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 Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 2:22 pm
I've read up on hybrids a little bit, but have come to the conclusion that other then being eco-friendly there is no upside to them.
Anyone differ in opinion?
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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 7:04 pm
Some car manufacterers are building performance hybrids that get more power from a smaller engine, or so they say.
The Lexus LS400h is an example. So is the Accord V6 Hybrid.
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Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 10:27 am
What do you mean? the LFA? or the Supra?
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Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 7:42 pm
The Lexus LS600h is equipped with the standard 4.6 V8, and Toyota's party piece hybrid system to make it an AWD car that is "The equivalent of a 6 liter class engined car" according to Toyota in terms of performance.
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Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 9:10 pm
My personal opinion is that if you can afford a hybrid, you don't have to worry about paying for gas anyway
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 10:49 pm
I have never liked the idea of a hybrid, I see them as a good short term investment but I would never purchase a hybrid with over 100000 miles.
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 7:35 am
I agree with CXTKRS1... with more electronic components on the car (especially as integral as it is in the hybrid's engine directly), the hybrid's reliability at high mileage is... questionable. I don't know about everyone else, but I totally hate repairing electronics on cars.
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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 6:14 pm
Jerafsx I've read up on hybrids a little bit, but have come to the conclusion that other then being eco-friendly there is no upside to them. Anyone differ in opinion? actually dispite what advertisements say gas electric Hybrids are not Eco-friendly far from it. Most of Elecrticity is produced from the burning of coal which polutes the air. The only reason that they can say that they are eco friendly is because a small percentage of electricity is made from wind, Nuclear power plants (i know not that eco friendly however car manufacturers argue that Nuclear Power plants do not produce green house gasses), water, sunlight, and creating energy from the subatomic level. As for uses the only use of having a hybrid is so that you can stick it to the oil companies and use electricity insted and if you start hating you electric company then you can buy from the oil companies.
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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 8:03 pm
Onewing949 Jerafsx I've read up on hybrids a little bit, but have come to the conclusion that other then being eco-friendly there is no upside to them. Anyone differ in opinion? actually dispite what advertisements say gas electric Hybrids are not Eco-friendly far from it. Most of Elecrticity is produced from the burning of coal which polutes the air. The only reason that they can say that they are eco friendly is because a small percentage of electricity is made from wind, Nuclear power plants (i know not that eco friendly however car manufacturers argue that Nuclear Power plants do not produce green house gasses), water, sunlight, and creating energy from the subatomic level. As for uses the only use of having a hybrid is so that you can stick it to the oil companies and use electricity insted and if you start hating you electric company then you can buy from the oil companies. Ethanol is far worse than even electric. E85 costs more than regular gas, burns faster, and knocks like a crackhead in a porno filming session. but IMO, the methanol/alcohol injection feed adaptors are more me... as well as the biodiesels. i believe someone took a K1 Attack Accord and got it 500hp and 500mpg on biodiesel... but the numbers could be wrong as it was an old article.
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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 8:11 pm
Gunmetal Graphite Onewing949 Jerafsx I've read up on hybrids a little bit, but have come to the conclusion that other then being eco-friendly there is no upside to them. Anyone differ in opinion? actually dispite what advertisements say gas electric Hybrids are not Eco-friendly far from it. Most of Elecrticity is produced from the burning of coal which polutes the air. The only reason that they can say that they are eco friendly is because a small percentage of electricity is made from wind, Nuclear power plants (i know not that eco friendly however car manufacturers argue that Nuclear Power plants do not produce green house gasses), water, sunlight, and creating energy from the subatomic level. As for uses the only use of having a hybrid is so that you can stick it to the oil companies and use electricity insted and if you start hating you electric company then you can buy from the oil companies. Ethanol is far worse than even electric. E85 costs more than regular gas, burns faster, and knocks like a crackhead in a porno filming session. but IMO, the methanol/alcohol injection feed adaptors are more me... as well as the biodiesels. i believe someone took a K1 Attack Accord and got it 500hp and 500mpg on biodiesel... but the numbers could be wrong as it was an old article. Just curious, where are you getting that information? E85 is a great alternative to petrol, but they technology to create it in the massive amounts needed aren't available yet. Also, a vehicle which is set up for petrol only can't take E85 instantly. I doubt any vehicle, no matter the fuel source, will produce 500hp and still achive a high gas milage, it's just the simple trade off, power or economy.
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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 8:16 pm
Onewing949 Jerafsx I've read up on hybrids a little bit, but have come to the conclusion that other then being eco-friendly there is no upside to them. Anyone differ in opinion? actually dispite what advertisements say gas electric Hybrids are not Eco-friendly far from it. Most of Elecrticity is produced from the burning of coal which polutes the air. The only reason that they can say that they are eco friendly is because a small percentage of electricity is made from wind, Nuclear power plants (i know not that eco friendly however car manufacturers argue that Nuclear Power plants do not produce green house gasses), water, sunlight, and creating energy from the subatomic level. As for uses the only use of having a hybrid is so that you can stick it to the oil companies and use electricity insted and if you start hating you electric company then you can buy from the oil companies. How does a gas electric hybrid get it's power from coal? Last time I checked, the gas engine charges the batteries, and depending on the situation, runs the vehicle between 100% gas/0% electricity to 100% electricity/0% gas. The main problem with Hybrids are that the batteries are very toxic, to humans and the enviorment, so you can't just throw it in a scrapyard.
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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 8:21 pm
gman15975 Gunmetal Graphite Onewing949 Jerafsx I've read up on hybrids a little bit, but have come to the conclusion that other then being eco-friendly there is no upside to them. Anyone differ in opinion? actually dispite what advertisements say gas electric Hybrids are not Eco-friendly far from it. Most of Elecrticity is produced from the burning of coal which polutes the air. The only reason that they can say that they are eco friendly is because a small percentage of electricity is made from wind, Nuclear power plants (i know not that eco friendly however car manufacturers argue that Nuclear Power plants do not produce green house gasses), water, sunlight, and creating energy from the subatomic level. As for uses the only use of having a hybrid is so that you can stick it to the oil companies and use electricity insted and if you start hating you electric company then you can buy from the oil companies. Ethanol is far worse than even electric. E85 costs more than regular gas, burns faster, and knocks like a crackhead in a porno filming session. but IMO, the methanol/alcohol injection feed adaptors are more me... as well as the biodiesels. i believe someone took a K1 Attack Accord and got it 500hp and 500mpg on biodiesel... but the numbers could be wrong as it was an old article. Just curious, where are you getting that information? E85 is a great alternative to petrol, but they technology to create it in the massive amounts needed aren't available yet. Also, a vehicle which is set up for petrol only can't take E85 instantly. I doubt any vehicle, no matter the fuel source, will produce 500hp and still achive a high gas milage, it's just the simple trade off, power or economy. i'll post up links tomorrow, unless you want to go ahead and find them yourself. The E85 setup is available in several states already, but in limited stations, mostly in southern or eastern US. As far as the monetary values, MotorWeek, Tomorrows Technician, Car & Driver, and Consumer Reports are where i get a lot of my info from. as far as the 500hp car, it's the K1 Attack. K1 = company, Attack = model, base of car = honda accord.
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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 8:49 pm
Gunmetal Graphite gman15975 Gunmetal Graphite Onewing949 Jerafsx I've read up on hybrids a little bit, but have come to the conclusion that other then being eco-friendly there is no upside to them. Anyone differ in opinion? actually dispite what advertisements say gas electric Hybrids are not Eco-friendly far from it. Most of Elecrticity is produced from the burning of coal which polutes the air. The only reason that they can say that they are eco friendly is because a small percentage of electricity is made from wind, Nuclear power plants (i know not that eco friendly however car manufacturers argue that Nuclear Power plants do not produce green house gasses), water, sunlight, and creating energy from the subatomic level. As for uses the only use of having a hybrid is so that you can stick it to the oil companies and use electricity insted and if you start hating you electric company then you can buy from the oil companies. Ethanol is far worse than even electric. E85 costs more than regular gas, burns faster, and knocks like a crackhead in a porno filming session. but IMO, the methanol/alcohol injection feed adaptors are more me... as well as the biodiesels. i believe someone took a K1 Attack Accord and got it 500hp and 500mpg on biodiesel... but the numbers could be wrong as it was an old article. Just curious, where are you getting that information? E85 is a great alternative to petrol, but they technology to create it in the massive amounts needed aren't available yet. Also, a vehicle which is set up for petrol only can't take E85 instantly. I doubt any vehicle, no matter the fuel source, will produce 500hp and still achive a high gas milage, it's just the simple trade off, power or economy. i'll post up links tomorrow, unless you want to go ahead and find them yourself. The E85 setup is available in several states already, but in limited stations, mostly in southern or eastern US. As far as the monetary values, MotorWeek, Tomorrows Technician, Car & Driver, and Consumer Reports are where i get a lot of my info from. as far as the 500hp car, it's the K1 Attack. K1 = company, Attack = model, base of car = honda accord. It's an interesting car, but I'd never buy it. I've heard both sides of the E85 argument. It'll be up to the government to decided if it's worth while. If you're getting 30+ mpg, then you're doing good, IMO.
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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 11:50 pm
Ethanol is quite possible the most promising alternative source to gasoline. I just want another alternative to drive down prices of crude oil
Most cars todays can run off gas that is a mixture of Gasoline and ethanol. While Ethanol is just as pollutant as gasoline, it is less pollutant to refine it into a fuel. Brazil made it law that all gas station there must have all alternatives of Fuels available. all of the cars there can run off Ethanol or a mixture of both. The only downside of Ethanol is it does not work well in cold, it also provides engines with better power and torque. While I don't think Ethanol engines get better MPG just having a major alternative source at the pump will give these oil Mongols a run for their money. More competition = the cheaper our gasoline will cost.
A barrel of crude oil = 94 dollars.
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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 1:09 pm
gman15975 How does a gas electric hybrid get it's power from coal? Last time I checked, the gas engine charges the batteries, and depending on the situation, runs the vehicle between 100% gas/0% electricity to 100% electricity/0% gas. The main problem with Hybrids are that the batteries are very toxic, to humans and the enviorment, so you can't just throw it in a scrapyard. Yeah I was gonna say.
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