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 Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 7:10 pm
Leviticus Chapter 18 Verse 22 "Thou shalt not lie with mankind as with womankind, it is an abomination"
This is an actual verse in the bible, and sadly there are many who believe it to be true.
For these people, those who use this verse in there defence that the fact that the bible says homosexuality is a sin rules out the love everyone, all are equal part. For them I have but one question.
Do you like shrimp?
Because if I am not mistaken in the bible (just a few verses before that lie with man part, it says that to eat shellfish is a sin.
So if you can eat shrimp or any other shell fish for that matter, why can't she eat p***y, or a guy eat d**k?
And for every homophobes, whose only reply to that is "Go with God" or "Accept God in your life"
I have but one response...
I've accepted God, It's a*****e's like you I have a problem with
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Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 11:58 am
If you're looking for any sort of discussion here, either tack on points that you want addressed, or start playing the devil's advocate. How many people here do you think will side with the bigots and try to debate the other side?
It's not a debate if everyone's on the same side. neutral
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Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 11:53 am
Look for a verse where Jesus condemns homosexuality... there isn't one. Except revelations which I have every reason to doubt, especially Jesus' part in it as he acts remarkably different.
The OT mentions it quite a few times but who cares? The OT is crazy, like Lot sending his daughter out to be raped to death to save two angels? That's so entirely ridiculous and disgusting. Angels don't need saving from men.
Also, Elisha commanded God to send bears to maul some young people who insulted him for being bald. God of course does it and they die brutally.
Silly much?
BUT, if you really must consider the OT, God does love to death David who seemed more than friendly with Jonathan.
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Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 1:03 pm
although I'm an atheist, in the Bible's defence, God loves the sinner, but hates the sin, although since Homosexuals have no desire to stop "sinning" it puts them in a bit of a pickle.
"GodHatesFags.com" although, is completely wrong, since god doesn't hate the f**, he hates the faggotry xD
and as far as brushing off the verse: if you can brush off one verse as being false or non-applicable, then why believe the rest of it? All verses are equally likely of being false as they are true. It's frowned upon to take what you like from the bible and leave the rest. Either believe it in its entirety, or don't believe any of it and just agree.
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Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 12:56 pm
Personally, I'm not Christian, but, in my opinion, you can't take one line in a completely literal sense and ignore another line all together. From what I have seen, a lot of Christians (not all, but a lot) pick and choose what they want to take as truth and what they want to brush off as being an archaic rule that no longer applies to our modern age.
I don't think I can say much, because I'm not very familiar with the Bible; but I think that if Jesus taught love, he'd be appalled at the fact that his followers are using his name to spread so much hate.
But that's just what I think...
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Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 2:15 am
I was talking about the bible on the first day of school in Spanish class to one of my friends, and a freshman overheard, and it went a little something like this:
Me: Ugh. Okay, so. I don't get why Jessica puts so much pressure on me for being gay. She talks about the bible condemning homosexuality, and then turns around and eats shellfish. That's a sin. [here is where I went on a rant about most sins, and then I came up with] Planting two kinds of seeds in the same field, wearing clothing of two kinds of threads, that's a sin! Those are sins!
Tori: Blah. Ye-
Freshman Girl: Those are just metaphors.
Me: What?
Freshie: Those passages. The whole two seeds and two threads in one thing. They're saying, like, two people who are different can't be in love. It's a sin.
Me: So, you're saying black and white people shouldn't get married?
Freshie: Exactly.
Me: Oh, so you're racist?
Freshie: No. I'm not. Not at all. [Etc. She went on an dug a nice, racist hole around herself, while several Mexicans, and black people (including some of my best friends) listened in]
In other words: This freshman isn't very well liked by the kids at school anymore.
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Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 6:56 pm
Who wants to see...
how do we even know that "God" is real? If you look into history it tells us about how a bunch of other religions were made up by this one guy. But when it goes into the Bible, it talks about how there were prophets who "claimed to have messages from God" and that's how the Bible was made. All those quotes could come from selfish people who want the world to revolve around them. They probably didn't like to see the homosexuality just like a lot of other people in the world and decided to write about it and it ended up being put in a book. Along with the shellfish thing. They probably were some weird vegetarian person too. Who knows? But it doesn't really matter because people should live their lives the way they want to. And if someone wants to live their life by some book then they should be able to without anyone else telling them its wrong and without them having to force that onto anyone else.
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Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 4:48 am
Zoroastrianism ... a religion made by a Persian king...pretty much JUST like ours...it singles out small groups and destroys all that say its not true...they also worshiped a single god who told them how to live their lives...but just like ours this religion was CREATED false storys unrecorded events ect ect...and guess what...the Persians GOT WIPED OUT...atheism ftw i can argue with anything in the bible even the fact that its become a control mechanism to keep the united states in line...also the fact that every church ive been to in the last 6 years seems like they are some kind of CULT -.- anyone ever notice that every religion that involves a single all powerful god excludes gays and most other races? think about that...they say god is all powerful and he created us...we have been proven to be monkeys....if god made us he made a monkey and when it lost its hair he was like "******** NOT AGAIN!" -.- thats what i think
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Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 8:22 am
WickedPookie Leviticus Chapter 18 Verse 22 "Thou shalt not lie with mankind as with womankind, it is an abomination"
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Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 1:16 am
Old Testament law was fulfilled when Jesus was crucified. This means that he not only took on the sins of the world like it says in the New Testament, but he also fulfilled the Old Testament laws and nullified them. After Jesus ascended, there was no more blood sacrifice. People did not continue to slaughter animals in the temple, and the Levites found another food source (inside joke for the Bible Thumper).
But...Just because Jesus nullified the Old Testament law doesn't mean he never said a word about them again. Jesus preached against sexual immorality and guess what that includes...
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Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 1:22 am
Skittlefritz Who wants to see...
how do we even know that "God" is real? If you look into history it tells us about how a bunch of other religions were made up by this one guy. But when it goes into the Bible, it talks about how there were prophets who "claimed to have messages from God" and that's how the Bible was made. All those quotes could come from selfish people who want the world to revolve around them. They probably didn't like to see the homosexuality just like a lot of other people in the world and decided to write about it and it ended up being put in a book. Along with the shellfish thing. They probably were some weird vegetarian person too. Who knows? But it doesn't really matter because people should live their lives the way they want to. And if someone wants to live their life by some book then they should be able to without anyone else telling them its wrong and without them having to force that onto anyone else. That's exactly what I've been saying for 510 years.
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Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 7:35 pm
Equations:
Bible = RAWR I HATE HOMOS!!! evil
God = I luv evwybodee! 4laugh
Jesus = Hey look, dad! I can walk on water! rofl
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Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 6:51 am
Imitation Stradivarius Old Testament law was fulfilled when Jesus was crucified. This means that he not only took on the sins of the world like it says in the New Testament, but he also fulfilled the Old Testament laws and nullified them. After Jesus ascended, there was no more blood sacrifice. People did not continue to slaughter animals in the temple, and the Levites found another food source (inside joke for the Bible Thumper). But...Just because Jesus nullified the Old Testament law doesn't mean he never said a word about them again. Jesus preached against sexual immorality and guess what that includes...
I've done extensive studies on homosexuality in the bible, and came up with many facts that are constant from different sources.
The whole "thou shall not" blah blah blah is actually a part of a purity code for holy men back in the day. That also includes the no mixed seeds and fabrics and shellfish, etc. Not to mention that the word "Abomination" in no way translates into "sin". An abomination is something that goes against practice of the times, and back then it was strongly frowned against to waste your seed.
This meant that any sexual practice that did not result in a child being created was discouraged. The reason for this was because the Hebrews were trying to preserve their population, and masturbation/sex with the same gender was counter productive to this.
A great source to read about all this and more is located here:
http://www.soulforce.org/article/homosexuality-bible-gay-christian
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Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 1:18 pm
I had a huge fight with my cousin in the middle of the mall about this.
God loves everyone, no matter what.
So, why should it matter?
True love knows no bounds, ya know?
Homosexuals are people too. They all deserve the same rights and everything as heterosexuals.
My cousin freaked out at me for supporting gay marriage. She yelled and screamed at me that I was going to hell for supporting it. She thinks that if one loves God, they can't be gay, and if they think they are, they have to "change idea of themselves"
Honestly, I'm happy she was only visiting and she lives like 40,000 miles away. sweatdrop
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ObsessionIsSuchAnUglyWord
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Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 7:08 pm
Actually Jesus was gay himself and had laid with another man, but it was banned when the bible was translated and probably before, because it would seem hypocritical.
And plus I honestly think the bible isn't a word for word rule, I think it's a type of book filled with morals and a 'how to not to be an a*****e' type thing that's been glorified beyond it's original thought and purpose.
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