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Do you believe in God? |
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11% |
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No |
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54% |
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33% |
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Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2004 11:16 am
This topic is to find out how many anti-creationists believe in God. I suspect the proportion is quite high. Also, please post (if you believe in God) how you define God. I think you'll be surprised to learn that people define God differently. Therefore, not everyone who believes in God does believe in God; from a personal perspective. If someone believes in a God different to you, it means they don't believe in God at all, but something else with the same name.
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Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2004 2:39 pm
I'm an agnostic, meaning I don't believe in God, but don't believe there is not a God.
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Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2004 2:45 pm
Mytharis I'm an agnostic, meaning I don't believe in God, but don't believe there is not a God. The actual definition of Agnostic is that you don't know whether there is a God or not, and you're not going to pretend that you do. I'm the same. The only thing that I see as God-like is pure energy, but of course there's the problem with lacking sentience.
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Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2004 3:22 pm
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Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2004 3:51 pm
Xander LeMagre Mytharis I'm an agnostic, meaning I don't believe in God, but don't believe there is not a God. The actual definition of Agnostic is that you don't know whether there is a God or not, and you're not going to pretend that you do. I'm the same. The only thing that I see as God-like is pure energy, but of course there's the problem with lacking sentience. Isnt that pretty much the same thing?
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Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2004 4:08 pm
I voted no because I don't believe in anything that I would call God, but it's not strictly true. I believe in a few things, but mostly I don't believe in anything. Anything which might be considered real, and not just an abstract concept, I don't believe in.
However, as I constantly point out, there is no singular idea of what God is that everyone agrees on. God can only be known to exist if you relegate God to an abstract concept, such as the feeling of love or determination.
I'm a neo-rationalist. Neo-rationalism is the ultimate extension of philosophy that can't be argued against on any level. There's a big difference between arrogance and being right, and the only way to tell the difference is to doubt all your assumptions; which is what I do.
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Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2004 10:40 pm
I would be considered agnostic but im actually doing some extenive research to see if a religion, if any, would be correct to believe in and/or follow
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Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 1:57 am
I voted no, but yet again...not entirely accurate. I am agnostic, I've tried to belive in god or a controling deity, but it hasn't worked. My belief just can't stretch that far. I spend alot of time studying science, especially the human body (im a wannabe medic, applying now for med school) and the complexities of it amaze me every lesson and with every chapter of a text book that I read. I do find it hard to imagine that this has all been the work of random instances leading to the evolution of this complex system, because theres a back up plan to everything, and most of the time it works brilliantly. This leads me to wonder about a deity having a hand in the process. At the same time its possible to see how certain hormones or amino acids obviuosly evolved before others, leading to the specific function of a system, such as the kidneys. Damn kidneys for being so facinating!
thanks for letting me join!
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Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 4:17 am
Glad to have you, Ana.
My advice is, don't consider one religion to be necessarily self consistent and entirely right. Judge each individual idea on its own merit. Most religions say one or two things that make sense, but most of them are bilge.
Ana, if you start blaming God for things, you're just putting things you don't understand into a big box called "GOD". Doing that just inhibits your ability to learn. God explains nothing. It's not required, either. If there's something you don't know then the only right answer is 'I don't know'. If you have to resort to saying, 'God did it' then you have to back it up.
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Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 1:32 pm
I would define myself as agnostic (atheist when mad), although I sometimes lean to pantheism. I believe that the laws of the universe are the only conception of God that any human could grasp and feel confident about. All other religious concepts that humans have created seem to be very synthetic, and suited only for the times they were created. For example, a man creating a religion today would most likely include an explanation for the sciences we currently understand, but not include any reference to the future technologies that an omnipotent God would surely know of. Religions always seem to be conveniently constructed for the time periods they were created and the history before that. I think that's a big part of why religions now are so outdated.
By the way, I just joined, I love the concept of the guild smile .
(The atheist when mad thing was a joke razz )
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Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 5:13 pm
I'm agnostic I suppose, but leaning towards Buddhist ideals. I don't believe in any creator gods, but I think there's an afterlife and the idea of a religion devoted to enlightenment appeals to me. I think if there is a higher being, then they are not that much higher than us and wish to be our teacher/mentor instead of a bullying parent.
Those are my beliefs anyway, muddled as they are.
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Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 5:14 pm
I'm agnostic I suppose, but leaning towards Buddhist ideals. I don't believe in any creator gods, but I think there's an afterlife and the idea of a religion devoted to enlightenment appeals to me. I think if there is a higher being, then they are not that much higher than us and wish to be our teacher/mentor instead of a bullying parent.
Those are my beliefs anyway, muddled as they are.
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Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 5:23 pm
Heh, not surprised to find so many agnostics.
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Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2004 2:57 am
I believe that there very well could be a creator god, or a god who, uh, somehow manages our 'souls'. But the idea of a sentient, omnipotent being makes only very little sense to me...
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Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2004 4:05 am
Hmm, the idea that God represents all natural law in the universe? That's an interesting one. It's possible to know that the idea of a natural law exists, and its possible to know the theories applied. But facts about the universe upon which we base these theories are unknowable.
It's poetic, of course, but no matter how you define God, the word is irrelevant. You believe/don't believe or worship the qualities which define God. The word itself is just a word.
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