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Joreph

PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 9:54 pm


I would like to address here what your vision of god is or gods if you prefer. Is it an overbearing, controlling, war mongering man with a white beard. A beautiful motherly figure opening her arms to accept you or maybe something a little different that not many people may understand. Please explain.
PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:25 am


before i post my response i would like to warn that my opinion of god is just that, an opinion. and alos that i do not think that divinity can be fully captured in words.

my opinion is that what is commonly thought of as god is in fact two separate concepts mixed up in the ignorance of the past centuries when theology has become more about words and belief than experience. the only way to know god is through experience and the absolute form permeates all things, in fact constitutes all things it is not matter but it can be found in the forms of matter. i suppose the best concept to describe it that i can think of though i dont fully understand or agree with it is the string theory which describes all things being composed of super subatomic things called strings and every one is the same but it produces the appearance of being different through bending into different shapes which produces different behavior. then to this add the quantum theory of bent space which in a way says that if you travel in a straight line from any point eventually you will end up where you started. then we find that god is the biggest sphere of being and the smallest, it is all the same yet appears otherwise.
i dont think that this is at all clear but i will continue to think about it and do my best to correct it later.

the other concept in play here is that of archetypes, a concept made known by Carl Jung. he says that in the collective unconscious there are models of being called archetypes, all god images fall in this category as well as any image of anything universal. in this realm the god concept of the Judeo-Christians is a kind of archetype for the perfect man, the perfect father, and the perfect leader. in the same vein, jesus is the archetype of the spiritual man, moses the archetype of the leader and of freedom from tyranny. this can be extended also to all gods from any culture.

well i did my best for now.
good day

AbrAbraxas
Crew


CaboCor

PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 7:25 pm


I am a simple being, dat is living in dis dark and beautiful world.....I may question God, but i am still a follower, to the Almighty God....
PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 9:27 am


I think that there is something out there beyond our comprehension... he/she/it created us and left... a mere observer or perhaps an absolute who does not meddle after giving us free will.

One thing I'm sure though, the God if such a transcendental being is to be called is not in the church or evangelic tv shows. God is found in a high degree spirituality and personal enlightenment that is seldom achieved man. emo

lilboijou


Joreph

PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 6:26 pm


de beauvoir
I think that there is something out there beyond our comprehension... he/she/it created us and left... a mere observer or perhaps an absolute who does not meddle after giving us free will.

One thing I'm sure though, the God if such a transcendental being is to be called is not in the church or evangelic tv shows. God is found in a high degree spirituality and personal enlightenment that is seldom achieved man. emo


So youre saying that youre not giving an opinion because what god is, is far beyond our spectrum of understanding, or just a being that is somewhat indifferent, or just an observer. I dont know if i completely agree with that but I do agree that god wouldnt be subject to a single religion.
PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 11:52 pm


If horses were about to start having religion their god would look like a horse. I don't remeber who said a similar thing, I have some extraordinary holes in my head xd
I used to have a vision of God, that He's an old man with long beard (yeah, I know it's very common), but if God was visible I'm sure we could have a vision of Him. But we can't have any. I personally like the idea of mixing God with Nature, but if God is only nature that would be a bit humiliating for God... It's a hard thing to think about.

Raticiel


AbrAbraxas
Crew

PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 9:11 am


Raticiel
If horses were about to start having religion their god would look like a horse. I don't remeber who said a similar thing, I have some extraordinary holes in my head xd
I used to have a vision of God, that He's an old man with long beard (yeah, I know it's very common), but if God was visible I'm sure we could have a vision of Him. But we can't have any. I personally like the idea of mixing God with Nature, but if God is only nature that would be a bit humiliating for God... It's a hard thing to think about.


language is not always a simple thing, especially when we start to talk about subtle things. a vision is not always a visual thing. when someone says i have a vision of the future it doesnt mean that they precisely have a picture in thier head, but that they "see" in conceptual terms something which is not or is not yet real. a vision of god does not have to be specifically an image. funny though because as a child the only description of god was similar to the one to described, beard and stuff. i never believed in that andi assumed that i did not beleive in god. through my developement however i came to understand that the people who perpetuate such images are either misguided in trying to explain the inexplicable or have no idea or conscious relationship with god. to say that i have seen god to me seems a misnomer, i have expereinced god, and can words capture that? no. can images capture that? no.
it is one ofthose things, which you have to know foryourself and you cannot find without seeking without expectation, for expectations will make you blind to the simple and profound nature of reality.
good day
PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 6:10 pm


The way I see it (if my view of the holy spirit is wrong, lemme know)

In terms that a Christian could understand, I believe in the holy spirit part of the holy trinity. The holy spirit is the spiritual energy that resides in every person, it has also been described as one's soul. It connects and binds us all. And I have writer's block at the moment. Sorry... ^.^;;

H20edDownAzn


Pifflestick

PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 5:12 pm


My vision of God is a bright light that when looked into you see the very essence of all that is good and pure and beautiful. The reason that God sends angels to talk to people is because if a living being sees it his eyes will burn out.
PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 6:23 am


Pifflestick
My vision of God is a bright light that when looked into you see the very essence of all that is good and pure and beautiful. The reason that God sends angels to talk to people is because if a living being sees it his eyes will burn out.


unless you have some good sunglasses

AbrAbraxas
Crew


Haloquine

PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 5:35 pm


My image of God... as an overarching-foundation-of-everything kinda thing, is pretty much the Light of the World. Its the glow in everything, the pure joy and awe you sometimes feel when you touch something. Its the life that underlies everything, from the first bluebell of spring, to the frosts that devour it, to the movement of the earth that splits the ground, to the spinning of the stars. Its the life behind love and joy, and everything else. Including fear, anger and violence... there is still life/God in these things, but to me these are unhealthy/warped manifestations of it. I often anthropomorphically represent thisforce-of-life to myself as 'God Herself'.

I do, however, believe in Gods. Being pluralistically Pagan, I believe in many beings that are bigger and know more than us - they have a different perspective, you see, and more time. But these deities aren't what I think you are getting at in the first post.

'God' would be Being, as opposed to beings. The Christian god, to me, is just another being, another deity.
PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 6:12 am


Haloquine
I often anthropomorphically represent thisforce-of-life to myself as 'God Herself'.


thats good, i do the same thing, but i often refer to 'the spirit' which can be either the individual spirit within each thing, or 'the Spirit' to refer to the spirit in it's oneness permeating all things.
which from one perspective could be seen as the same thing.

AbrAbraxas
Crew


Eva_Fan-Patt

PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 10:04 pm


my views are very very vague.

something out there created us. shy when and all the specifics are unknown. only thing know is that it was something. after all how else would we be here.

ya that is all i got sadly. kinda stupid but hey it is what i believe
PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 4:32 am


'god' to me is a concept. I dont feel there is an actual all powerful being out there separate from everything else that exists and has always existed. to me the word 'god' represents the forces that caused the universe to come together, the force of nature that has caused everything to come into being. this encompasses more than just nature as it is viewed on this planet, but the formation of stars and galaxies. and in my thoughts on it, when I wonder why we are here (anything and everything, not just mankind), the thought comes to mind that maybe we are the divines means of consciousness. because we and everything in existence is intrinsically part of nature and the universe as a whole, it is how it experiences itself.

Calypsophia


AbrAbraxas
Crew

PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 12:06 pm


AbrAbraxas
Haloquine
I often anthropomorphically represent thisforce-of-life to myself as 'God Herself'.


thats good, i do the same thing, but i often refer to 'the spirit' which can be either the individual spirit within each thing, or 'the Spirit' to refer to the spirit in it's oneness permeating all things.
which from one perspective could be seen as the same thing.


thinking about this the other day i had a thought which can define this a little better.
the spirit is active.
the source is eternal.
the self is an event between the two.

each is equal the others, each is one and together they are one also equal to each part.
this is the trinity of many beliefs.
father, child, mother.
father, son, holy spirit.
source, self, spirit.

i dont know if this makes sense to anyone else.
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