm


I wasn't watching at all. In fact, I haven't caught ANY of the Phenomenon episodes... sad

And no, it's not on NBC.com yet.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 11:24 pm


It's on Youtube!!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=pE45QHIUfiM

Well, this is...wow. I can understand Criss on this one, considering that his performance was overblown, but that was neither the time nor the place to try and pull off such a stunt. Jim's response was also not exactly the best thing he could have done, either.

(Don't watch the last 52 seconds of the clip...it's the person trying to take Jim's side.)
PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 11:34 pm


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It's on Youtube!!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=pE45QHIUfiM

Well, this is...wow. I can understand Criss on this one, considering that his performance was overblown, but that was neither the time nor the place to try and pull off such a stunt. Jim's response was also not exactly the best thing he could have done, either.

(Don't watch the last 52 seconds of the clip...it's the person trying to take Jim's side.)


Thanks for providing a link. I'm on dial up so it would have taken me forever.

I just can't get over how rude Criss was. I honestly expected that lady to impale her hand before I expected to see a blow up like that.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 3:48 am


Above all things, one fact stands out more than the rest -- Tim Vincent is hot.

And secondly -- what a b***h Criss was. Although it's only to be suspected - they're both performers of a sort, so there's going to be some tension there.
PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 8:54 am


I don't see what he did wrong, really. All he did was ask him to see what was in the envelope. Why didn't the guy just do it if he claims he can?


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 9:07 am


damn.. we dont get nothing like this over here.. it sucks xD

still.. would have been intresting if he did get what was in the envelope and won the million xD
PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 10:12 am


Oh, man! I should have watched this instead of catching up on Tivoed stuff! But that's okay, I recorded it...I'll watch it soon. twisted

BTW, I'd just watch the clip but I'm in the library. Shh! xd

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 2:04 pm


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I don't see what he did wrong, really. All he did was ask him to see what was in the envelope. Why didn't the guy just do it if he claims he can?


It wasn't the time nor the place for such a stunt, not to mention Jim wasn't the only one he challenged. He asked Uri to do it, too. If what he did was authentic (honestly, I've never seen a possession that overblown, so I have my doubts), he seemed too drained to pull off something like that.

My question: WHY did Criss have the envelope there in the first place? Was he expecting this to happen?
PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 5:16 pm


Well, since Chriss is a fake, I think it's extremely hard for him to believe anyone else is real. I've seen Chriss float around, and then seen him explain how he faked it. So he was probably sitting there thinking "Okay, what's this guy's trick?"

I personally think Chriss is a douchebag because he wears that goth crap and religious stuff when he really doesn't believe any of it. I like magicians, but he's just obnoxious about it--pretending he's spiritual one minute so he can make money, and acting like a big skeptic the next.

In any case, you DO have to take into account the psychic's energy. If it took him a couple of minutes and all that energy for one trick, it's unfair to ask him to do the same thing right away, and have him do it instantly. I'm iffy about the guy of course--all that moaning and thrashing around makes me suspicious, but I think that he should be given the benefit of the doubt. Have Chriss do his envelope thing the next week when the other guy has had time to recover. That would be fair.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 5:39 pm


OMG....when you guys said a blow-up, I pictured a tiny scuffle, maybe an exchange of words like in American Idol...but you weren't exaggerating! gonk

Although I'm uber suspicious of the Jim guy, Criss Angel has now lost all my respect. While Uri has gained some, cause I didn't know him before this show; and yet he restrained Criss even though he was brought into it.

The envelope was one of the first things I thought of, too. He was PREPARED for this...which just makes it worse. gonk
PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 7:03 pm


I believe it would have been too easy to fake what Callahan did; I don't believe it was an actual possession. That's not the point though. The point is that in Criss' show he portrays himself as supernatural, talking crap about believing and being spiritual, and he's just exploiting people. Then Jim gets up there and maybe does a more overblown thing, and suddenly it's like Criss Angel is the only person allowed to pretend he's psychic.

And I've been reading on Angel's website; apparently he did a radio show or something where he explained the envelope thing. So I guess he was prepared for something like that, but honestly it's probably just to get more publicity for himself. Also, Criss did a seance on this season of Mindfreak, complete with three frames of an "unexplained" form appearing and disappearing. Then at the end he says he doesn't believe in ghosts.

Ideological bigot? I think Jim Callahan may have hit the nail on the head.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 7:27 pm


That was nucking futs. Criss Angel's views on this are now a**-hat-ish in my eyes.
PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 7:50 pm


Azana Brown
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I don't see what he did wrong, really. All he did was ask him to see what was in the envelope. Why didn't the guy just do it if he claims he can?


It wasn't the time nor the place for such a stunt, not to mention Jim wasn't the only one he challenged. He asked Uri to do it, too. If what he did was authentic (honestly, I've never seen a possession that overblown, so I have my doubts), he seemed too drained to pull off something like that.

My question: WHY did Criss have the envelope there in the first place? Was he expecting this to happen?

It wasn't a stunt until the posessed dude jumped at Criss calling him an idealogical bigot. I say he should have taken the challenge, proved Criss wrong and been on his mary little way. Unless he was really a fake omg.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 9:10 pm


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but honestly it's probably just to get more publicity for himself.


Kinda like ignoring the host's question and simply plugging for his next season an AE? evil
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