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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 6:21 pm
I recently read an article for English, stating that marriages need to be rethought of, or to change the way we marry. He suggested we have "Limited Time Marriages", or LTM. The idea is you find out who you want to marry, and get married, but you sign a legal contract saying you will stay with them for at LEAST 3, 5, or 7 years. After the set amount of year, you may choose to renew the marriage, or leave the marriage for a new one. If you do end the marriage, you get a little diploma saying the number of years you stayed in the LTM for others to see and help to choose a good partner. He said it would be easier on kids too, who wouldn't have to deal with the divorce. He says that free will in the marriage is sexy. He suggested it would end heart break, drop divorce rates, and make people not feel so pressured about getting married for life.
My response will be in white after this sentence, since first opinions often have major impacts on the views of others. I believe this is INCREDIBLY ignorant, and thought of by a man who fears commitment. I think it would be used to justify sleeping around. You keep a partner for three years, then move on. Also, it would be just as hard on kids, and probably people, as with divorces, one usually wants to keep the marriage, and one doesn't. Plus, who wants to see a diploma for every man or woman you've slept with? D: I find it repulsive.
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 6:33 pm
You are the colors of my rainbowI'm not too sure if I like that idea. What if the husband/wife is abusive? Its not fair to the one who is getting abused.
And the colors of my heart
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Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 10:42 am
That sounds like a ridiculous idea to me. In theory, it sounds fine, but that's assuming everything he says his true, which it more than likely is not. I don't get how this would be any less traumatizing than a divorce. Plus, a "diploma"? What the hell is up with that?
"I've had six wives, and this here paper proves it!"
That's a load of crap.
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 4:12 pm
In some cases the married couple honestly hate eachother. Id hate to leagaly have to stay with someone i wanted to kill! How two people can hate eacother like that after marrying i dont know but it happens.
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 9:01 pm
This hearkens back to the idea of handfastings and Celtic practices. Commonly in Wiccan practice, one "marries" for a year-and-a-day. It's like a trial period. After this point, the couple can decide to renew their vows for another year-and-a-day, or make the joining permanent.
This sort of thing suggests that the vows made are more serious than a wedding without, shall we say, a trial period. It means that they're thinking "when I say forever, I want to mean it". This doesn't mean that they will be together forever, but that they want to make sure that they can live together in that sort of bond first.
I see nothing wrong with the idea. You'd get the same rights as a married couple, rather than a de facto. This is important to some people. I think a handfasting or other non-legal ceremony would be good enough, but there are legal issues that might make a legal ceremony the more preferable option.
I think that the problems would be related to the idea of it being a limited-time thing, suggesting perhaps that "when this time is over, we will break up". I don't think that that's what the guy means as such. I think, though, that five and seven years are too long and defeat the very purpose of the idea. After three years, you should be sure, one way or the other. Or at least, sure enough.
This doesn't mean that there won't be problems later on. And that's fine. But if you don't know after three years whether you want to make a permanent commitment to a person, if you don't know whether you love them that much, why extend it for seven years? I'm not saying break up, but, well, you know what I mean.
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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 5:10 pm
i think this is a decent idea. as is, marrage in america is down the tube. i'm not sure about other contries, but here it just sucks. most dont even last a year, and some are over in a few weeks (and thats not just celebs, its regular people too). an age limt should be added in too. the reason most marrages dont last is because people are getting married young, spur of the moment, and not thinking logicly.
if they try to make it a law though, it'll probably never pass.
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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 8:07 pm
I not think it good idea. You wed some person because love for them you feel. You not wed them because you not sure. If you not sure, why wed them in the first place? It not true love if you wed them because you do not want to be with them. It would be waste of time.
Sorry, I speak only half-good English. .____.;;
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 8:52 am
NekoGod I recently read an article for English, stating that marriages need to be rethought of, or to change the way we marry. He suggested we have "Limited Time Marriages", or LTM. The idea is you find out who you want to marry, and get married, but you sign a legal contract saying you will stay with them for at LEAST 3, 5, or 7 years. After the set amount of year, you may choose to renew the marriage, or leave the marriage for a new one. If you do end the marriage, you get a little diploma saying the number of years you stayed in the LTM for others to see and help to choose a good partner. He said it would be easier on kids too, who wouldn't have to deal with the divorce. He says that free will in the marriage is sexy. He suggested it would end heart break, drop divorce rates, and make people not feel so pressured about getting married for life.
My response will be in white after this sentence, since first opinions often have major impacts on the views of others. I believe this is INCREDIBLY ignorant, and thought of by a man who fears commitment. I think it would be used to justify sleeping around. You keep a partner for three years, then move on. Also, it would be just as hard on kids, and probably people, as with divorces, one usually wants to keep the marriage, and one doesn't. Plus, who wants to see a diploma for every man or woman you've slept with? D: I find it repulsive. I agree with you on this one. It feels like if someone says, "Hey, I married this person for 4 years and this person for 2 years", that will make that person a hoe, in my eyes.
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 2:06 pm
Well if you consider the divorce rate in America it would seem this IS the best way to solve it, all tho I realize that marriage IS NOT a business deal, If it was then this would be a decent way to solve it, Maybe it should be an option you could choose to do this (even tho I personally would not) You could choose basically at the alter (but not literally) whether or not you wanted to have traditional life long marriage or a renewable marriage, and then after the 3,5,or 7 years after you could get it renewed you could choose to get a traditional marriage if you knew thats what you wanted.
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Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 1:25 pm
I think the idea of making marriage a trial basis would give people an excuse to take marriage lightly. Marriage is supposed to mean forever. If we allow trial basis marriages, it's saying that it's ok to quit because it was only a practice run anyway. I do understand that sometimes a couple will have irreconcilable differences and have to get a divorce, but I don't think we should make it any easier or make it "ok." Marriage is supposed to be a lifetime commitment, not a practice run. By pledging forever, you're showing them how much you love them. Pledging 2-5 years just doesn't say "I love you" in quite the same way.
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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 3:38 pm
What a ridiculous idea. I've been married and divorced myself. No, there were no kids involved, but I learned my lesson. I got married for all the wrong reasons, and I regret what I did. But I chose that path out of free will and it was permanent and binding. If you really wanna go through a "trial run", live with the person a few years. Not hard. I did it for 3 years before I got married. It was like being married without the paperwork. I got to know what the guy was like during his everyday living. How he acted, what his little disadvantages were. But I didn't need a little diploma or anything to say I was with the person. LTM is a stupid way to say you got married to a person. It's a cheap way to get out of a marriage without paying tons of money because you made a mistake. Suck it up, go through the legal system, get a real marriage, and if you don't like it, pay the consequences. I did.
And it taught me a valuable lesson. Be careful who you chose as a mate. Learn about them and don't just say "I do" because you can. Say "I do" because you mean it.
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 11:10 am
I think that's ridiculous, frankly. It's kind of like saying 'well, I like you and all, but now that I've served my sentence, I'll just walk out on you now.'
Excuse me? The whole point of marriage is that you love that person enough to want (at least at first) to spend the rest of your life with them. It's not a 'I love you enough for three years, then I'm gone.' This is just an excuse for people who can't commit to try and fool their partner into thinking that they can.
How would that be less stressful than divorce, for anyone, much less the kids? 'Sorry, honey, but they didn't love you enough to stick around' still hurts, no matter if it was 'arranged' previously.
In short, I sure as heck wouldn't marry someone under that. If they can't at least believe for a few days that they love me enough to spend the rest of their lives with me, I'm not signing anything.
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Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 9:39 pm
it doesn't make sense on one part. like kids really care if mom and dad are fighting over their custody, the house and money, they see that one parent is gone. that's all that really matters to them. and you should of taken it seriously before doing anything that would possibly bring kids in the world. and you should know the person long enough to know if you want to marry them or live with them for extended periods of time (here, it aint uncommon for people to get married after knowing each other for a month just so they can f*** legally, then they get divorced two months later because the sex and the person aint right for them. they'd probably like that idea so they could see, but do enough of these limited marriages ,and either you're a commitment phobe, a whore or a man whore, depending on your gender).
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:43 pm
No-Soup-Fo-YOU In some cases the married couple honestly hate eachother. Id hate to leagaly have to stay with someone i wanted to kill! How two people can hate eacother like that after marrying i dont know but it happens. Sanguina Cruenta This hearkens back to the idea of handfastings and Celtic practices. Commonly in Wiccan practice, one "marries" for a year-and-a-day. It's like a trial period. After this point, the couple can decide to renew their vows for another year-and-a-day, or make the joining permanent. This sort of thing suggests that the vows made are more serious than a wedding without, shall we say, a trial period. It means that they're thinking "when I say forever, I want to mean it". This doesn't mean that they will be together forever, but that they want to make sure that they can live together in that sort of bond first. I see nothing wrong with the idea. You'd get the same rights as a married couple, rather than a de facto. This is important to some people. I think a handfasting or other non-legal ceremony would be good enough, but there are legal issues that might make a legal ceremony the more preferable option. I think that the problems would be related to the idea of it being a limited-time thing, suggesting perhaps that "when this time is over, we will break up". I don't think that that's what the guy means as such. I think, though, that five and seven years are too long and defeat the very purpose of the idea. After three years, you should be sure, one way or the other. Or at least, sure enough. This doesn't mean that there won't be problems later on. And that's fine. But if you don't know after three years whether you want to make a permanent commitment to a person, if you don't know whether you love them that much, why extend it for seven years? I'm not saying break up, but, well, you know what I mean. In this and the one about abusive relationships that is what divorce is for!!!! To the second quote you do realize that that is what dating and living with them are for. (Still no doing it!) I've been dating my guy for almost 3 years now and he has loved me for 6 years so this whole thing is still wrong, in the bible your only suppose to be intimate with one person, other than that its wrong! And as for this stupid diploma thing it goes against all my morals and against my (In white for those of u who will freak!) religion Do you realize that this will spread STDs! It means you sleep around for how ever long you want then move on! OMG as for the part of trying to find the right one! B** S***! Ok cuz you might as well date! (No sleeping around) Jeesh! OMG those of ya'll for this are DUMB!!! Please just think, your sleeping with all the others they slept with!!! crying
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Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 12:55 pm
It might not be too bad of an idea. In America marriage barely means anything anymore. Its not just famous people divorcing after a few months. However, I think it would still be unfair and hard on the kids no matter what. And some people may just use this as an excuse to show off to everyone how many times they've been married.
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