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Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 8:41 am
Here's the problem the government can't be overthrown, why, because if we do kick them out which is IMPOSSIBLE NO MATTER WHAT WE DO; they will choose new members to take over and they will make a few new laws which will not be permission to smoke marijuana or gay marraige rights. Then they would take over and decide to use another system to rule us...why can't people see that this is monarchy, just under different terms.
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Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 9:43 pm
Someone''s been listening to a lot of Rage Against the Machine.
Anyway, I don''t see what this has to do with hippies. While it is in the nature of most hippies to rebel, I don''t think it was ever their intention to overthrow anybody.
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Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 5:11 pm
phriedphishphan While it is in the nature of most hippies to rebel, I don''t think it was ever their intention to overthrow anybody. 3nodding Life sucks, get used to it. sweatdrop We cant do anything on a large scale without first instigating small scale changes.
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Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 5:58 pm
well put. government can be overthrown(by looking at history) but they normally end up producing the same thing that was there in the first place. Which doesnt do much good
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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 5:38 pm
The only thing us hippies can do is simply act the way we feel is right, and treat others with respect. The time will come for a era of "hippie-ness" again, but we just have to wait, and teach our kids and out peers how to act properly, then when the time comes, we will make a change, and that is the only type of over throwing us hippies can do. @ you thinkers: yes that play works 2 fold. ninja
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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 5:42 pm
phriedphishphan Someone''s been listening to a lot of Rage Against the Machine. Anyway, I don''t see what this has to do with hippies. While it is in the nature of most hippies to rebel, I don''t think it was ever their intention to overthrow anybody. i've heard of rage against the machine but haven't heard them...are they any good? eek
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Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 12:12 am
Rust Turtle phriedphishphan Someone''s been listening to a lot of Rage Against the Machine. Anyway, I don''t see what this has to do with hippies. While it is in the nature of most hippies to rebel, I don''t think it was ever their intention to overthrow anybody. i've heard of rage against the machine but haven't heard them...are they any good? eek Zack de la Rocha = teh awesome whee
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Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 10:57 pm
phriedphishphan Someone''''s been listening to a lot of Rage Against the Machine. Anyway, I don''''t see what this has to do with hippies. While it is in the nature of most hippies to rebel, I don''''t think it was ever their intention to overthrow anybody. Here we see a general statement applied to a number of different people. Some of these "hippies" were registered Democrats with suburban homes who painted peace signs on their faces, but others advocated "Dope, Guns, and ******** in the Streets". This last group wanted to overthrow EVERYTHING. When I was younger and thought I didn''t have a future, I would have been inclined to sympathize with these types. However, in a modern context it is far more effective to infiltrate the system from within. Get a good job. One that pays well, but doesn''t dehumanize you or desecrate the Earth. It''s hard to do, and will take a lot of working for evil people, doing unpleasant jobs before you can do fun jobs for awesome people. While on this road, one thing I have found to be effective is liberating inanimate objects from within the confines of any number of particularly evil workplaces. That way they can taste the sweet nectar of freedom. However, this probably goes against legislation in most places, so I can''t recommend it across the board, or in fact at all. Also, listening to Rage Against the Machine is not enough. Political messages won''t expand your mind. Oh, and about the "life sucks" thing, Mr. Darkfist, I disagree. Life is good on a truly fundamental level. However, it''s only as good as one makes it. Sometimes it''s not easy to see the sunset through the smog. Okay, enough subversion for today.
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Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 10:41 am
yay for fatalism...you deserve all the repression you get...face it your privaliged enough not to fight the govt...while we can sit here debating about the govt and hippiness others are fighting and dieing for freedom...please dont disrepect these brave souls
the govt MUST be overthrown and eventually it will but as long as too many people like you are around to b***h about the futility of revolution then it will continue on and the oppression, outright murder, and terrorism comited by all govts will continue
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Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 3:40 pm
Rust Turtle Here's the problem the government can't be overthrown, why, because if we do kick them out which is IMPOSSIBLE NO MATTER WHAT WE DO; they will choose new members to take over and they will make a few new laws which will not be permission to smoke marijuana or gay marraige rights. Then they would take over and decide to use another system to rule us...why can't people see that this is monarchy, just under different terms. you are five years older than me, but seem five younger. that's okay. maybe that's just me or maybe it's just this one post i happened to read and caught you on a bad day. first of all, you have a serious problem if ALL you care about are those two meaningless issues and secondly the government can be overthrown. Oh, yes, it can. And it would be so, so easy to do. Who controls the world? Two percent of the people that live in America. Where does that leave the rest of us? You honestly believe that the people can't turn? Oh, they can. However, it's not so easy. Americans, because that's all we are discussing right now, are willing to trade working for corporations that basically farm them for the luxuries of air conditioning, food in the fridge, and cars in the driveway. You get the idea. No. It's not going to happen, but it CAN.
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Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 11:59 pm
Darkfist007 The only thing us hippies can do is simply act the way we feel is right, and treat others with respect. The time will come for a era of "hippie-ness" again, but we just have to wait, and teach our kids and out peers how to act properly, then when the time comes, we will make a change, and that is the only type of over throwing us hippies can do. @ you thinkers: yes that play works 2 fold. ninja Right on brother! -Violence begets violence. And if you're trying to overthrow the government, you're trying to control it as it is trying to control us! Mass social change WILL hppen, but time is change's master. Alls ya can do is hope to be everything that you are and ony ever worry about growing within yourself. Also making only small changes at a time. Nobody can go straight from being a consuming pig, to a giving tree (not to insult pigs or anything)! Most importantly, you have to LOVE the opposition. Love the differences between us all and realize the close connection, too.
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Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 7:23 am
so while you sit here and preach love and respect millions are dieing...what does you hippieness get them?..nothing. Face it some people cant wait for everybody to realize love and respect are the way...some people actually have to fight for the freedom and their very lives.
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Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 9:40 am
Soymilk_Gun so while you sit here and preach love and respect millions are dieing...what does you hippieness get them?..nothing. Face it some people cant wait for everybody to realize love and respect are the way...some people actually have to fight for the freedom and their very lives. I just don't see how that works, man. If everyone respected and loved eachother, we wouldnt HAVE to fight.
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Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 9:42 am
But look, like many have said. If the era of hippy-ness comes, then we will 'overthrow' the goverment. And prevail with love. Like someone said, life is what you make it. If the world was peaceful, we wouldnt need government.
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Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 1:36 am
Ledzep07 well put. government can be overthrown(by looking at history) but they normally end up producing the same thing that was there in the first place. Which doesnt do much good Animal Farm
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