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 Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 1:12 am
After seeing the thread "A Demon is just another word for something people fear" I realised how foolish the world is. A daemon is not something we fear. A daemon is not necessarily evil, or "Unholy". IT is a supernatural being...
Angels, as much as it doesn't make sense, should actually be classed as daemons.
Though "holy people" as in christians would dislike this anthology, it is true. In fact, almost everything is a daemon, if it lives and breathes, and pumps blood. To something else it is a daemon. Cobras and Mongooses are daemons to each other. Everything that has a natural enemy, sees that enemy as a daemonic plague on their own kind.
I just thought I'd voice my opinion.
--Vincent Alliath
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Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 1:18 am
a daemon is:
a guardian spirit or guardian angel often associated with the communication of advice and inspiration.
A system related program or process that sits in the background until it is invoked by another process or some event to perform its task.
and has nothing to do with demons
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Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 1:23 am
No offence, but you are a fool. "Demon" is not the real spelling for what it means. "Daemons" are exactly what I was talking about. Quote: A system related program or process that sits in the background until it is invoked by another process or some event to perform its task I believe that's a virus/spyware. --Vincent Alliath
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Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 1:45 am
In Unix and other computer multitasking operating systems, a daemon (IPA pronunciation: /'deɪmən/ or /'dimən/[1]) is a computer program that runs in the background, rather than under the direct control of a user; they are usually initiated as processes. Typically daemons have names that end with the letter "d" (for example, syslogd, the daemon that handles the system log, or sshd, which handles the incoming SSH connections). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daemon_(computer_software)most of the stuff your computer does is done by a daemon
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Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 3:14 pm
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Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 3:38 pm
The term Daemon, dæmon, or demon has several meanings:
Daemon (mythology) - supernatural beings between mortals and gods, such as inferior divinities and ghosts of dead heroes
Daemon (computer software), a background process
Daemon (novel), a novel by Leinad Zeraus;
Dæmon (His Dark Materials) in the Philip Pullman trilogy of novels His Dark Materials
Daemon (Dungeons & Dragons) is the original name for creatures now called "Yugoloths" in the game Dungeons & Dragons
Daemon (Warhammer)
Daemon (Warcraft)
Daemon Sadi (SaDiablo) is a character in the Black Jewels Trilogy by Anne Bishop.
The Dæmons is a serial in the British science fiction television series Doctor Who
Daemon (Digimon)
Daemon is a character in the TV series ReBoot.
The BSD Daemon is the BSD operating system's mascot.
Daemon is a Swedish death metal band.
Daemon is a Brazilian Publisher House.
Daemon / Eidolon duality is a central theme of Anthony Peake's "Is There Life After Death" 2006 (Chartwell Publishing in USA and Arcturus in Europe)
Daemon Records, a record label
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Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 5:49 pm
When it comes down to it, how does this matter and why?
The english language is far past dead, and is still being butchered on a day-to-day basis, so when it all comes down to it, the only people this will effect at all are those that look at this post, which is less than what's needed to affect the entire populace of the english-speaking community(ies) therefore, in short:
Who cares?
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Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 10:31 pm
Vincent Alliath After seeing the thread "A Demon is just another word for something people fear" I realised how foolish the world is. A daemon is not something we fear. A daemon is not necessarily evil, or "Unholy". IT is a supernatural being... Angels, as much as it doesn't make sense, should actually be classed as daemons. Though "holy people" as in christians would dislike this anthology, it is true. In fact, almost everything is a daemon, if it lives and breathes, and pumps blood. To something else it is a daemon. Cobras and Mongooses are daemons to each other. Everything that has a natural enemy, sees that enemy as a daemonic plague on their own kind. I just thought I'd voice my opinion. --Vincent Alliath The guy's just voicing his opinion. =3 But in all fairness, wouldn't it be more accurate to classify Demons as Angels, albeit fallen? According to Christian belief, weren't all that are now Demons and still-loyal Angels once one and the same? Eh, I'm not about to go on a theological debate, here; but Demons, in my opinion, are the classification of Angels that have fallen from the grace of God. Daemon is synonymous- again, in my opinion-, an alteration made by those who either prefer ye olde engrish or those who try to look cool but fail miserably. There are other, more accurate, and less confusing terms to call what mongeese and cobras would consider each other if they had the intelligence we had (Which they don't. Being at the top of the food chain = win! biggrin ), such as: natural enemies, conflicting predators, and- a favorite- "ROUND 2...FIGHT!" *A few minutes later..* "FINISH HIM!...FATALITY..". Look, if you want to use Daemon, feel free. You have my express permission to bastardize the English language. And even if you didn't have my permission, the constitution of the United States has much more authority then I do. wink But I'm going to think you're talking about a Demon in an un-cool way whenever you do. So consider yourself warned fairly! twisted
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Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 10:46 pm
doglover0027 The term Daemon, dæmon, or demon has several meanings: Daemon (mythology) - supernatural beings between mortals and gods, such as inferior divinities and ghosts of dead heroes Daemon (computer software), a background process Daemon (novel), a novel by Leinad Zeraus; Dæmon (His Dark Materials) in the Philip Pullman trilogy of novels His Dark Materials Daemon (Dungeons & Dragons) is the original name for creatures now called "Yugoloths" in the game Dungeons & Dragons Daemon (Warhammer) Daemon (Warcraft) Daemon Sadi (SaDiablo) is a character in the Black Jewels Trilogy by Anne Bishop. The Dæmons is a serial in the British science fiction television series Doctor Who Daemon (Digimon) Daemon is a character in the TV series ReBoot. The BSD Daemon is the BSD operating system's mascot. Daemon is a Swedish death metal band. Daemon is a Brazilian Publisher House. Daemon / Eidolon duality is a central theme of Anthony Peake's "Is There Life After Death" 2006 (Chartwell Publishing in USA and Arcturus in Europe) Daemon Records, a record label I love you XD joking joking, I just like it when people go the xtra mile, and you monkeys out there... Take note of this post it made no derogitory (sp?) remak towards the person just simply stated what the word means in what I would believe to be every known way! XD good job so why is this thread still active? that post pretty much answered everything XD
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Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 1:16 am
when it comes down to it daemons are defined by perspective ^^
when it comes to faith then a daemon is someone who trys to take you out of gods grace.
this is why daemons are usually hence made as evil characters ^^
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Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 4:00 pm
Re: demon/daemon thing.
I don't give a s**t HOW people use it. Language is about communicating. Open your eyes and stop focusing on the small picture. It's not about the individual words. Demon/Daemon, no matter how you say it, I still know what you're talking about and thats the ONLY thing important. In real life face-to-face communication, there is no spelling.
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Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 8:47 am
Barentine Re: demon/daemon thing. I don't give a s**t HOW people use it. Language is about communicating. Open your eyes and stop focusing on the small picture. It's not about the individual words. Demon/Daemon, no matter how you say it, I still know what you're talking about and thats the ONLY thing important. In real life face-to-face communication, there is no spelling. A true linguistic anthropologist. xd
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School Of Dedicated RPers Captain
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 12:29 am
I think it's great that people have opinions about a factual piece of information. Really, it's swell. Of course, on the other hand, we could actually look at the definition of the word and realize that there is a very simple answer. But, i'm way too rude to be that simple about it. Let's have some fun with it, and dissect the word!
The following is in no way, shape, or form, opinion. This is all 100% factual information.
The original word is Daimon. It is pronounced (dī'mōn') and is Greek in origin. The Jewish took the word to describe their Shedim in the Old Testament. The Shedim were a form of idol, and as we should all know about religion, that was a bad connotation in this religion. In turn, this word was translated into Latin by Christians and became dæmon (dē'mən). (Note the pronunciation. Those of you who pronounce it with a goofy long A sound, knock it off.) Furthermore, this word was once again translated into a more appropriate form for English, becoming the ever so popular Demon. However, the residual spelling sometimes remains as Daemon, since the english language does not support the æ letter.
Based on this, one might speculate that the word means the same thing in any language, with any spelling. This is not correct. In the original Greek of the word, it simply meant one of two things; an inferior deity, or an attendant spirit. In layman's terms, that means minor gods, angels, and the classical devils we see in Christian mythology attending Lucifer himself.
Once the word was swiped for the Old Testament however, it began to take on new connotations. The Jewish certainly were using the word correctly for the original definition. However, when it was translated into Latin, discrepancies began to occur, especially as it was being used as an agent for religion, and was a descriptor for specific things. This creates an interesting condition of the word Daemon meaning several things; firstly, a god, secondly, a subordinate god, third, an attendant spirit, and fourth, one who is part god and part mortal. Due to the nature of its use in the Bible however, it picked up an extremely negative connotation from the original Greek, and was also used to describe fifthly, any supernatural evil being. It also ended up being a catch all for anything that the word 'Demon' was used to define.
Naturally, that brings me to the final word of the trio, Demon. Simply, it means an evil supernatural being, such as a devil. Also, for the record, a Devil is a subordinate evil spirit at enmity with God.
What does this all mean? It means you can use the word however you want- if you don't mind being wrong. And now for some fun with other languages! I hope your computer supports non roman letters!
Arabic: شَيْطان، عِفْريت، جِن
Chinese (Simplified): 恶魔，魔鬼
Chinese (Traditional): 惡魔，魔鬼
Czech: démon
Danish: dæmon; ond ånd
Dutch: demon
Estonian: kuri vaim
Finnish: paha henki
French: démon
German: der Dämon
Greek: δαίμονας
Hungarian: démon
Indonesian: iblis
Italian: demone
Japanese: 悪魔
Korean: 악마
Latvian: dēmons; nelabais; ļaunais gars
Lithuanian: demonas
Norwegian: demon, djevel
Polish: demon
Portuguese (Brazil): demônio
Portuguese (Portugal): demónio
Romanian: diavol; demon
Russian: демон
Slovak: démon
Slovenian: demon
Spanish: demonio
Swedish: demon
Turkish: şeytan, iblis
Any questions?
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 10:51 am
Jikial The english language is far past dead, and is still being butchered on a day-to-day basis. I disagree. A "dead language" is one that no one learns as their first language and converses in anymore. It does not change. English is spoken by many people and is very obviously changing all the time, therefore it is a "live" language. Latin is an example of a "dead" language. Being butchered... that I can't argue with.
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