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Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2004 2:22 pm
This is a place where we can discuss everything about satanism, such as myths, truths, what they believe, so on and so forth. so to start off, here is a short list of definitions of the word satanism: these are taken from www.religioustolerance.org Quote: Satanists are followers of a Satanic religion: Most religious historians, mainline Christians, liberal Christians, etc., view Satanism as Satanists themselves do: as a very small religious group that is unrelated to any other faith, and whose members feel free to satisfy their urges responsibly, exhibit kindness to their friends, and attack their enemies. There are perhaps ten thousand Satanists in North America. By far the largest Satanic organization is the Church of Satan. Accurate membership numbers are quite impossible to estimate. Satanists are followers of a religion other than Conservative Christianity: Conservative Christians generally believe that there are only two powerful supernatural forces in the world: their God and Satan. A few of them believe that if a person does not worship their God and hold their beliefs, then they must be worshiping Satan. The latter are, by definition, Satanists. Thus, they view all religions different from their own to be are forms of Satanism. This would include established world religions from Buddhism to Zoroastrianism, and might even include liberal and some mainline Christians. Satanists would then make up in excess of 90% of the world's population -- i.e. everyone who is not a conservative Christian. Using this definition, the term "Satanism" becomes almost meaningless. All non-Christians are Satanists: Some feel that all non-Christian religions are forms of Satanism. This would imply that all Buddhists, Hindus, Muslims - in fact about 67% of the world's population are Satanists. Non-Abramics are Satanists: Others feel that all religions other than the three Abramic religions Judaism, Christianity and Islam, are inspired by Satan and are thus a form of Satanism. By this reasoning, about 45% of the people of the world are Satanists. Followers of certain small religions are Satanists: Still others feel that the major world religions are not Satanism. However, they view a wide variety of unrelated religions and practices (such as Santeria, Vodun, other Caribbean religions, New Age, Druidism, Wicca, other Neopagan religions and religious Satanism) to be various forms of Satanism. They often include some non-religious groups and activities -- as varied as the Masonic order, the Occult, astrology, and tarot card reading -- within their definition of Satanism. There would be millions of Satanists in North America by this definition. these are all defintions of satanism, but are they good definitions? well religioustolerance.org didn't think so either, so here is their working definition Quote: Worships the Christian devil. Although the Christian Churches taught during the Renaissance that devil worshipers were very common, such individuals were in fact extremely rare, and remain so. The very few who do exist appear to be solitary practitioners; they do not appear to have formed an organization. Accepts Satan as a pre-Christian life-principle concept worth emulating. These are religious Satanists, who follow a number of religious traditions, of which the largest by far is the Church of Satan. so the above is what a satanist is, someone who worships the christian devil, or somone who accepts satan as a pre-christian life-principle concept worth emulating (i.e. they do not believe satan necessarily exists, but they believe more in the philosophy of satanism). so come and share your myths, truths or what have you about satanism.
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Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2004 4:13 pm
I have found the bible of satan. I read half of it and far as I could tell, it was too reilgon based on worpshipping yourself. Treating yourself like a god in away. I have been told by several satanists that is how it is. I do resreach this subject on the net yet because I will be judge by my siblings and trust me, they would jump at this minus my twin.
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Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2004 5:02 pm
DrathBlue I have found the bible of satan. I read half of it and far as I could tell, it was too reilgon based on worpshipping yourself. Treating yourself like a god in away. I have been told by several satanists that is how it is. I do resreach this subject on the net yet because I will be judge by my siblings and trust me, they would jump at this minus my twin. well, I guess you could say its like treating yourself like a god. really the basis of satanism is to realize that you are the only power over yourself, there is no higher authority, and that you should be able to do what ever you want (there are a few limits, but not many). I am not sure if this applies to the luciferian satanism though. NOTE: Luciferian satanism: (don't know if thats a real term, but this is what I call it) is the kind of satansim that praises satan (Lucifer). the other kind of satanism, athiestic: doesn't believe in god, or even satan, they believe the above.
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Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 3:13 pm
chaoticpuppet DrathBlue I have found the bible of satan. I read half of it and far as I could tell, it was too reilgon based on worpshipping yourself. Treating yourself like a god in away. I have been told by several satanists that is how it is. I do resreach this subject on the net yet because I will be judge by my siblings and trust me, they would jump at this minus my twin. well, I guess you could say its like treating yourself like a god. really the basis of satanism is to realize that you are the only power over yourself, there is no higher authority, and that you should be able to do what ever you want (there are a few limits, but not many). I am not sure if this applies to the luciferian satanism though. NOTE: Luciferian satanism: (don't know if thats a real term, but this is what I call it) is the kind of satansim that praises satan (Lucifer). the other kind of satanism, athiestic: doesn't believe in god, or even satan, they believe the above. Aww, thanks for making it a bit more clear to me.
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Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 3:32 pm
I thought there was a funny satanic statement. I don't remember the exact wording - and it might not have been one of the statements but another key part...
If someone is in your home that you do not want there, ask him politely to leave. If he does not, destroy him.
^^
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Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 3:35 pm
In actual fact though, the impression of Satanism - or the brand of Satanism my friend follows - that I've gotten from my friend seems, as you said, an acceptance of self and rejection of the idea of a higher power. Also, that it's not harmful in and of itself - what's harmful is crossing a Satanist. It emulates intelligence and self-respect, both of which are good things.
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Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 5:21 pm
Naeryn I thought there was a funny satanic statement. I don't remember the exact wording - and it might not have been one of the statements but another key part... If someone is in your home that you do not want there, ask him politely to leave. If he does not, destroy him. ^^ yes that is one of their rules, however, I will have to look up and see which form of satanism it falls under.
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Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2004 10:18 am
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A Murder of Angels Captain
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Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2004 10:23 am
chaoticpuppet Naeryn I thought there was a funny satanic statement. I don't remember the exact wording - and it might not have been one of the statements but another key part... If someone is in your home that you do not want there, ask him politely to leave. If he does not, destroy him. ^^ yes that is one of their rules, however, I will have to look up and see which form of satanism it falls under. LaVey's Church of Satan. If it's the above statement you're referring to, there's a difference between religious tolerance and this. I'm sure if someone broke into your home and tried to kill you, you'd do all you could to see that that wouldn't happen. I know I would. As another note, the statement doesn't literally mean either be polite or destroy. It basically means to do every possible thing you can UP TO destroying the intruder, if you have to.
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Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2004 6:42 pm
A Murder of Angels chaoticpuppet Naeryn I thought there was a funny satanic statement. I don't remember the exact wording - and it might not have been one of the statements but another key part... If someone is in your home that you do not want there, ask him politely to leave. If he does not, destroy him. ^^ yes that is one of their rules, however, I will have to look up and see which form of satanism it falls under. LaVey's Church of Satan. thanks
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Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2004 6:51 pm
sweatdrop I've been told on a couple of occasions that Satanism should be my religion since I'm pretty intolerant of stupid people and like to rant about killing babies (yes, its all in jest.) Granted its not a religion I'd ever go into, but I find it interesting nonetheless.
Did you know that LaVey was actually a Carnie? It looks like alot of LaVey's book took both Christian bible and the Golden Dawn and just altered a few words to make it fit towards his book and beliefs.
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Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2004 6:59 pm
xdarktigress sweatdrop I've been told on a couple of occasions that Satanism should be my religion since I'm pretty intolerant of stupid people and like to rant about killing babies (yes, its all in jest.) Granted its not a religion I'd ever go into, but I find it interesting nonetheless. Did you know that LaVey was actually a Carnie? It looks like alot of LaVey's book took both Christian bible and the Golden Dawn and just altered a few words to make it fit towards his book and beliefs. yes it does, I have heard this from many people, and i too believe that this is what he did. why wouldn't you ever go into satanism? I did once, its not that bad.
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Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2004 7:06 pm
I didn't want to go into satanism because well, it just seemed so empty to just focus on yourself all the time. As much as I hate stupid people running around causing catastrophes they add to the spice of life. With out stupid people, the world would be pretty boring. If everything just centered around me, nothing would ever get done in the long run, and it wouldn't accomplish leaving an impressoin when I die.
^___^ I know a ton of dead baby jokes.
What's the difference between a truck full of dead babies and a truck full of bowling balls? Can't use a pitch fork to unload a truck full of bowling balls.
Why use a pitchfork to unload a truck full of dead babies? To see which ones are alive or not.
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Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2004 7:18 pm
xdarktigress I didn't want to go into satanism because well, it just seemed so empty to just focus on yourself all the time. As much as I hate stupid people running around causing catastrophes they add to the spice of life. With out stupid people, the world would be pretty boring. If everything just centered around me, nothing would ever get done in the long run, and it wouldn't accomplish leaving an impressoin when I die. ^___^ I know a ton of dead baby jokes. What's the difference between a truck full of dead babies and a truck full of bowling balls? Can't use a pitch fork to unload a truck full of bowling balls. Why use a pitchfork to unload a truck full of dead babies? To see which ones are alive or not. lol, i love dead baby jokes. I see were your coming from with the emptyness part of satanism. thats part of the reason i left.
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Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2004 7:21 pm
chaoticpuppet lol, i love dead baby jokes. I see were your coming from with the emptyness part of satanism. thats part of the reason i left. I know some people who have been happy in it though. But I dunno. I like being with people. Mabey not neccessarily interacting with them, but I like being with people.
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