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Understanding Prince Shotoku's last words

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Shokai

PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 3:44 pm


Ok...so I have been having a slight debate with my self. Prince Shotoku's last words were..."This world is an illusion...only Buddha is true"..... My debate to this was that, I dont think he meant Buddha as in Shakyamuni Buddha..but the word Buddha...meaning "awakened/Enlightened"...not as to refer to the historical Buddha but refering to the word itself, not Shakyamuni Buddha. So better yet...to put Prince Shotoku's words into a way to understand it: "This world is an illusion...only enlightenment is true"

What do you think?

In case if anyone who dosent know of Prince Shotoku(574-622), Prince Shotoku devoted his efforts to the spread of Buddhism in Japan.

I do not know where or during what period he was born...so please excuse me for that.
PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 6:56 am


*nods*

Yes, that is correct. There is a simple phrase in buddhism which says that "Mind is Buddha." Then there's the lovely koan:

"A monk once asked Tozan as he was weighing some flax: 'what is Buddha?'
Tozan answered him: 'this flax weighs three pounds.'"

Tenzin Chodron
Crew


Shokai

PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 2:47 pm


^_^ ....Though I did not understand the koan about where the monk answers "this flax weighs three pounds" . I have heard many koans before.....they are so beautiful
PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 11:38 am


Shokai
^_^ ....Though I did not understand the koan about where the monk answers "this flax weighs three pounds" . I have heard many koans before.....they are so beautiful


I love that koan because the answer is not in "what" Tozan says, it's "how" he says it. Let's look at the scene of the koan again. Tozan is weighing some flax. Because he is a wise man, and practices the Four Foundations of Mindfulness, he is very aware of what he is doing at that precise moment in time. He is weighing flax, and he is only weighing flax. He is not thinking about what he had for breakfast, he is not planning what he will do this evening. He is just there in that moment.

So along comes another monk who knows that Tozan is very wise, and the monk asks Tozan as Tozan is "just" weighing his flax, "what is Buddha?" Tozan, because he is in the moment, answers the first thing that is in his mind, "this flax weighs three pounds." The first thing that is in his mind. Mind is Buddha. Tozan demonstrates the buddhist concept of No-Mind.

Tenzin Chodron
Crew


Shokai

PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 2:01 pm


Ok...I understand a little bit. ^^ but...what is meant by no-mind?
PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 2:47 pm


I believe the concept of No-Mind is captured in this correspondence:

Dear Zen Master Seung Sahn,
I am most grateful for your kind teaching of the dharma. I am also thankful to have such an impeccable master as yourself. I'm trying to keep the mantra you gave me and with personal effort, I hope to realize don't-know mind.

Sincerely,
Jim


Dear Jim,
Thank you for your letter. In past lifetimes we had the same karma, so in this lifetime we meet again and practice the Buddha's teachings. Our similar karma does not stop in this life. In the future we will also meet again and practice Buddhist teachings together. And not just you - our whole Zen family. You must practice your mantra with great strength. This is very important. Mantra mind is Buddha's mind. Buddha's mind is your true self. An eminent teacher once said, "One mind is everything and everything is one mind." Also, one mind is infinite time, infinite space. But what is mind?

Long ago in China someone asked Zen Master Ma Jo, "What is mind?" He said, "Mind is Buddha, Buddha is mind." Later someone asked him the same question and he said, "No mind, no Buddha." No mind, no Buddha, what does that mean? If you strongly practice mantra at that time there is only one mind. One mind means empty mind. Empty mind means before thinking. Before thinking means no speech, no words. Before thinking is true mind, true Buddha. So, no mind, no Buddha. Only practice your mantra. Put it all down. Then you will find your true self. I hope you will soon get enlightenment and save all beings from suffering.

Sincerely,
Zen Master Seung Sahn

Tenzin Chodron
Crew

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