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 Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 12:00 pm
There are a lot of myths and legends about dragons, especially in the UK and the rest of Europe, along with places further east like the Orient.
There are also a lot of different shapes, sizes and types of dragons.
From my understanding and personal perspective, the following applies:
Dragons - have two arms, two legs, and one set of wings (at least).
Wyverns - have either two legs and a pair of wings, or are serpentine and have only wings.
Drakes - have two arms, two legs, and one set of wings like dragons, only they're smaller than both dragons and wyverns.
This thread is also going to speculate in the same way as the thread about Vampirism on how dragons physically work when it comes to their legendary abilities, ie: breathing fire.
I did read somewhere that it would have something to do with their diet and particular gases in their lungs.
Let us discuss...This links you to a longer post I have made further down.
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 12:14 am
Dragons are the greatest and my favorite kind of creature. I dont have much time today, but i will post my thoughts tomarrow when i have more time. Until then, long live Dragons!
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B-rad the Vampiric Shadow
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 10:58 am
I have this whole book on Dragons but I seem to have left that book at home crying
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 11:37 am
Dragons hm what can i say about them well here's one thing that i know
I LOVE THEM!!! heart heart heart i have a movie about them and it is awsome it tells u about how they could be real in the real world and how they have adapt over time through the time of the dinosaurs to the Medival Times
i love dragons and even draw them for 3 years
if u want to ask me anything on dragons go ahead(though some i may not know so please don't get mad) sweatdrop
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 4:55 pm
Ah yes there are so many theories about dragons.Personally I think they could have existed wehn the dinosaurs did but maybe I think that just because I'd like to beleive in dragons. Because of course you would think they would find some semblance of a dragon skelaton by now if they had existed.
What you said about the families of dragons seems to be about what I think.Dragons being the largest and most powerful of all.The wyvrens being smaller with the option of having arms and legs, But with drakes I've found that sometimes they are tought of as implike instead of a small dragon.
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Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 10:12 am
That's a picture of a drake I found on a google search.
Remember though, that bones - though they may be exceedingly tough, can be burned and turned into ash, or buried. I simply don't think they've been found because their skeletons have either been destroyed somehow or people haven't looked in the right places/not been able to excavate far enough.
Those are my thoughts anyway.
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Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 10:33 am
Yeah, the whole thing about dragons is cool but it's mostly imaginary. Did anyone see the documentary about them on the animal planet? Before the guild was refurbished, we did comment on that but maybe we should discuss it again. I found it fascinating even though it was a complete work of fiction. BTW, here's one of my favorite illustrations of a dragon:  I love Magic the Gathering cuz they have tons of dragon cards. In case anyone is interested in seeing more dragons pics, I have this album on my photobucket account dedicated to them. It's got 2 pages so, check it out if you feel like it: My Dragons Album
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Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 6:06 pm
Good point Mel the bones could have been turned to ash. I think Dragons deffinitly COULD have existed I just don't know that hey did,I think if they did that would make this world a whole lot more intersting to me. To know thta something from a fantasy world existed in our world it could open all sorts of new possiblities. Alas one can only hope.
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Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 8:51 am
Although I think the film is rubbish, Reign of Fire raises a very interesting possibility don't you think? For anyone who's seen it anyway.
I'm interested how their biology would work when it comes to breathing fire as well. As I mentioned in the first post, I read a theory somewhere that it has a lot to do with their diet and differences in biology to certain degrees.
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 10:15 am
I love dragons, because I think that they are sooo beautiful. But I never really study them, coz so far, I found joy in simply drawing them^^
But I do like to know more about them^^
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 2:15 pm
Fantasy for me these days has to be logical and also has to have explanations. For dragons, questions such as this - "ok, so they breathe fire, HOW?"
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 9:18 pm
Dragons are cool cretures.
In Asia, Dragons are helpful and nice creatures.
In Europe/etc, Dragons are evil or somthing.
But in the fantasy world, Dragons could be eather nice or evil or anything.
I would be intrested in reading myths/legends about dragons.
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 11:35 am
Hey Mel! Didn't you see that documentary on animal planet? I recall seeing an explanation of how they could breathe fire there, I just can't remember it...
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 7:10 pm
Dragons are cool, but as a biologist by schooling I must say that the chances of them being real either in the present or the past is slim. The Animal Planet documentary and the movie Reign of Fire did both propose intersting and plausible theories, but ultimately these fall short scientifically. The bottom line is that the energy necessary to be a dragon - to breathe fire and fly with so much body weight (if possible) - would be to great for such a creature to successfully compete with other animals. Also a traditional dragon has a total of six limbs, hind legs, four legs, and wings. There is not to my knowledge any evidence that any six-limbed vertebrates have ever lived on the earth. That is why, going back to the Animal Planet documentary mentioned earlier, the first part about the ancient dragons (walked on two legs like a carnivorous dinosaur and had forelimbs adapted as wings like an ostrich) was the most convincing of all. Beyond that I found it hard to believe.
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 7:53 am
hypnocrown Hey Mel! Didn't you see that documentary on animal planet? I recall seeing an explanation of how they could breathe fire there, I just can't remember it...
I have freeview, which is a box that you buy that has free channels added to it.
I personally argue the first point this guy makes about Western Dragons. It's on BlackDrago.comBlackDrago.com Western Dragons are what we think when we hear "dragon" being used. A huge reptile with four legs, a long tail, with two wings. Its head is that of an alligator or a crocodile (wedge shape, actually) and is usually accompanied with horns, spines, spikes, and a massive amount of other things. I have a strange feeling that wings would be out of the question; I have yet to see a non-insectoid creature with more then four limbs; four feet, two wings? Have you seen a bird with arms? I have not. What about a huge insect? I have not seen one, either. So, the idea of the Western style dragons being real is questionable.
Angels, though they are humanoid, have wings. They are depicted as having two legs, two arms and a set of wings. It just so happens that dragons have a reptilian body shape, and are in-fact reptiles.Here is the website relating to the Animal Planet documentary - Animal Planet - Dragons.Animal Planet - Dragons Fantasy Fact: Dragons ingested platinum, which ignited gut-produced gas, allowing them to breathe fire. Fantasy Fact: Dragons produced hydrogen in their guts, which produced fire when ignited by platinum.
Fantasy-Fan.org "Dragon Existence"
MountainMan.com "On the existence of Dragons..."
Rae.org "Footprints of Dragons"
Answers In Genesis.org "Dragons: Animals...not apparitions"
Dragons.Monstrous.com "Types of Dragons"
Tigress.com "FAQ Dragons"
Draconian.com "Dragon Physiology
The Realism of Dragons.
With no disrespect to your opinions, SK, you do sem rather sceptical about mythological beings/creatures. If God is possible, why aren't other things? What about spirits/ghosts? Some people believe it's rubbish, where others like myself believe they exist. I've personally encountered a few in presence only - what I believe to be the spirits of the dead anyway.
How then, could they exist? They're not corporeal, so what are they made of? Just because something is difficult to explain or possibly can't be explained, that's not to say it can't exist. Dragons are one such topic that can be explained to a certain extent. In addition, legends and folkloren had to come from somewhere. It's true, someone could have just made the idea up, but then someone might have really seen one - if not several.
This is no different to my discussion about Vampires. Just because something is supernatural and has an explanation that baffles us, that possibly cannot be explained 100%, that doesn't disprove it.
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