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lord of the 4 realms

PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 1:25 pm


What do I need to make myself an alter?
PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 2:50 pm


Generally something representing the four elements and the God and Goddess.

http://davensjournal.com/index.htm?AltBas.xhtml&2

Textdump, but huge amounts of info.

Funa Spectrum


Sendoku

PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 6:04 pm


And here are a couple videos of altars that you can check out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCXs0NF_Wys

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfNc3fYqFqs

Oh and its spelt with an A, Altars. smile
PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 6:55 pm


should it be a good enough size to put on a desk

lord of the 4 realms


Sendoku

PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 7:14 pm


A desk, a shelf, a small table or even on the floor will work. Its up to you.
PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 9:04 pm


Goddess, I wish I had enough space in my apartment to have a desk-sized altar... *sigh*daydreams*

Anyhoo, I conquer with everything everyone had said, but I wanted to add one more point: an altar is the place (or one of the places) where you go to commune with the Gods. This in mind, there are a lot of things to consider: placement of the altar itself, what will go on the altar, the altars orientation to your spell-space, etc. I don't tell you this to overwhelm you, rather, I tell you to inspire you. Building an altar is a great opportunity for to add personal expression to your communication with the Divine. There is so much that can be done, and really, it's all up to you.

LadySorcha


lord of the 4 realms

PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 7:40 am


Some of the rites I want to practice require a nocturnal portal. What in the name of the night is a nocturnal portal and where do I find one? Is it a mirror?
PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 11:44 am


Where are you getting these rites?

Funa Spectrum


lord of the 4 realms

PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 2:07 pm


Ever heard of Konstantinos?
PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 2:41 pm


I don't think that it's something you can just simply find.

He/she doesn't talk about how to get/make one in any of the books they've written?

dark_angel_32189


lord of the 4 realms

PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 4:26 pm


Good point.
PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 5:14 pm


Right, I found him.

Apparently it's "a black scrying device". Probably a polished black/obsidian mirror. Though I guess black ink would work?

Funa Spectrum


dark_angel_32189

PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 5:31 pm


No, you're talking about a scrying mirror. He's talking about a nocturnal portal. Completely different things. Or maybe they're not... I don't really know what a nocturnal portal is. They just sound like they wouldn't be the same.
PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 5:40 pm


I found the Gothic Grimoire by Konstantinos online by Google book search. The page where he mentions the "nocturnal portal" is the description of casting the nocturnal circle, a fancy and completely irrelevant term for a circle casted at night.

He additionally mentions the "nocturnal portal" as being "reflective" and "handheld". My best guess is that it is, in fact, a black scrying mirror.

To see the text, try this link: Gothic Grimoire
It's on page 178.

Cheers,
S

LadySorcha


dark_angel_32189

PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 5:45 pm


Well, when you put it like that, it makes sense.

So then yeah, you can just get a regular mirror and paint it with black paint. Or you can buy one.
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